Nemesis Staff temporary power


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paragon wiki states:

How to Get

To obtain this temporary power, heroes have to complete the Find out who's supplying the Freakshow with the new weapons mission assigned by Tina Chung or Neal Kendrick for levels 30-34.

Now I just did 2 different arcs for Neal. The freakshow war and stopping the pact But never gave this mission and I don't see it anywhere on the ouroboros list. Tina Chung doesn't appear to be available as a contact to me since I'm Natural origin and it lists her as a technology origin contact. Is this correct?

So how exactly do I get this temporary power without the vet badge? I recall doing the mission to get this temp power before.


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Yes but how do I get that mission? I did 2 arcs for him and I don't see anything else in ouroboros to do for him. Do I have to do both arcs again?


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It's a single mission, and you have to make sure you are past the level range the mission is (not sure if you are or not, but sometimes that's the sticky wicket for people). So if it's in the 35-40 range, I think you have to be 41 to see those missions in Oro (or it's 40, can't recall off the top of my head).


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Ouroboros only offers story arcs and badge missions. Ouroboros does not offer one-off missions unless they are also badge missions.

Sorry, if you're doing this through Ouro, you're SOL.


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The way that I understood is that you can earn powers like this multiple times using ouroboros and the powers duration is cut in half each time you earn it, so how do you earn it again in the first place if its not there at all? I'm lost. Guess I'll try looking for it again at 41.


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If the power is available in a story arc or a badge mission, that is true, because you can repeat those.

If the power is available only in a one-off mission, it is not true, because Ouroboros does not offer one-off missions.


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The way that I understood is that you can earn powers like this multiple times using ouroboros and the powers duration is cut in half each time you earn it, so how do you earn it again in the first place if its not there at all? I'm lost. Guess I'll try looking for it again at 41.
Not all temps are re-earnable through Ouro, as Aggie said.

And the duration isn't cut in half on re-earned powers, necessarily. Some powers have "echos" that awarded after the first time you earn the power instead.

list of temp powers, including which ones are Ouro-obtainable and which of those give "echos"

The Nemesis Staff is not listed as a re-obtainable.


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The way that I understood is that you can earn powers like this multiple times using ouroboros and the powers duration is cut in half each time you earn it, so how do you earn it again in the first place if its not there at all? I'm lost. Guess I'll try looking for it again at 41.
Many of the re-earnable temps are at full strength. Only "Reflections" have a reduced duration. In that case, it's the same (reduced) duration every time you get it after the first, not a halving each time.


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Not all temps are re-earnable through Ouro, as Aggie said.

And the duration isn't cut in half on re-earned powers, necessarily. Some powers have "echos" that awarded after the first time you earn the power instead.

list of temp powers, including which ones are Ouro-obtainable and which of those give "echos"

The Nemesis Staff is not listed as a re-obtainable.
Thats pretty depressing. So if you missed them due to outleveling the content you can't earn them at all unless you have a 3 year vet badge or whichever one it is. Being one of the cool temp powers they need to fix that.

edit: Man thats sad... Looking at that list I see alot of neat temp powers which aren't obtainable from ouroboros and some that disappear when you go back to the contact. I hope they change that someday.


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They are called "Temporary" Powers...


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I'm sorry you missed out on some temp powers. I'm a temp power collector myself so I do feel your pain, but Ouro is working exactly as they intended so nothing needs to be fixed.


 

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Being one of the cool temp powers they need to fix that.
Ummm, "fix"? It's not broken. You not liking the system as is does not a broken system make.



 

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They are called "Temporary" Powers...
If you want to go by that logic take a look at the ouroboros portal which is a temp power but look at how often its used (never expires) and it's frequently mis-used as as a lazy travel zone.

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Ummm, "fix"? It's not broken. You not liking the system as is does not a broken system make.
I also said "I hope they change that someday" Seems broken to me if you can't go back and earn things that you missed. It would also be nice since there is no other way to earn this power other than to wait for years of vetrewards.


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The temp version of the Nemi staff only lasts for 24 in game hours anyway. You're not missing much.


 

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If you want to go by that logic take a look at the ouroboros portal which is a temp power but look at how often its used (never expires) and it's frequently mis-used as as a lazy travel zone.
Misused? Actually, this is clearly Working As Intended. If the devs didn't want people using the Ouro Portal as a travel shortcut, then it would force you return to the zone you came from, rather than giving a list of options.


