Moving SGs to diffrent servers


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I think it was very cool that you guys offered free server transfers at the holidays, but you took some of our lesser used servers and made them even lesser used. I have been playing on Victory for over 2 years now. I have a very Nice big base that I have worked on and gotten it up to 45 in the top 100 which i have to say is not easy for an ALL MM SG... Now why is it I would want to move to a diffrent server leaving behind all the prestige I have earned and the base I have created just to go to a more populated server and have to start over. You guys should try to figure out a way so that our SGs and Prestige can move along with us. It is not fair to some of who have devoted our time to the SGs giving out things having countess contests just to have to give it all up. Not to mention the extra slots i purchased for this server.


 

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I have 8 sg/vg's on 4 different servers,I use them to bounce around to those said servers because I have a host of friends.

Moving sg's to other servers sounds disasterous on a few levels,one I coundn't imagine what it would take to do that.Secondly what about the established sg's on those other servers that have spent their time to get on the top 100?

My suggestion to you make another sg/vg on another server,it's fun at least it is for me or use your global channels,searches,post on the forums to find more people on your server so you don't "feel" like you need to leave.


 

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Who says you have to move? I play on Victory only, always have, always will. I find the server no more or less busy than it always has been. A lot of the people in my Coalition and the global channes I use refuse to jump servers. Over the last week, I've found myself cursing out loud because the TFs I need are forming constantly, but since we just moved and still have a lot of work to do, I can never get on them.

Heck, I did a Posi TF in the middle of the morning on Wednesday last week, thinking I'd be lucky to get the three to start it at that time of day. By the time one of the people who responded had switched characters, there was a small crowd around Posi. We started 10 minutes after I announced it, with a team of 7.

To turn around your question, if I were in your Supergroup, why should you have the right to take all the prestige I helped earn and the base I helped pay for to a different server than the one I choose to play on?


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It's not gonna be a disaster... even if they couldn't move the whole base they could move the name and the prestige the SG has to the other server, and I don't wanna leave Victory. The other SGs on that server would only be hurt if they have less prestige than the SGs that join the Server and MY SG would probly not be in the top 100 on a server like Virtue or Freedom. We do recruit regularly. I find it a lil harder to find SF teams.. We used to have to put 2 teams together cause we had so many people wanting to join on SFs but now we gotta run around just to get 1 team. that was just my thought on the free server transfers it's like they were encouraging people to move. That doesn't help the slower servers.


 

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The problem with moving an SG is who decides, or so it seems to me.

The supreme leader wants to move, some or all of the members do not. Who decides?
Everybody but one member wants to move? Who decides?

Prestige belongs to the SG, earned by all the members. The system has never had a means of giving individual characters "their" prestige if they leave an SG. Well and good. And leaders can milk members for prestige and kick them when they get tired of them. Not a great model but certainly feasible under the rules/program, and with no viable comeback for the members that I ever heard of, other than word of mouth to warn other players about the leader's unpleasant management style.

But in this case, and I must note you were the one who introduced the F-word ("fair") to the discussion, is it fair to let the leader abscond to another server leaving all the members who put prestige into the SG with bupkis?

The sideshow about top SG ratings doesn't really speak to me (but then, I don't join SGs as a general thing). I am more interested in SGs as vehicles for all their members to have a good time rather than as monuments to the leadership.


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that was just my thought on the free server transfers it's like they were encouraging people to move. That doesn't help the slower servers.
The servers are machines. Many PLAYERS wanted to move characters around and were given the opportunity to do it at no cost. Move or don't, but it's your choice. A choice that can be made without incurring any expense, at the moment.


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It's not gonna be a disaster... even if they couldn't move the whole base they could move the name and the prestige the SG has to the other server.
Issues : Names - they would have to work in a system to deal with names like they did for character transfers.

Ownership : Who actually owns an SG? Hmm? This right here is the biggest reason why no SG transfers.


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Ownership : Who actually owns an SG? Hmm? This right here is the biggest reason why no SG transfers.
A few issues back they added a 6th rank that can only be held by one person at a time. As far as support and the game engine cares the person holding that rank is the owner.



