A few QoL improvement that are coming
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Posted on: 2009-10-29 20:54 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
The two "10%" ones were mention in the hero con GR info thread, but I'd not heard about then cross-faction insps trading - it'll make ITFs a little easier 
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Yup. And I giggled at "titbits".
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
The two "10%" ones were mention in the hero con GR info thread, but I'd not heard about then cross-faction insps trading - it'll make ITFs a little easier
The inspiration trading is news to me. Nice. 
"titbits"
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Originally Posted by Fuzun
First is Inspiration trading across alignments
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I had been aware of these, but thought that the 10% clickie thing was also dependent on the 10% mob bit. What happens if a map only has one clickie on it?
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I'm really happy about the stores buying back enhancements at the same rate. It's a change I've been wanting for a LONG time! While it's not terribly time consuming, it is annoying having to travel from store to store trying to maximize your profits.
Who do I have to *&^% around here to get more Targeted AoE recipes added?
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Oh and not sure if it was mentioned, but also:
- Being able to switch characters without having to log out fully.
Was mentioned as being in the works.
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I've never paid any attention to that. For that matter, I often just delete regular enhancements since it's a bother to go sell them at the store at all. |
Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack
I'm really happy about the stores buying back enhancements at the same rate. It's a change I've been wanting for a LONG time! While it's not terribly time consuming, it is annoying having to travel from store to store trying to maximize your profits.
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Then it would be at 100% remaining till you clicked it and go to 0%
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I had been aware of these, but thought that the 10% clickie thing was also dependent on the 10% mob bit. What happens if a map only has one clickie on it?
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Is that what they said? I thought it was "Enhancement prices will be standardized across all vendors/contacts" as in contacts won't SELL enhancements for more than the stores do (frequently 200%). I actually wish contacts sold for less than stores. It would certainly encourage people to try for contacts of their origin.
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Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack
I'm really happy about the stores buying back enhancements at the same rate. It's a change I've been wanting for a LONG time! While it's not terribly time consuming, it is annoying having to travel from store to store trying to maximize your profits.
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Hmmm it could be that I read it wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
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Originally Posted by Golden_Avariel
Is that what they said? I thought it was "Enhancement prices will be standardized across all vendors/contacts" as in contacts won't SELL enhancements for more than the stores do (frequently 200%). I actually wish contacts sold for less than stores. It would certainly encourage people to try for contacts of their origin.
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Who do I have to *&^% around here to get more Targeted AoE recipes added?
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finally!
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Originally Posted by dr_darkspeed
oh and not sure if it was mentioned, but also:
was mentioned as being in the works. |
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Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit
"titbits"
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And what's even more interestng, my spell checker missed, So it's an actual word or I've got one funky dictionary.
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Originally Posted by Fuzun
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And what's even more interestng, my spell checker missed, So it's an actual word or I've got one funky dictionary. |
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Can anyone please confirm the source of the point about inspiration cross trading? I'm very skeptical on this.
Cause this would make separation of markets pointless.
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Er, how? Inspirations, I should think, make up a fairly small part of the daily traffic at Wentworth's and Big Truck Discount.
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Originally Posted by Bright Shadow
Can anyone please confirm the source of the point about inspiration cross trading? I'm very skeptical on this.
Cause this would make separation of markets pointless. |
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Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
Oh and not sure if it was mentioned, but also:
Was mentioned as being in the works. |
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What the! *unplugs webcam* Why was this thing on?!?
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Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit
"titbits"
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Originally Posted by Mr. NoPants
Then it would be at 100% remaining till you clicked it and go to 0%
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That's not the issue.
Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
Er, how? Inspirations, I should think, make up a fairly small part of the daily traffic at Wentworth's and Big Truck Discount.
As of now, there is no way at all to convert infamy to influence. The supply and demand on the blue side is completely separate from the red side. Infamy never crosses to blue side, and influence never crosses to red side. The total amount of influence on both sides are completely independent on one another.
Now, the moment a SINGLE item defies that rule, the entire market would lose this structure. How?
By using that items to 'transfer' infamy to blue side, or influence to red side. I can simply buy inspiration from blue side, decrease the supply on blue side, and decrease my own influence. Then I transfer all inspirations to red side. I sell them back to the market on red side, increasing the supply of red side inspirations, and increasing my own infamy. I haven't actually EARNED any inspirations on either side. I have manipulated the market of BOTH sides without the contribution of ANYONE else. See the flaw?
