Dark/Shield Help again
I'm more curious about the hypothetical. So would I still only need 55% defense to all positions with the very rare? What about the uncommon?
|
If to-hit is 64%, the soft cap is 59%, the very rare might provide around 3%, so you'll need around 56%. The uncommon would provide (15%*20%*2/3+20%*1/3)*21.03% = (2%+6.6667%)*21.03% = 1.82% defense. So you'll need around 57%. And you'll probably want another percent or two over that to handle debuffs.
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
Videos of Other Stupid Scrapper Tricks
I would like to learn how to calculate the math needed for this game so I can become a numberz cruncher lol. I think I'd shoot for 60% using defense bonuses and keep my Spiritual AS to increase my recharge it doesn't seem like it is a reasonable trade off until I get to the very rare when I have a 3% wiggle room in order to add more recharge.
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
Yea... I was wondering about those Devouring Earth in the tips mission. I went in and was shocked to see all these friggin plant things with no eyes treating me like a pin cushion.
They really didn't miss... wow that was nasty. And totally unexpected from beings without... eyes.
I may be stuck taking the Cardiac Incarnate. My build is too end heavy right now.... but it is strong, and has good damage. The 'acceptance' of taking the Endurance Incarnate opens up a new possibility for my slotting though. If Endurance was zero concern, I made a fun 'build' with that idea in mind.
Here's what I came up with if I went with the Endurance Alpha:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.91
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Srixxon Base 2.5: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Hectmb-Dam%(23), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(3), LkGmblr-Def(7), ResDam-I(13), ResDam-I(19), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(40)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(5), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(5), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-%Dam(31)
Level 4: True Grit -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(15), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Theft-Heal(A), Theft-Acc/Heal(11), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(11), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(21), Theft-Heal/Rchg(34), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 10: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(13), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40)
Level 12: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 14: Boxing -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(29), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Mako-Dam%(43), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 22: Tough -- TtmC'tng-EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam(34), ResDam-I(39), GA-3defTpProc(48)
Level 24: Weave -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(25), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(25), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(40), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg(27), Erad-Acc/Rchg(27), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(31), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Erad-%Dam(46)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Super Jump -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Mako-Dam%(46)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 38: One with the Shield -- ResDam-I(A)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(42), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(43), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(45), GSFC-Build%(45)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- EndRdx-I(A), SW-ResDam/Re TP(50)
------------
Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Heal-I(45), Heal-I(50)
Level 2: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(23), EndMod-I(48)
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1607;774;1548;HEX;| |78DAA554D94E1A51183EC322B20C032AE20E2A0A820C626BD22569136B9B344A6B8| |AE9456B6BA67294A904C88009DEF501EC23F4AEB5ED23347DA22EDADE77A1FF3220| |099725E1FBE6FCE75FBF73660AAD8D8010AF6E0B2578A762341A7BC57DCBA8D7A53| |558386E1A4DB3560D152DB3D5AA55E3EB4643C657F5358F1062BCE3B657901529F5| |0DC33AE2C7587767431EC86A43EAC5B2292BA5CE327CBF5A9696AC36F5CE4360BB5| |6ABE85BD2A89BD5439516F7CCC37213565A67AB24AD46D9ACFB685DAC4B590ADFAD| |9BFBFA7AAD74B257301A4D699D8C415F6BF0B7B041FAB55D62D121445E389244836| |9A2D10CD1628AC8A782A742EE6E118287A470448806461474082C0BA421A664148C| |D3A2E1B183204A695322D72FA6DF5CEB2FD1C81FA219E1A45450CBC9B55CCE4DCA3| |EB045B5820F69152A303D201A85226E7657DCDC4C3642740C3B1EBBBC477562473E| |8DE989C07C23BB44B34132CE3EA5951FCA7B399FC36B0F17224A725A151CFC9C56F| |16768DE209302D554BBA07AC0821C124D9589664CA2F41151EE25074388A660C5B6| |D066390A1285B907116693065EC3F698C3DC569EFB71827384779C911C996675A24| |53E8DDC2AE9EA02BFA87D86518D1CC6824C7E7657794C1F519AB3B7206A9C4EB1ED| |1E3F77A050135F98BE12CD7C234A7C27CA5E10CD41D4A4DDED248B33C514F5E03E8| |F36CDA39D802966CB1663D9E22C5B9C658BB36C4BAC5796D50B83207376D41C5FA7| |79BE5CF37CABE6F9C625F87225F8720D41D4825D7E81E5D9818D949D28F5969C97D| |E319D11A5DF132D7F60FA4874068932F61165E294A80889743BB7CED386C06BC5D6| |6185A7CD6F522353AEEE0B28C4844051B67A4D59326DBBBA6F905032648AB9BAAFE| |27FFD3E053AD5BC8F7C803B08DB088F1176119E213C4730105E20EC23B43F77A3B5| |6BD8D075841B08371122218053F4F4E0ABE2470820A80841040D2184308C3081F00| |6A1ED8560270FDD3E871C8A2DB3C29A5CF49A5264FA71697228B7E8DBB39C60B599| |7EF63A9CF207EE35518ECF6EA5577B9447A4FB2CF93ECBD53ECB953ECBA5E2FF002| |3BB1E65| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Nekron: Beam Rifle / Poison Corruptor and Slayer of Evil!! (Exalted)
Intergalaktic: Fire / Time Corruptor (Exalted)
Actually now that I think of it... this is my current build.... Anything 'stupid' about it?
