Going Rogue and character slots

Actually I think it's more likely that instead of increasing the number of slots per server they might give us a couple of free slots to add to a server of our choice. Of course those of us with 36 filled already would have to choose an alternate server.

Either way I'll be happy with whatever we get given.

That argument won't fly with me. I'm disabled and live on a fixed income of $770. per month and still manage to live on a budget that pays my bills and covers my accounts.

Actually playing on several servers great, because players are expanding their communities not splitting them up. Private global channels are cross server as well as cross faction. Having characters on multiple servers means those players rarely have trouble finding people to play with.

Well, I'm glad you have such a great understanding of everyone's financial situation. </sarcasm>

Counter-example: as a student with no job, living off of savings, my base expenses are roughly three times what you earn as income per month, with nothing to offset it. Having one account is a luxury. Having two is an unnecessary expense.

I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this point. I don't have the time to immerse myself in any more communities.

Explains why you seem so grumpy.

Oh please living off of savings is a personal choice. Lots of students work jobs and still manage to stay on the deans list. Some even work several jobs at the same time. Students can also get paid for participating in studies.

Heck anyone can sell blood once a month which will net them around $40 bucks, and if you choose to sell plasma which only takes 30 minutes it will net you $35 per session, and you can have 2 sessions a week. That's $70 a week and it only takes an hour of your time. In a month you'd have $280 which is enough to pay for 18 accounts.

Naw. I'm grumpy because I'm an ***hole. Always have been.

I wasn't hoping for an armchair analysis of my financial situation, thank you very much. I obviously live the way I do by choice, not because someone makes me.

My point is that just because you feel it's an affordable expense, that doesn't mean it is an affordable expense for everyone. Nevermind the fact that a new account would be devoid of all vet badges and paid upgrades like booster packs.

My account doesn't have nearly that many.

Proof, if ever it was needed, that us in the EU are unequal in the eyes of the Devs

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The POINT of playing the multiplayer portion of the game is to play with people you like and enjoy teaming with. These people are, for the most part, on one server. I'd like to stick to that one server and play with them. Recently I got involved with a really cool group of people on Pinnacle, but with half my characters on Victory and no more room on Pinnacle, I spend half my time away and by myself.

In fact, you have to have seen the continual requests people make to sacrifice slots on one server for extra slots on another. You can't just up and say "If you want to play on only one server, you're SOL. Neener neener!" Are you seriously going to claim that people are wrong for wanting more slots on their home server? Seriously? Because precedent has shown that the developers have continually increased the available slots.

So, the solution is to buy another account? Do I even need explain why that is a HORRIBLE idea? It's like telling someone to "just buy a new car." Not everyone can afford that. I can't afford that. I can barely afford my subscription right now, there's no way I can justify buying the whole game and maintaining another subscription. At all.

And then even if I did, what about my veteran status? Half the costume pieces I use are from veteran rewards. What about my booster packs? I have at least $50 in bonus packs, and it's not something I want to just buy all over again just to break even.

I don't want, nor can I support a second account. And, frankly, I don't appreciate being told that what I want out of the game is stupid, unreasonable and shouldn't happen. What does it hurt you for people to ask for more slots on their favourite servers?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I'm all in favor of adding the EU servers to the NA server list. That would give everyone 15 servers to play on, give our EU brothers and sisters thousands of people to play with.

If you don't want your financial situation discussed then you shouldn't bring it up in the first place.

They don't let EU players buy character slots?

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"Silly villain, CoX is for Heroes!" -Saicho

Of course they do.

But if your solution to the fact we get 1/6th the amount of free slots the US do is "Give NCSoft even more money for the privilige of a few more" it's not exactly a fair and equitable solution now is it?

This was a common occurence on the Champions Online forums too -- the single-minded folks chiming in on a request from the alt-players. I'm in absolute agreement with you, can't hurt simply to ask for some consideration of a few slots. Doesn't even have to be 2 per server but, as someone suggested, give us a few of "coupons" equivalent to the veteran rewards and we'll just open them on the server we choose.

