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There hasn't been any official word that they will do this, but it has been a common speculation. Most likely, what they CURRENTLY mean will continue to stand; Heroes will not be able to do "Villain" missions, and Villains will not be able to do "Hero" missions. Where Vigilantes and Rogues will stand in this, though, no one knows. |
Originally Posted by Felderburg
I could be terribly wrong about this, but i was under the impression that the "Hero" or "Villain" in missions meant that they affected your standing as a hero or villain once they were completed (do a "Hero" mission and you're one step closer to the blue side). If that's the case, I assume AE missions don't affect this? I know it's very unlikely that they will, just thought I'd check.
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Since anyone can do either Hero or Villain missions in the AE, it's unlikely that restriction will be added. AE missions MAY effect your alignment standing, but that's not really known. I think it might be helpful, supposedly you can level 1-50 in the AE, being able to use it to switch sides might be helpful too. I doubt it will be quick, though, maybe a minor change with each mission.
As for the whole Hero/Villain mission thing, a redname stated at one point that they wanted to make sure that your character made a conscious choice to do the good/bad thing in order to shift your alignment.
They absolutely don't want to make it so you shift your alignment just by getting stuck on a team that happens to be running those missions.
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I feel a little dumb replying to a two week old post, but I failed to see your reply before, and I'm very sorry for the delay. Positron (I believe) stated that switching sides does not exclude you from the special perks, it just makes it take longer to earn them. I'm pretty sure it's also been mentioned that you have to be full-Hero or full-Villain, not a Vigilante or Rogue, to take advantage of these perks.|
Originally Posted by Anarchist_Kitten
Also they've said there will be extra special perks for hero ATs that stay heroes and villain ATs that stay villiains.
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Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, said post was made in the Issue 16 open beta forums, which has been purged.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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It will let you do that - but the side switching process is not quick - it not a "light switch" where you just flip between one or the other - changing sides will be hard, and it's quite posisble changing back again will be even harder.
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Originally Posted by Stormfront_NA
My original thoughts are:
1. Villain side cost for salvage and recipies are way more expensive than blue side. 2. Convert my Villains to Heroes, fully IO set them as heroes 3. Revert back to Villain That is my basic gameplan for "Going Rogue", if the expansion will not let me do that, I am not sure havig a new origin (Praetorian) with a zone or two to allow me to reach 20 is worth the $50 for the expansion. |
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I haven't heard anything about it - but it's possible they'll hand one out when GR launches.
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Originally Posted by Spiderfang
(I posted this in the "Official Going Rogue thread", but I thought it couldn't hurt to add it here.)
Does anyone know if there will be a global rename allowed with Going Rogue? I really, really, really...REALLY would like to change my lame global handle. |
@Golden Girl
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They normaly hand one out with every issue if I recall.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I haven't heard anything about it - but it's possible they'll hand one out when GR launches.
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They often hand out a free respec around every issue, but not a global name change. In the 4 years I've been playing I think they've only done that once, maybe twice.
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this what is the reason to be a gray guard so too speak? oh well time will answer everthing
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Originally Posted by SDragon
Ok, so. If I'm one of the gray options(Rogue/Vigilante)... Why would I bother going over efully?
I mean, the markets are more or less the same(Selling the same stuff, not quantity). And if that's the only difference then why wouldn't I stick near the middle and enjoy both side's content? UNLESS there's more? Oh please tell me there's more. I would love to see something like... the PPD attacking Vigilantes? Maybe contacts on the one side don't talk to you? At least the pure evil/Boyscout guys. Only the "gray" contacts will deal with you? Maybe some new contacts get scattered about the zones with some "gray" content. What I'm saying is... If market accessibility is the only thing that differs Rogues from Vigilantes... Why be anything other then a Vigilante(For the hero market)? If you're a Hero or Villain, when compared to the new options. The only difference is you can't team with as many people or see as much content. Doesn't that make the new options vastly superior to the old? |
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Originally Posted by Hydrofoil_Zero
I still can't rap my head about why were bothering discussing merged markets. Since you'll have to be lvl X to go to leave Pratoria for ether of the blue or red zones assuming you ever wish to wouldn't there be a dedicated Pratoren red/blue market. We'd ether end up with 3 markets satisfying the need for both sides of the debate or one combined which I dought. If there were you'd, according to story cannon, be trading across dimensions.
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Think that may be where DJ Zero may come in?
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
According to Positron, there will be a market in Paretoria, and it will be linked to some form of "inter-dimensional trading".
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That is good enough, as long as there is light at the end of the tunnel; that is good enough for me, I don't mind the hard work to change sides, in a way, that in itself could be very exciting.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It will let you do that - but the side switching process is not quick - it not a "light switch" where you just flip between one or the other - changing sides will be hard, and it's quite posisble changing back again will be even harder.
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Will the sticky Going Rogue FAQ in the Announcements get updated?