Like I said, end problems in some long winded fights, but the damage has been stellar. (I don't have all the LotG global recharges in yet, so sometimes I wait for dark consumption/shield charge (my opening combo) longer than I want....
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.91
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Srixxon Base 2.5: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(9), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), T'Death-Dam%(43)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(3), LkGmblr-Def(7), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(13), ImpArm-ResDam(19), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(40)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(5), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(5), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-%Dam(31)
Level 4: True Grit -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Numna-Heal/Rchg(15), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Numna-Heal(17), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(34)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Theft-Heal(A), Theft-Acc/Heal(11), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(11), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(21), Theft-Heal/Rchg(34), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 10: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(13), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40)
Level 12: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 14: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(19), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(29), P'Shift-EndMod(31), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(48), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 22: Tough -- EndRdx-I(A), ResDam-I(39), ResDam-I(48)
Level 24: Weave -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(25), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(25), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(40), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg(27), Erad-Acc/Rchg(27), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(31), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Erad-%Dam(46)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Super Jump -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Mako-Dam%(46)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 38: One with the Shield -- ResDam-I(A)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(42), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(43), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(45), GSFC-Build%(45)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Touch of Fear -- EndRdx-I(A)
------------
Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(A), Heal-I(45), Mrcl-Heal(50)
Level 2: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(23), EndMod-I(48)
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1607;772;1544;HEX;| |78DAA5945B4F1A4114C767B914B92C0B2AE21D50540459A5AD492F0F4DAC363191C| |48AF5A155C95646D94A802C98E25B3F807DE9F5A96FAD6D3F42D34FD48BB6EFBDD0| |33E70C48C26349F8FF9833E7366767C936967D8C3DB9C514FFED9251ABE5737B965| |1AD72AB277B5437EA66A51CC85966A3512947978C1A8F5ED6175D8CB1A1965B3ECB| |4B9CEBCB8675483F23ED9D65BECFCB35AEE78A262F155ACBE06AB9C82D5EAEEBAD1| |FBEF54AA5A4AF71A36A960F545CDC310F8A7558797095AB725ED05A5E056ED58A66| |35B85235F7F4A54AE1389F356A756E1D0F425F8BF0B54483F8693AD97DC00CB33D4| |0F46C23067610D3BB88641EE151018A8C0A281815425CEA0764982F8EABDE046226| |0C186335970C8228A569137E8E5F84DF889EBF88FE3F887166C75450CB2E6BD9EF5| |2910D843F87B5029B847B88D81662006A39294A71524FE910E208765CB20B976A17| |8D7934029DBF9F0E1EF3A33146D3F042176ECA6773CB3306103394560507AF2CE84| |D3161F21314A8A65241A60ED30EAC354541931643D363F00AE2789ACEE04B1C40EF| |0BC4E8731AC733C4FC2B44E6354283447DB26A1FB595A17EEC902F241B0E5189E93| |9C43CC1010E6139D7B08631837E821731ADD2F93C88A40FD180A821D9E6D0994D4C| |68F80BE12B62FC1B22FE1D913E474C40D4088D4019A1A98C12C22EB14FC319A3368| |FC114910F28B28FA6E801A1483011B38F10E9434410263121A326E83A4DD2E59AA4| |5B3549372E4E972B4E97AB17A2A664F9299ACB266C2464A2C45B749E7D47384524D| |F23E63E103E224E21518AA6C952514C948344BACCADD369EB70B405695AA0D38E3A| |DA2F2063E2768CB1B54E531A4DEB8EF6ABC394149A228EF63BF85F9F4FBE5635F78| |6077453C8BA902D21DB427684EC0A31843C14B227A4F9B91DAD5D130D5D177243C8| |4D21A100C889F0747941BC427C4254217E219A9080903E21C342DE0869BA21D84E8| |76E9E410E45CE57A1999C779A1268FA7161B2292BF8273117C731675671F5B3D3E1| |049FDCC0537AAFE8A12D74CE5E8C8725BB2C992ECBD52ECB952ECBC5C4FF018ABD2| |12B| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Nekron: Beam Rifle / Poison Corruptor and Slayer of Evil!! (Exalted)
Intergalaktic: Fire / Time Corruptor (Exalted)
I would like to learn how to calculate the math needed for this game so I can become a numberz cruncher lol. I think I'd shoot for 60% using defense bonuses and keep my Spiritual AS to increase my recharge it doesn't seem like it is a reasonable trade off until I get to the very rare when I have a 3% wiggle room in order to add more recharge.