I appreciate it guys, thanks! ( ' : Hopefully bringing it up now makes it an item for consideration for the devs (assuming it wasn't already)

Forgive me, the "playing since '04" comment was not meant to impress you, rather to illustrate the point that I made: lots of time is invested in my characters...as such, moving them to another server where their name is taken and they are then named "SuperHeroMan1" does not work. After all the time invested, re-rolling with the same experience all over again doesn't seem as appealing. I like trying new things.

But going to a new server? Making a new account?

I have an account. I'm not into the whole 'playing two characters at once' thing, so one account does it for me in that sense. But to start a whole new account just because I'm full up actually is less advantageous than just more slot space. A new account will not give the nice veteran perks that come along...(Edit: and the boosters, which when coupled were indeed a chunk of change.) I've already begun anew once, and it was a bit of a let down. As to the new server thing, I can see that in some sense, but do they let you transfer you personal Sg/VG? Mmmmm...not so much. All the stuff I crafted for other characters, the base layout, all that goes.

I'm not saying "I demand you do this!" just that I would very much like this feature. And if they did give a new maximum # of slots per server, they can keep getting my money as I gradually purchase more. Win/win situation, for me, for them.

I never said that players were wrong for wanting more slots. I said I didn't think the devs are going to give us extra slots.

Yes I have seen those requests. I've seen them made by people that have bought all the slots available and by those that don't want to buy any extra slots. It doesn't change my mind on this.

This is no different than the people that start complaining that they have nothing to do in-game a week after a new issue is released because they plowed through the new content already. No matter how many slots the devs make available per server there will always be players that will want more slots because they filled up the ones they already have.
If we are going to indulge in our altitis then we have to take responsibility for our actions and accept that at some point we are going hit the limit and we'll to have to decide to . . .

A. Delete some characters

B. Transfer characters to different servers to make room

C. Start another account

We are very lucky that we have cheap server transfers so we can save characters we don't play as often as others.

"Stupid, unreasonable, and shouldn't happen" Those are your words Sam not mine. I never used them, and again I also never said I was against getting more slots. What I actually said was that I don't think the devs are going to give us more. Big difference there Sam.

Not a problem. When I read the post I got the impression that you were implying that a person who has played longer has a more significant attachment to their characters and that rubbed my feathers the wrong way and my mulish nature kicked in.

No hard feelings, and I appreciate your responding with clarification.

Inevitably when our coalition comes up with a whacky new 'concept' group, we start it on a new server. some work and last, others dont keep activity up.

I'm pretty sure that coalition (which I think of as a Triumph grouping) plays together at leats in part on 4 different servers now.

You dont have to move servers on your own, you bring some people with you.

Granted, they're my words, but they're what I inferred from the tone I read in your post. The mistake was mine in saying "I don't appreciate being told such and such" when you didn't actually say it. I was speaking more in terms of a general attitude towards the matter, which really did come off as "You want more slots? Well too bad!"

Also, I'm not sure assuming the developers won't give us any extra slots is a safe bet. They gave us extra with City of Villains, they gave us extra with with one of the recent Issues. Who's to say they won't just plop down another page of purchasable slots? Who's to say they won't throw in another 6 free with Going Rogue? It would make sense, after all. The expansion would (or at the very least SHOULD) create plenty of new opportunities for unique characters. Now, you can easily say "Meh, so make them on another server." but why NOT let people have their cake and eat it, too? Is there any real downside to allowing more slots?

Come on, man, you're better than this. Sliding scale arguments are a really cheap trick. Yes, people will always want more. That's no argument to not give them more from time to time. In fact, just stubbornly doing the opposite of what people want because they'll never be satisfied is pretty bad policy.

How about:

D. Sacrifice slots on other servers to get more characters on the one I'm currently playing? I will never EVER play on Virtue. Ever. And this has nothing to do with the people there. Virtue is a West Coast server and I live in Eastern Europe. For me, Virtue lags significantly more than, say, Victory or Pinnacle. I am practically incapable of playing on Virtue because the performance of the game on that server is garbage from my end. Of course, that's just fine - I have other servers I can play on. But that's till potentially 36 slots I'll never have access to.

I'm asking this seriously, do you honestly foresee a problem with this?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I was thinking in terms of per server, not globally available, hence my confusion.

I'm not proposing a solution to anything. Hell, I'm all for merging the server lists.

Carry on.

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"Silly villain, CoX is for Heroes!" -Saicho

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