Now, I'm not saying this is actually wrong and should not be done. I'm in favor of market merging. But considering how developers are against market merging, this IS a flaw.
Sure, inspirations aren't significant to market right now, but if cross-trading of inspirations is true, then they will be used as a form of universal currency in the market that can go on either side.
The only way to allow inspiration cross-trading and keep markets disjoint is to remove inspirations from the markets entirely.
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Fine by me. I don't give one-tenth of one crap about people gaming In-Game eBay, but if heroes, villains, and those in between are going to be encouraged to team up a lot more, being able to drop candy onto people from the other side of the fence in the heat of battle is going to become that much more important.
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Originally Posted by Bright Shadow
The only way to allow inspiration cross-trading and keep markets disjoint is to remove inspirations from the markets entirely.
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Okay, so, I'm not an ebil marketeer, and most of this seems more than a little abstract to me. However, if I read what you're saying right, it looks to be that your argument is that taking two objects that were previously exclusive, and making them partially interinfluencial, will lead through a string of consequences that ultimately unhinge the market's structure?|
Originally Posted by Bright Shadow
That's not the issue. As of now, there is no way at all to convert infamy to influence. The supply and demand on the blue side is completely separate from the red side. Infamy never crosses to blue side, and influence never crosses to red side. The total amount of influence on both sides are completely independent on one another. Now, the moment a SINGLE item defies that rule, the entire market would lose this structure. How? By using that items to 'transfer' infamy to blue side, or influence to red side. I can simply buy inspiration from blue side, decrease the supply on blue side, and decrease my own influence. Then I transfer all inspirations to red side. I sell them back to the market on red side, increasing the supply of red side inspirations, and increasing my own infamy. I haven't actually EARNED any inspirations on either side. I have manipulated the market of BOTH sides without the contribution of ANYONE else. See the flaw? Now, I'm not saying this is actually wrong and should not be done. I'm in favor of market merging. But considering how developers are against market merging, this IS a flaw. Sure, inspirations aren't significant to market right now, but if cross-trading of inspirations is true, then they will be used as a form of universal currency in the market that can go on either side. The only way to allow inspiration cross-trading and keep markets disjoint is to remove inspirations from the markets entirely. |
I'm trying not to set up a straw man, but it seems that if something like Inspirations, which are already available AE store for a mere one ticket, were going to wreck the market, we'd have seen signs of it somewhere else previously. If systems don't suddenly develop breaking points, but rather, have them exposed, then it would seem we'd have seen ramifications of this somewhere else.
But, as I've taken pains to stress, I'm not knowledgeable on any of this. Please, educate me.
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Well, it wouldn't bring market to an apocalypse. I'm saying it'd simply ruin the market structure as a disjoint system. It's fully stable otherwise.
Originally Posted by FunstuffofDoom
Okay, so, I'm not an ebil marketeer, and most of this seems more than a little abstract to me. However, if I read what you're saying right, it looks to be that your argument is that taking two objects that were previously exclusive, and making them partially interinfluencial, will lead through a string of consequences that ultimately unhinge the market's structure?
I'm trying not to set up a straw man, but it seems that if something like Inspirations, which are already available AE store for a mere one ticket, were going to wreck the market, we'd have seen signs of it somewhere else previously. If systems don't suddenly develop breaking points, but rather, have them exposed, then it would seem we'd have seen ramifications of this somewhere else.
But, as I've taken pains to stress, I'm not knowledgeable on any of this. Please, educate me.
And it's not the question of how worthless or valuable inspirations are at the moment.
The issue is, if inspiration cross-trading becomes a reality, over time, Inspirations will be used as a universal currency. They have one thing special that neither infamy, nor influence have: ability to go to both red and blue side. They can be used as a method to transfer infamy over to blue side, and transfer influence over to red side. If this happens, there is no point in keeping markets disjoint anymore.
I haven't seem these titbits mention prominently on the boards. So her they are in their own thread.
First is Inspiration trading across alignments
Second is that The last 10% of foes will have markers on the mini-map for Defeat All missions.
And third is The last 10% of clickies will have markers on the mini-map.