Bases are outdated


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I need to +1 this thread before it's gone.

I see your +1 and raise you another +1.


 

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*snerk* My friend pointed me at this thread. I have to admit I was morbidly curious when I noticed the OP had 2 bubbles of red, so I read on. After seeing some posts I found out why. And at some point added some more -rep for our good friend. I believe for the post where he called everyone a moron, or maybe the one where he said we all have a 5th grade education.

With that in mind, I push on with full sarcasm:

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Noone really uses the bases anymore.
The VG I'm in has:
* 6 inspiration bins that I stock regularly for people of all levels; one is entirely special inspirations (EoE, presents)
* 6 salvage bins which are usually full but get used frequently; one is entirely rare salvage
* 3 enhancement bins; I recently added over 100 level 25 IOs for lowbies
* Invention table
* A vault
* Teleporters to every zone

It's even an RP base, and we still get use out of it constantly. There's always at least one person hanging out there, and RP is frequent. Our coalition has like a million people in it (I get a full page every time I click a portal). And our base has cool stuff in it. Sometimes coalition people even drop in to check out our base design. Heck, I even have screens of our base designer's Christmas tree (with ornaments), presents, and stockings over the fireplace that they just added.

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Aww it's good and fun to see if you can make the best and most clever base you can....but ultimatly it's useless.
It's only useless if you don't use it for the dozens of things you can use bases for. Many of those functions are either crazy-convenient or even not possible anywhere else.

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You can't do base raids, the TP's in the base is rather outdated since you can get everyone with ourobus, wentworth tp, mission tp, and trains. Really, why have tp'er in a base when everyone uses Ourobus to TP where they need to go most of the time.
Technically you can get everywhere by walking, so there's no need to have Ouroboros, Wentworth, mission TP, or trains. Right?

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I've asked alot of people on the freedom server, and they all say there is really no need to have a base.
Freedom is called Freedumb for a reason. ZING! Classic Freedom response is still valid even after all these years!

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Your question isn't obvious, because this is a tacked-on afterthought of a "question." If this qualified, pretty much every thread on the forums would fall under this section. Question section is for things like "I have a base but I don't know what the point is. What all can you do with a base?" Not "You're all morons and nobody uses bases. Agree?"

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Out of the one person I spoke to, we both agreed that you're actually a chimpanzee typing hamfistedly on a computer, who is translating what he hears a parrot repeat. The parrot heard someone say, one time, "Nobody I know uses a base," and then proceeded to repeat it ad nauseum.

Since 100% of the people I spoke with (1 out of 1) concluded this, it's probably true. Follow-up question: Thoughts?

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Good advice. Have you considered taking this yourself? From your post history so far, you're often overly-aggressive, prone to fake fact-sputtering, and just barely over the illiteracy line. Including this post where you offer a broad insult of moron while using the wrong form of your/you're.

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Dude, read what I wrote just above your post. If you had...you would realize that....(again having to make myself even clearer for the stupid people)....OUT OF THE PEOPLE I HAVE SPOKEN TO noone really uses the bases anymore...
Out of the people I have spoken to, EVERYONE uses bases! Do my resources trump yours, or do we need to battle to the death first?

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Had you read the previous post, your post wouldn't exist.
Had you read the forum description, your post wouldn't exist.

There, I'm all sarcasmed out. Carry on!


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MLEdelen needs to organize his wonderful insights into a more digestible form like a blog or newsletter that we can subscribe to. This guy has serious potential and could completely change the game.

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Wow....just wow.

OP you're absolutely right. Bases are completely useless and sould be abolished from the game altogether. I mean, look at all that stuff that you can do so much easier elsewhere!





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It's even an RP base, and we still get use out of it constantly. There's always at least one person hanging out there, and RP is frequent. Our coalition has like a million people in it (I get a full page every time I click a portal). And our base has cool stuff in it. Sometimes coalition people even drop in to check out our base design. Heck, I even have screens of our base designer's Christmas tree (with ornaments), presents, and stockings over the fireplace that they just added.
Exactly.. I am left wondering if the OP has been on any server except Freedom. It seems obvious that he has never set foot on Virtue where bases are used to their fullest extent (crafting/storage, buffs, travel shortcuts, RPing, etc..).


 

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Originally Posted by MLEdelen View Post
Noone really uses the bases anymore.


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Aww it's good and fun to see if you can make the best and most clever base you can....but ultimatly it's useless.
No. Sorry, but bases are still very VERY useful.

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You can't do base raids
Ah, an LOLPVPer.

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the TP's in the base is rather outdated since you can get everyone with ourobus, wentworth tp, mission tp, and trains.
Okay, take a level 1 character and get them to Peregrine Island, or Eden faster than a base teleporter.

Try getting someone to Faultline faster than the base teleporter. Even if you havethe Pocket D VIP pass, it's still faster with a base.

Sorry, but you're incorrect.

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Really, why have tp'er in a base when everyone uses Ourobus to TP where they need to go most of the time.
Because not everyone is playing a toon above level 25.

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I've asked alot of people on the freedom server, and they all say there is really no need to have a base.
How many is "a lot"? And how do you know the people you talked to weren't idiots?

And did you consult people who weren't PL'ing on one of the most populous servers?

Also! I'm going to assume this was blue-side. Did you ask people red-side?

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That is my opinion
If it was your opinion, why did you ask other people then bring up their opinions as if to support yours?

*Suggestions on alterations to make base transits more "valuable". DE-LETED!*

No. Sorry. Don't start farting with travel in the game please.



