Congrats!!!!
Very Cool ! Gratz !
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Congrats! I would recommend going after Babbage or Jurassik next.
Well, grats!
...not to deflate the achievement or anything, but i'd be more impressed if ya did this on anything BUT ill/rad, which is a proven AV/GM soloing machine. Still, good jerb =)
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I tryed the ill/rad because that reason. Any suggestions on some power combos that could do it but may not be well known for it? I would love to give it a go on an less obvious choice.
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Originally Posted by EmperorSteele
Well, grats!
...not to deflate the achievement or anything, but i'd be more impressed if ya did this on anything BUT ill/rad, which is a proven AV/GM soloing machine. Still, good jerb =) |
Off the top of my head, I'm thinking Ice/ mixed with Fire or Sonic. The trick will be keeping your pet alive so that agro doesn't get passed on to you... hopefully you can slow the AV enough that he rarely gets a shot off. Of course, Emp or Kin would be best for keeping Jack Frost alive, except neither set debuffs the AV's damage resistance (kin does have extra damage and -regen though, but it takes a lot of effort to keep yourself max buffed and you'll be hard pressed to fit in an attack chain, which is why it wouldn't be my first choice)
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need -regen for gm´s
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Originally Posted by EmperorSteele
Off the top of my head, I'm thinking Ice/ mixed with Fire or Sonic. The trick will be keeping your pet alive so that agro doesn't get passed on to you... hopefully you can slow the AV enough that he rarely gets a shot off. Of course, Emp or Kin would be best for keeping Jack Frost alive, except neither set debuffs the AV's damage resistance (kin does have extra damage and -regen though, but it takes a lot of effort to keep yourself max buffed and you'll be hard pressed to fit in an attack chain, which is why it wouldn't be my first choice)
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Ummm, right then.|
Originally Posted by TRTerror
need -regen for gm´s
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I should think that a significant enough amount of -Def and/or -Res would suffice, effectively that would increase your damage enough to be able to overcome the un-debuffed Regen... which, after all, really is the issue with a GM's Regen, isn't it? Overcoming said Regen with enough damage to actually make an impact over time?
But if you want to oversimplify with what amounts to old wive's tales (veracity-wise) then go right ahead.
Also, I shudder anytime someone says what someone else "needs" to complete a given scenario. With enough patience (read: excessive patience) lots of things CAN solo AVs/GMs, its just that most sane players would not want to spend the required time in doing such things.
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iirc you need about 360 dps to solo a gm. Gz on the gm kill btw lucky
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Originally Posted by Thirty_Seven
Ummm, right then.
I should think that a significant enough amount of -Def and/or -Res would suffice, effectively that would increase your damage enough to be able to overcome the un-debuffed Regen... which, after all, really is the issue with a GM's Regen, isn't it? Overcoming said Regen with enough damage to actually make an impact over time? But if you want to oversimplify with what amounts to old wive's tales (veracity-wise) then go right ahead. Also, I shudder anytime someone says what someone else "needs" to complete a given scenario. With enough patience (read: excessive patience) lots of things CAN solo AVs/GMs, its just that most sane players would not want to spend the required time in doing such things. |
I could not find a source for this despite combing ParagonWiki and the forums, but 360 dps sounds about right based on dim memories of lurking the Scrapper forums. And very, very few builds are capable of even breaking the 300 dps barrier, -res debuffs or not. To the best of my knowledge no Scrapper build can, except perhaps ShredMonkey's DB/SR that we haven't figured out how to reproduce. So he's not far from the truth when he says that you need -Regen to solo a GM ("solo" as in no-insps no-temp powers style).
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-def does very little given that GM's aren't hard to hit...at all.|
Originally Posted by Thirty_Seven
Ummm, right then.
I should think that a significant enough amount of -Def and/or -Res would suffice, effectively that would increase your damage enough to be able to overcome the un-debuffed Regen... which, after all, really is the issue with a GM's Regen, isn't it? Overcoming said Regen with enough damage to actually make an impact over time? But if you want to oversimplify with what amounts to old wive's tales (veracity-wise) then go right ahead. Also, I shudder anytime someone says what someone else "needs" to complete a given scenario. With enough patience (read: excessive patience) lots of things CAN solo AVs/GMs, its just that most sane players would not want to spend the required time in doing such things. |
-res is very nice
powerful -regen is pretty darn important
As mentioned you need to crack in the mid 300's dps to even start tackling the project. How you get that dps is up to you, but I can't think of any builds that are able to do it without -regen.
