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That "doppelganger" idea has been suggested here for quite a while - some sort of creature that can copy your powers, and possibly even your look too.

It'd be awesome as an invasion event too - duplicates of every Hero in the zone start attacking NPCs and real Heroes - it'd be madness on the streets


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It is worth noting that a Nemesis system was first suggested by Positron before the Dev team got slashed to 15 developers, and that Jack told him to work on something else.
Forgot that bit. Thank you for reminding me.

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Champions online may have "higher end" graphics, based upon the fact that their minimum specs are about the same as those required for Ultra Mode. On the other hand, having experienced those graphics first hand, I have to say that "higher end" does not mean "better." In my opinion, City of Heroes looks better than Champions, right now. Ultra Mode will push us over the top and way beyond CO.
I was very careful when I said "Higher end" instead of "Better" for this exact reason. Ultra Mode holds nothing for me, personally, as I have a low end computer and prefer City of Heros' graphics. That being said, I'm happy for those affording a better computer.

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Still, the fact that CO is in the market is a good thing, as it accelerates us getting things that might have been lower on the priority list, like emote stances.
Kind of my point. I suspect the priority list was rearranged a bit from Champions Online, though I may never receive official confirmation either way.

Whether we're running the race against Champions or for our own Time Trial, we're still lookin' great!


 

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I'm really not sure what I think of Epic Archetype at level 20 thing. That really seems to needlessly cheapen it in my mind, especially given all the recent changes to make leveling easier.
Actually doesn't really surprise me, as they've said more than once that they thought lvl 50 to unlock the epic archtype was a mistake, and that they only did it for the VEATs for parity's sake.


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Ahem.

ZOMGOMGOMOGMGOMGOMGOMG WHEEEEEEEE!

That is all.

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Ok, not quite all. The announcement page said:

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You have the opportunity to get access to the Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning power sets in March and April, if you pre purchase City of Heroes Going Rogue (MSRP $29.99 USD)!
But right after that, it said:

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You will also be able to get your hands on an exclusive item pack if you get the City of Heroes Going Rogue: Complete Collection (MSRP $39.99 USD), that will be available when Going Rogue releases in July!
Sooooo, my question is, what if you want to get the pistols/demon summoning early, but want the item pack too? Will you have to preorder GR for 30$ and then *also* buy the complete collection for 40$, or will you be able to preorder the complete collection? Because, while I definitely would love to get dual pistols/demon summoning early, there's no way I'm buying going rogue twice for the privilege. In a contest between getting pistols/demon summoning early and getting the costumes/etc permanently, the preorder option would definitely lose, which is annoying because this is one product which I'd *definitely* like to show my support for by preordering.


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Issue 17

Qualitative Opinion Requested: Them Apples
Oh, and this is pure gold. I'm sitting in the math department lounge waiting for my class to start, and now everyone is looking at me funny because I burst out laughing when I read that.


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Definitely looking forward to this new issue. I really would like to see what the new UI improvements are (hopefully the glowie/last hostage/last mob showing up on the map is in it as well as more stuff like it).

A Nemesis system is interesting....although sounds like a Nemesis plot to me...


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From the front page article:



Emphasis mine...
I think this is the first time we've (I've, anyways) seen an actual release-ish date. Bonus on getting the power sets a little early as well...
Wait....does that mean we get access to them on test early, or...
Gods damn NO, don't get me excited by this stuff! Thats not fair!! >_<

I'm going to assume it's on test, until confirmed. I Only just replaced my cerebral core after that first announcement...


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By thew way, how much is NCSoft charging for this content update?
Issue 17 is free, as always. Going Rogue is $30 or $40, depending on which version you get.

Yes I know this is poking fun at CO, but still...


 

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I think this is the first time we've (I've, anyways) seen an actual release-ish date. Bonus on getting the power sets a little early as well...
Yes, the July target date is "new." From the banter here, it seems many thought it would hit test in Jan/Feb and be out April or May-ish (just from the idea that Beta would be "soon"). While July doesn't surprise me as the target, it is later than I had expected.


 

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Kind of my point. I suspect the priority list was rearranged a bit from Champions Online, though I may never receive official confirmation either way.
And the Vibora Pay announcement was just nice timing


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By thew way, how much is NCSoft charging for this content update?
Burn!


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Oh and I think I should do my taxes now...maybe get a nice big refund and put some money aside for pre-order (and maybe...just maybe a new PC?)


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Ahem.

ZOMGOMGOMOGMGOMGOMGOMG WHEEEEEEEE!

That is all.