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To copy the tone of Rod's post:

Why would you want to leave Victory in the first place? We're awesome.


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Here I can lay this to rest right now.

It's not going to happen,it's a bad idea and a waste of time for the devs.Too much time and money,when the op can just make some friends and get on the global/search channels to find teammates.


 

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Don't move SG... Make it cross-server. Problem solved.


 

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Don't move SG... Make it cross-server. Problem solved.
This ^ my friends restarted our old SG over again on Freedom so now we have an sg/vg on Justice and freedom. The more privet one I am in is on 3 servers now.



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This ^ my friends restarted our old SG over again on Freedom so now we have an sg/vg on Justice and freedom. The more privet one I am in is on 3 servers now.
I think, you missed my point. I didn't suggest to recreate SG with the same name. I wanted devs make SG global and accessible from every server.


 

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making sg's global would be a nice way to increase your sg rep between servers, instead of having top 100 lists for each server, they would consolidate into 1 list.

on the other hand, im one of those who would never leave victory, so it would be kind of pointless to implement something as that.


 

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I think, you missed my point. I didn't suggest to recreate SG with the same name. I wanted devs make SG global and accessible from every server.
Ohh that would be nice but wouldn't you still run into the conflicting name's problem everyone complains about?



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Ohh that would be nice but wouldn't you still run into the conflicting name's problem everyone complains about?
So... just join their SG instead of making a new one?


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Moving SGs to diffrent servers
Moving an SG's what?

Hey.... wait-a-minute... you used an apostrophe (or lack thereof) CORRECTLY????

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Seriously though, I wish more people would do things like this... the grammar, not the SG stuff.


 

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Ohh that would be nice but wouldn't you still run into the conflicting name's problem everyone complains about?
For me personally, it will be the least of concerns But I'll give you that: many people are probably attached to their SG name, and would be extremely PO'd if they would have to change it.


 

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I love the Idea of making SGs Global.... That makes the most sense and I am not sure how anyone else would do the choosing on weather an SG moves or Not... For me we have a group of leaders who meet and make those desicions together, and it wouldn't be too hard if an SG moved to let the SG members know and if they want to come they can transfer too.

BTW... Don't wanna leave VICTORY!!! Been here probly almost 3 years.


 

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Here I can lay this to rest right now.

It's not going to happen,it's a bad idea and a waste of time for the devs.Too much time and money,when the op can just make some friends and get on the global/search channels to find teammates.
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I guess your under the impression that we do not pay for this game,and the devs should dismiss the idea all together.IT IS NOT A WASTE OF TIME OR A BAD IDEA to make paying customers happy with thier gaming expierence,WHY exactly should people have to start over or join another SG with a game headed towards a server MERGE?what the hell do you think the free transfers were all about?The devs won't say that,but thats what free server transfers reeks of.I don't know about you,but ALOT of work goes into a SG to make the top 100 on any server.Some people would not like to throw that all away,just cause people left the server for more populated servers,or because of a server merge.


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Here I can lay this to rest right now.

It's not going to happen,it's a bad idea and a waste of time for the devs.Too much time and money,when the op can just make some friends and get on the global/search channels to find teammates.
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I guess your under the impression that we do not pay for this game,and the devs should dismiss the idea all together.IT IS NOT A WASTE OF TIME OR A BAD IDEA to make paying customers happy with thier gaming expierence,WHY exactly should people have to start over or join another SG with a game headed towards a server MERGE?what the hell do you think the free transfers were all about?The devs won't say that,but thats what free server transfers reeks of.I don't know about you,but ALOT of work goes into a SG to make the top 100 on any server.Some people would not like to throw that all away,just cause people left the server for more populated servers,or because of a server merge.
It has already been stated that the free transfers were a gift for the holidays.

Duh,did you read the part of my post that stated that I have multiple sg/vg's?So yes I do know what goes into making a successful sg/vg.

As stated in the second part of my post the op needs to learn the global channels/searches/etc in addition several people have posted in this thread who are on that server.Hence the op can get their globals and voila new teammmates!