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Because, of course, nobody plays on any server but Freedom.

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No. Sorry, you used it as an absolute. Right there you should have known you were wrong from the get-go.

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Disagreeing with you and questioning your statements is not "bashing you".

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Good advice. Please follow it yourself.



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Leblanc, It's the idiots out there that try to flame a post which makes posting opinions on the boards a bad idea.
If you're not ready for opposition to your opinions, you probably shouldn't be posting.

If you can't defend your position with more than "someone told me this once..I think", you probably shouldn't be posting.

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This is a forum, a place to voice your opinions and find out what others think about the topic.
And that's EXACTLY what you got. Others let you know what they thought. All you did was troll them because they didn't yes-man you. Was it fun?

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That is what the boards are for, information and conversation.
But only if they don't disagree with you, right?

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But if someone has an opinion that is different than others, or a question that is unknown to the original poster but someone thinks it's so easy....thats when the flame starts instead of people just posting with common sense and civility.
Disagreeing with you, even snarkily, isn't a flame. Grow some thicker skin before posting again please.



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Noone really uses the bases anymore. Aww it's good and fun to see if you can make the best and most clever base you can....but ultimatly it's useless.
How could something that is fun be useless in a game designed for having fun?


 

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i'm sorry, but out of a possible score of 20 pts. Per post, your op got an f.



perhaps if you were to do some corrections on your original work, you may not have to retake posting 101.
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Do you want the HONEST answer? Or are you just looking for a nice palatable one?

Warning!: Most people are looking for the latter, while a giant percentage of the minority saying they want the former are still looking for the latter.



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And take a look as the bases section of the forum before you claim nobody uses them any more.

You may not, but many people get a great deal of enjoyment and utility out of them.
^ I pulled a face like this guys user-pic.
Bases ARE outadated...because they haven't recieved any TLC for too long. The editor is starting to show it's age, the item limit is starting to actually matter, and be a hinderance, the tech sections STILL have far fewer items than the Arcane sections do (Annoyance: Much) and...yeah. Bases need some updating.

But speak for yourself when you say people dont use them. A lot of people on Union and other servers disagree with you.


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That is my opinion and I know some might disagree, but really.... If they want the bases to be used more...I have an idea. Why not make the portal in ourobus...instead of giving you a choice of zones to go to.....just make it take you back to the zone you were just in last. If you remove the capability to use ourobus as a TP hub, they would have to use the base tp'ers again...and it might get peoples interest back into the bases more.
Wow...just...wow. How long did you think about this idea before you posted it, out of curiosity? Nerf Ouro portals to make up for your perceived lack in bases. Um, no. Just no. Bases do need more functionality in some things, but I love my base dearly and use it frequently...teleporters included. If you want someone to use something more, you don't do it by limiting their choices in other areas. You make the thing you're having problems with more appealing.

Not to mention the fact that your idea would severely limit travel options for people that don't have access to a base. Not everyone wants to join an SG, or go through the work to make a private SG base viable. Which is just fine...that's their choice, and shouldn't be taken away from them.

You want others to think before they post? It may be a good idea if you do so first.



 

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I use my base for all of the things listed above

storage for tier two and three inspos, enhancements, salvage
creating temporary powers
doing the Silver Mantis SF
Ouro mishes
travelling
and occasionally I enjoy editing it.

Obviously YMMV


 

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^ I pulled a face like this guys user-pic.
Bases ARE outadated...because they haven't recieved any TLC for too long. The editor is starting to show it's age, the item limit is starting to actually matter, and be a hinderance, the tech sections STILL have far fewer items than the Arcane sections do (Annoyance: Much) and...yeah. Bases need some updating.
*nod* Give us some tech walkways already. Building everything out of desks is getting old. (And I still want an explanation as to why the copper alembic tank is 5000 prestige, but the steel alembic tank is 100 prestige...)


 

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*nod* Give us some tech walkways already. Building everything out of desks is getting old. (And I still want an explanation as to why the copper alembic tank is 5000 prestige, but the steel alembic tank is 100 prestige...)
1. I'd settle for getting that white floor tilw next to the safe reskinned with a top and bottom.

2. Because copper has more salvage value when you recycle it silly. Steel is cheap, and often is left to rust.


 

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Well if you are in a small SG or red side I can understand why the OP doesn't think the travel ability of bases are all that great. With Pocket D, Ouroboros, Vangard and Midnighter's Club (blue side) the main zones are pretty well covered.

Also if the OP may not have been here when the trams blue side didn't hit FF or Skyway or you had lots of missions in the various hazard zones that are only accessible if you traveled there on "foot" making a base TP a godsend.

Of course the other big bonus from bases are the crafting of enhancements or empowerment buffs and time travel access, again found more often in large SG bases.

So I can understand that if he's never seen what a fully functioning base can provide that he may underestimate it's worth.


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1. I'd settle for getting that white floor tilw next to the safe reskinned with a top and bottom.

2. Because copper has more salvage value when you recycle it silly. Steel is cheap, and often is left to rust.
Aha! Trick question!

You see, there's also the large copper lab tank and the large steel lab tank which cost exactly the same amount of prestige (1000), but then, to confuse things even further, there's the small steel lab tank (5000 prestige) and the small copper lab tank (100 prestige). I think someone got loopy with the amounts of Prestige some of these decorative items cost....

And yeah, reskinning the floor tile would solve some problems, but I wouldn't mind seeing it in a couple other shapes and sizes if they did that.


 

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I'd personally like to see more functionality added to bases. That being said, there is a fair amount of functionality already there.


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