(In general, a lot of sticky sections could use some maintenance and cleaning up)
alot of the forums could use cleaning but that's just my opinion
Will all my villian badges change in to hero names if i turn a lvl 50 to a hero? or will i be able to get blue badges as well as keep the red ones ?
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There are some badges that have specific Hero names and Villain names, like the ones for the Signature Hero TFs (Positron's Ally/Positron's Betrayer) or the low-level Achievements for healing, damage received, time spent mezzed, and inf earned. Most badges don't have multiple names--smacking around 100 Clockwork Gears will give you "Gear Smasher" regardless of which side you're on. Badges with two names will (supposedly) change to the appropriate name when you've switched sides.|
Originally Posted by Redd Rumm
Will all my villian badges change in to hero names if i turn a lvl 50 to a hero? or will i be able to get blue badges as well as keep the red ones ?
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I say supposedly there, because we don't know. There isn't any redname communication to confirm that certain badges might not be hidden completely when you change sides. Some people worry that some badges might even be removed, though the devs have been gracious enough to hint that that won't happen.
Still, there's very little concrete information to go on when it comes to badging. We should know more in the next few months.
Main Hero: Chad Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1396 Badges
Main Villain: Evil Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1193 Badges
Mission Architect arcs: Doctor Brainstorm's An Experiment Gone Awry, Arc ID 2093
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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Someone should go through all the badges, and worked out how many are unique to each side 
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on the red side we have high pain threshold ,invader ,demonic aura ,ect are the blue side accolades the same an if not how sick would it be to have a toon with all the accolades . well here to hopeing that reformed villians can gain blue side accolades once switched over an still keep the red ones !!
Pretty sure (not 100% positive) it's been confirmed that you'll only be able to have 1 version of an accolade. If you get a red side accolade that gives +5% HP, you won't be able to get a blue side accolade that gives the same bonus.
You can switch from red to blue and keep your red accolades, but you won't get the same type of accolade blue side.
You can get the BADGES that would normally grant the blue side accolade, you just won't get to "double dip".
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
Yeah, you won't be able to double up on the accolade bonuses.
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Oh, I can say with 100% certainty this has been confirmed. Check out Positron's Q&A video from the end of the Going Rogue panel at this year's HeroCon. No double-dipping.|
Originally Posted by Ynaught
Pretty sure (not 100% positive) it's been confirmed that you'll only be able to have 1 version of an accolade. If you get a red side accolade that gives +5% HP, you won't be able to get a blue side accolade that gives the same bonus.
You can switch from red to blue and keep your red accolades, but you won't get the same type of accolade blue side. You can get the BADGES that would normally grant the blue side accolade, you just won't get to "double dip". |
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Main Hero: Chad Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1396 Badges
Main Villain: Evil Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1193 Badges
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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I dont see the harm in letting us double dip on certain accolades specifically the passives. I feel that if you took the time to go thru all those long *** tfs as a villain then you deserve the accolade too. Even with the clicks they are on such stupidly long timers that only folks who have super high recharge builds will be able to take advantage of this.
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Originally Posted by EvilRyu
I dont see the harm in letting us double dip on certain accolades specifically the passives.
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The "harm" is that characters who switch sides will have the opportunity to gain a specific advantage over those who do not. They've already said they want to reward characters who do not switch sides, and this goes entirely against that notion.
Main Hero: Chad Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1396 Badges
Main Villain: Evil Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1193 Badges
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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Well, although they don't have any bonuses, it seems that's what they're doing with the non-accolade badges - if you stay loyal, you miss out on collecting the unique ones on the other side
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Not everyone's a badger. I am, obviously, and will be switching sides almost entirely for an excuse to grab some sweet, delicious badges. Collecting badges makes my OCD demons quiet down.
The rewards for not switching include a new "power up" system that they've given us absolutely zero confirmed information for, other than the fact that it exists and is associated with staying loyal to your faction. If the old marketting survey is even partially correct, the best we can assume is that it will include global enhancement slots, allowing you to boost some global stat for your character...
...while simultaneously nerfing Accuracy, Defense and Regen.
Note that a red name commented in the now-deleted Issue 16 Beta forums that switching sides will NOT exclude you from earning these rewards, but that you will earn them at a slower rate than someone who does not switch. (My guess is that switching sides also resets your progress on this "power up" system to zero, but that's just a hypothesis.)
Main Hero: Chad Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1396 Badges
Main Villain: Evil Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1193 Badges
Mission Architect arcs: Doctor Brainstorm's An Experiment Gone Awry, Arc ID 2093
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Not everyone's a badger. I am, obviously, and will be switching sides almost entirely for an excuse to grab some sweet, delicious badges. Collecting badges makes my OCD demons quiet down.
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(I posted this in the "Official Going Rogue thread", but I thought it couldn't hurt to add it here.)
Does anyone know if there will be a global rename allowed with Going Rogue?
I really, really, really...REALLY would like to change my lame global handle.