As far as your reeking of this and that is concerned you spout conjecture,save your doom posts for the conspiracy forums.kthnxbai


 

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Ohh that would be nice but wouldn't you still run into the conflicting name's problem everyone complains about?
Not if your SGs/VGs all have dumb names like the ones I'm in. If global SGs/VGs lead to SG/VG rename tokens, I would be in favor of it soley for that reason, let alone all the other good ones.


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To turn around your question, if I were in your Supergroup, why should you have the right to take all the prestige I helped earn and the base I helped pay for to a different server than the one I choose to play on?

Well if you want to have sole decision making on an SG you should start one of your own, but as for me the reason I am even talking about this is because a decent amount of people in my Coal have come to me and said... What do you think about switching Servers... I do pass pretty much everything i do with my SG past my members. I mean if I wasn't a decent leader in the SG then people wouldn't stay in it as long as they have. The problem is even when a majority of the SG are interested in moving you have to throw everything you earned away.


 

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It has already been stated that the free transfers were a gift for the holidays.

Duh,did you read the part of my post that stated that I have multiple sg/vg's?So yes I do know what goes into making a successful sg/vg.

As stated in the second part of my post the op needs to learn the global channels/searches/etc in addition several people have posted in this thread who are on that server.Hence the op can get their globals and voila new teammmates!

As far as your reeking of this and that is concerned you spout conjecture,save your doom posts for the conspiracy forums.kthnxbai
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Here I can lay this rest here and now.(lol,now that statement really reeks.)

yes,you can believe that the transfers were a gift for the holidays pal,I DO NOT.I don't have a problem with friends or teams,but alot of other people do on lesser populated servers,but thanks for your amazing advice on the matter.I'm sure we are all very thankful for your global channel/search/forums/etc. tutorial.

DUh???? How many of your SG's are top 20 on whatever server?

Doom post? its just realistic!I have checked the other servers at peak times and at off times,the numbers are way down.I don't think a merge of servers is out of the Question,nor do I think the GIFT of free server transfers,helps lesser populated servers.The players and their Sgs,teams,etc suffer for it ,which is the reason for the entire topic.

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Originally Posted by Pimpstress_Bambi View Post
I think it was very cool that you guys offered free server transfers at the holidays, but you took some of our lesser used servers and made them even lesser used.
Prove it. Not "I think" or "I did a search once," get the numbers from one of the devs and post it. Because other than that, you're guessing.

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I have been playing on Victory for over 2 years now. I have a very Nice big base that I have worked on and gotten it up to 45 in the top 100 which i have to say is not easy for an ALL MM SG...
So MMs have a hard time earning prestige? Which is all the "top 100" means - a rather worthless measure, frankly. After you buy the biggest plot and fill it with all the crap you can, then what? I'd much rather have an SG I enjoy being in - whether it has a tiny base or is #1 on the server is irrelevant if it's not *fun.*

A SG made up around one of the *most durable, hard hitting ATs* has problems earning prestige.

Yeah, you'll excuse me if I find that a bit hard to believe.

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Now why is it I would want to move to a diffrent server leaving behind all the prestige I have earned and the base I have created just to go to a more populated server and have to start over. You guys should try to figure out a way so that our SGs and Prestige can move along with us. It is not fair to some of who have devoted our time to the SGs giving out things having countess contests just to have to give it all up. Not to mention the extra slots i purchased for this server.
And for the people that don't want to move? Why should they lose out on their work? Who controls the movement? What about all the personal items put into the base? What if 1/3 want to move (for some ungodly reason) to Freedom, 1/3 want to stay where they are, and 1/3 want to move to (say) Guardian? What if others don't have the slots available there?

Bad idea. And no, nothing pointing toward a server merge (another bad idea, unless the dev team feels like losing many subscriptions and being unemployed soon,) despite the other tinfoil hat post. (Edit, noticed it was another person after.) Oh, btw... some people moved OFF the higher servers to the lower, or between lower pop servers, which certainly didn't hurt them.