So for GM's I'd say the old wives tale is more like the old tale of reality. AV's are a different story depending on the particular one* as solo'ing them isn't really a very noteworthy accomplishment these days.
*some very difficult AV's out there, some push overs.
If you can think of any builds capable of solo'ing GM's without -regen that would be worth bringing up.
OP try it with a /cold controller, an ill or fire/cold should be capable of it, but it would be no picnic. Or roll up a traps defender (sonic, or iceblast); they of course will go through GM's pretty easy just as the corr and MM versions do, but I haven't heard of anyone rolling one up yet and doing it. Thermal might also get the job done for you.
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I haven't done it myself, but I have seen reports that an Ill/Storm can solo a GM . . . the damage from Tornado pretty much offsets the Regen.
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
If you can think of any builds capable of solo'ing GM's without -regen that would be worth bringing up.
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When i had my high recharge and procced out build on my ill/storm(pre lightning storm changes) i had a hard time putting a dent on gm´s solo.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
I haven't done it myself, but I have seen reports that an Ill/Storm can solo a GM . . . the damage from Tornado pretty much offsets the Regen.
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I could "almost" solo most AVs with Perma PA Ill/Storm before the LS nerf. Some I would fight for 20 minutes and they would run off and heal since I didn't have an immobilize. Once or twice I took them down.
I could never put a dent in a GM by myself. Luckily, they couldn't dent me either.
After the recharge pet changes, I stripped down that toon to common IOs and started outfitting my Illusion/Rad
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I wish, but its not even close, even with perma double nado.|
Originally Posted by Local_Man
I haven't done it myself, but I have seen reports that an Ill/Storm can solo a GM . . . the damage from Tornado pretty much offsets the Regen.
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My old fire/storm build was going to end up in the mid 300's in an ideal situation (about 350 ish) and that toon is far above what an ill/storm can do. LS nerf absolutely gutted the project though considering double LS contributed over 1/3rd of the dps.
Perma double nado (which is not realistic at all, more like 1.5 nados perma)
= 407*1.95*2 (nado is auto hit so no need to reduce the hit chance)
=1587.7 damage over ~31.32 seconds
=50.69dps x -res (say 56% -res, which iirc is about what you'd get on a high rech storm with achiles)
=79.08 dps
I never got around to proc'ing my nado as the LS nerf hit mid project and I abondoned it, but I've heard mixed reviews. Some say it only procs at the start, but if it procs at 0, 10, 20, and 30 that would be 8 proc chances for double nado and you can put 3 procs in it. So 24 procs in ~31.32 seconds.
=344.64 additional dam / 31.32
=11 dps x -res
=17.17dps
total of 96.25
So not enough to overcome the regen of an AV and no where near that of an GM. bare in mind that is for double nado which requires +300% recharge, so very unlikely.
Now double perma LS proc'd out and machine gun firing back in the day was a sight to behold in the rare situations you could leverage it (basically only in tough encounters).. I barely cast the dam power now though
I have no doubt a decent ill/storm can tear apart an AV as I've seen a mind/storm do it. A bit of an issue pops up when LS and nado make them flee all over the place and you have no way to stop it, but maybe the taunt of Phantom Army greatly reduces that. The mind/storm I saw was a game of pin the tail on the donkey for how much chase was required. But a GM is a whole different issue.
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Originally Posted by TRTerror
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Congrats, Lucky! Wonderful job!! You should be proud.
I really should try creating an ill/rad for this purpose...just to see if I can do it.
I wonder...how hard is it to get perma-PA? What types of IOs are needed? Or is there a guide somewhere? 
Again... my hat's off to you!
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Speaking of, hast Tal_N left the game? Didn't see him around for a while.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
I haven't done it myself, but I have seen reports that an Ill/Storm can solo a GM . . . the damage from Tornado pretty much offsets the Regen.
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I wouldn't say its that hard, I had a few questions myself. But you need i'd say at least 190% global recharge with hasten and add AM to that you get 220% recharge. I am using Local_Mans edit to Ohsirus' build. Can be found here: http://boards.cityofheroes.com//showthread.php?t=192392
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Originally Posted by Soundtrack
Congrats, Lucky! Wonderful job!! You should be proud.
I really should try creating an ill/rad for this purpose...just to see if I can do it. I wonder...how hard is it to get perma-PA? What types of IOs are needed? Or is there a guide somewhere? Again... my hat's off to you! |
So I soled my first ever Giant monster yesterday The Kraken and it was on my Ill/rad
Here are some pics
The fight begins
Aww snakes he's at half health
A boulder to the head with that low health can't be good
And he's down for the count WootWoot!