Ok, not quite all. The announcement page said:



But right after that, it said:



Sooooo, my question is, what if you want to get the pistols/demon summoning early, but want the item pack too? Will you have to preorder GR for 30$ and then *also* buy the complete collection for 40$, or will you be able to preorder the complete collection? Because, while I definitely would love to get dual pistols/demon summoning early, there's no way I'm buying going rogue twice for the privilege. In a contest between getting pistols/demon summoning early and getting the costumes/etc permanently, the preorder option would definitely lose, which is annoying because this is one product which I'd *definitely* like to show my support for by preordering.




Oh, and this is pure gold. I'm sitting in the math department lounge waiting for my class to start, and now everyone is looking at me funny because I burst out laughing when I read that.
I would guess, given what it is, The Complete edition is like the Pre-order, and then some.
It's still a pre-order...so. Yeah.

I wonder if they mean you get the power sets early on Live? I just...that would blow my mind. Again.


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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That "doppelganger" idea has been suggested here for quite a while - some sort of creature that can copy your powers, and possibly even your look too.

It'äd be awesome as an invasion event too - duplicates of every Hero in the zone start attacking NPCs and real Heroes - it'd be madness on the streets
I've been seeing people make that suggestion here for years.
The Devs may have even been working on something like that for years as well.
But I still believe that the existence of CO's Nemesis system has now actually made the "doppelganger" idea a viable priority here.
Once again I'll say I love competition, especially against an inferior game that we can cherry-pick the few good ideas they've come up with.


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I wonder if Cryptic is going to scramble and try to save some grace with CO, or if they've just given up on it now that their real cash cow is released...


 

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Yes, the July target date is "new." From the banter here, it seems many thought it would hit test in Jan/Feb and be out April or May-ish (just from the idea that Beta would be "soon"). While July doesn't surprise me as the target, it is later than I had expected.

Agreed. A bit later than expected (to me at least) but looking at what we get with Issue 17....it's not bad...it seems like I17 will be on test 'soon' and then by the time it's released probably closed beta of GR will start a few weeks after that (would have to give it a few weeks just to make sure all the kinks/major bugs are worked out).

Fine by me


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I wonder if Cryptic is going to scramble and try to save some grace with CO, or if they've just given up on it now that their real cash cow is released...
CO...Cryptic...Grace...
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Yes, the July target date is "new." From the banter here, it seems many thought it would hit test in Jan/Feb and be out April or May-ish (just from the idea that Beta would be "soon"). While July doesn't surprise me as the target, it is later than I had expected.
I was thinking February/March beta, with a May/June release - but maybe they need the extra month to make sure it's extra awesome?
But if enough of us complained about it, we could maybe get them to release it early so we could experience the excitement of bugged content


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*slap*
Get married first, fool! RL>(RP)>XP
Remove the brackets if they do not apply.

Well, what am I supposed to do while she is getting all prettied up the day of. . . I mean really, 4 hours in the salon before the wedding. God made me goofy looking and I take about 5 minutes to get ready.

That leaves 3 hours and 55 minutes to play! I will just have to set my alarm.

HA!


 

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I've been seeing people make that suggestion here for years.
The Devs may have even been working on something like that for years as well.
But I still believe that the existence of CO's Nemesis system has now actually made the "doppelganger" idea a viable priority here.
Once again I'll say I love competition, especially against an inferior game that we can cherry-pick the few good ideas they've come up with.

As one of the people who called this, I think it's great that it comes to fluition. Now I eagerly await DYNAMIC CONTENT (tm)!


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I've been seeing people make that suggestion here for years.
The Devs may have even been working on something like that for years as well.
But I still believe that the existence of CO's Nemesis system has now actually made the "doppelganger" idea a viable priority here.
Once again I'll say I love competition, especially against an inferior game that we can cherry-pick the few good ideas they've come up with.
I htink it's a fairly safe bet to say you're right. A lot of "eventually, maybe, possibly" stuff that ended up on the back burner (or the back of the chrisper drawer in the fridge next to a fluffy green blob that might have once been a carrot) went back on the menu with Champs announced and a fresh fire lit under it when Champs launched. The CoH Devs are basically competing with another group of Devs who has access to exactly the same ideas that were htought up before the NCSoft buyout. From there it was just a race to see who could get what done faster and who could get what done better when it came to that idea pool.


 

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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...27#post2600427

Whoa what what? Why do I have to have a job!? WHYYYY!?!?!

Snacks and accout fees?


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I wonder if Cryptic is going to scramble and try to save some grace with CO, or if they've just given up on it now that their real cash cow is released...
They have another "state of the game address" coming up this week - if they're sensible, they'll say they've listened to the player feedback, and have decided that Vibora Bay will be a free update.
Or they could possibly say that the zone and missions will be free, but any extras planned for it like costumes and powers would still be paid-for items.


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