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Misused? Actually, this is clearly Working As Intended. If the devs didn't want people using the Ouro Portal as a travel shortcut, then it would force you return to the zone you came from, rather than giving a list of options.
haha I knew someone would post that. I was just waiting on it. The zone was created because badge people wanted a way to get badges from content that they missed and repeat old content. Not for you to use a mario warp zone.

I hope they some day add all missions to it so I can also use it as a way to get the temp powers metioned again.


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I still suggest a 'Weapons shop' idea. With swords, pistols, random stuff and the temp powers.

It never gets very far, but for something to buy for a bit of mission help or for use in RP, I can't see a downside. Besides, aren't people always saying the game needs more inf sinks?


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Misused? Actually, this is clearly Working As Intended. If the devs didn't want people using the Ouro Portal as a travel shortcut, then it would force you return to the zone you came from, rather than giving a list of options.
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haha I knew someone would post that. I was just waiting on it. The zone was created because badge people wanted a way to get badges from content that they missed and repeat old content. Not for you to use a mario warp zone.
You were waiting for it, yet you do not in any way refute or diminish my point. It could have been used for badges and repeating old content without giving the option of multiple destinations upon exiting.
Like I said.


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If you want to go by that logic take a look at the ouroboros portal which is a temp power but look at how often its used (never expires) and it's frequently mis-used as as a lazy travel zone.
And I think that it needs to be typed as an accolade power, because it's ridiculous as a perma-temp power. And the origin attack needs to be changed to inherent, as well.


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I still suggest a 'Weapons shop' idea. With swords, pistols, random stuff and the temp powers.

It never gets very far, but for something to buy for a bit of mission help or for use in RP, I can't see a downside. Besides, aren't people always saying the game needs more inf sinks?
That would be so cool. Kinda like the Jet Pack Supplier in the Shard, but for more weapons. Even if they had shorter clocks, like 10 hours of game time, it would be cool.


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I still suggest a 'Weapons shop' idea. With swords, pistols, random stuff and the temp powers.

It never gets very far, but for something to buy for a bit of mission help or for use in RP, I can't see a downside. Besides, aren't people always saying the game needs more inf sinks?
AE tickets would be a nice way to get the various huge list of temp powers we have ingame.

Here is just small list and a example, the ticket cost / time could be higher or lower but generally I think 12 - 48 hours on certain powers would be good enough. Due to the ticket limit and farm nerfs.

Power Tickets Ingame Time
Nemesis staff 3000 24 hours
Black wand 3000 24 hours
Undead Slaying Axe 2500 24 hours
Sands of MU 2500 24 hours
Summon Team Mates 4000 24 hours
Self Rez 2500 48 hours
Flamethrower 2500 12 hours

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You were waiting for it, yet you do not in any way refute or diminish my point. It could have been used for badges and repeating old content without giving the option of multiple destinations upon exiting.
Like I said.
I did diminish your point. There is no it could of been used for badges and repeating old content. It only was intended for badges and repeating or completing missed content.

They designed it to send you to the most common zones story arcs are in or to areas that link to those zones. So you still have to travel. This was the intent so that the core zones still remain populated to an extent and its still why they haven't extended the number of zones that the portal can send you to.


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I did diminish your point. There is no it could of been used for badges and repeating old content. It only was intended for badges and repeating or completing missed content.
Actually, you didn't.


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I did diminish your point. There is no it could of been used for badges and repeating old content. It only was intended for badges and repeating or completing missed content.

They designed it to send you to the most common zones story arcs are in or to areas that link to those zones. So you still have to travel. This was the intent so that the core zones still remain populated to an extent and its still why they haven't extended the number of zones that the portal can send you to.
Yeah, actually you didn't.
The devs made a deliberate decision to allow Ouro to send you to multiple zones instead of only the one you came from, which is how bases work by default. This clearly supports my position.

And you don't get to say what the devs' *INTENT* was, unless you're claiming psychic powers or can point us to a redname quote. I can make suppositions, too. I claim the INTENT was to facilitate travel - and I offer the EVIDENCE of the FACT you can travel to multiple zones from Ouroboros. What FACTS do you offer?


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