|
I don't know about you guys, heck I don't know what server you're on, but on Freedom, I often start up conversations with people (if they aren't busy) about their toons.
At Wentworth's I was asking someone about their level 50 KM/- toon. They pretty much make fun of people like 'us'.
The forum is full of 'min maxers' and don't get enough out of other aspects of the game.
I hear that more than you'd think.
I was playing on a level 50 team (I don't think anyone was under 45) and a tank was asking how I/O's work. I bet this has happened to you too.
I do think the numbers are getting too complicated for the average player. Heck the time I put into my build? Man if I put half that time into remodeling my bathroom, I'd have a throne fit for Statesman himself.
'We' are definitely in the minority... IMHO.
Nekron: Beam Rifle / Poison Corruptor and Slayer of Evil!! (Exalted)
Intergalaktic: Fire / Time Corruptor (Exalted)
Its Freedom, what do you expect. I rarely venture into Freedom anymore and the only time I do is with WiFry for PvP and usually after I have to go take a shower.
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
yeah?
whatever!!!!!!!!!!
Freedom baby!!!!
They pretty much make fun of people like 'us'.
The forum is full of 'min maxers' and don't get enough out of other aspects of the game ... 'We' are definitely in the minority... IMHO. |
It doesn't bother me at all being in the small minority of players that min/max. But it does strike me as almost willfully ignorant of human nature that people somehow think we're doing it wrong, as if there's a wrong way to play a game. If you're having fun and not ruining everyone else's fun, you're doing it right, whether that's min/maxing, picking powers only because they sound cool, role playing, speed task forcing, pick up groups, farming, marketeering, whatever. I'm having fun.
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
Videos of Other Stupid Scrapper Tricks
Yea... I was wondering about those Devouring Earth in the tips mission. I went in and was shocked to see all these friggin plant things with no eyes treating me like a pin cushion.
They really didn't miss... wow that was nasty. And totally unexpected from beings without... eyes. I may be stuck taking the Cardiac Incarnate. My build is too end heavy right now.... but it is strong, and has good damage. The 'acceptance' of taking the Endurance Incarnate opens up a new possibility for my slotting though. If Endurance was zero concern, I made a fun 'build' with that idea in mind. Here's what I came up with if I went with the Endurance Alpha: |
You choose Grant cover and i'm not a fan of it, i desactivated it so the end consumption isn't that bad anymore, removed all slots from boxing and replaced them in super jump, laser beam eye (taken in place of conserve power) and still keeps the same ranged defense, the others go in tough for AoE def and resist (sitting at 38% s/l now).
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1606;781;1562;HEX;| |78DAA594D94E1A511880CFB0882CC3808AB8038A8A2023B8245D9236B1B649A3B4A| |6A817ADAD99CA285309900113BCEB03D847B0BD696DFB084DDFA4E90B74D1F6BE0B| |FD970149BCEC24FCDF39FF7ACE7FCE21D758F109F1FCA690FCB74A5AADB693DF35B| |56A5537BB738775AD6E54CA81BC69341A95727459ABE9D17975C92584186CB9EDE4| |F492AEAB2B9A79C0C348DBB2A2EFE9E59AAEE68B865E2AB4A6C1BBE5A26EEAE5BAD| |A1AF8D62B9592BAA66B55A3BC2FD3E48EB15FACC34C69990ABA592B1A550FCDF355| |5D2F046F578D5D75B95238DAC969B5BA6E1E0DC0BA96E067E202E96B3AC4944D88A| |CB04D13BA9384FE14612A41F0C8E02991BB530460302D6C2142579F840EBE5981E8| |B11006E5A8A8B9AC2088929A94C8F18BF19B6BFD25F4FD218C093BA5825A76AEE5B| |0AF52F6AE35AAE5BF4FB3408E718FD00F459CEC2E397931E910E1102C2EABBC4BB6| |E38A3C0AE3A1C07C7DDB84989F94B14734F3427937E7B3B9ADCD0508D39C5606072| |FA795BC29DAAF9F214135992D426EC227FC30552489344A8C7B034E41CE2F82AC52| |C0ABD7DA422F97CC722D3B3887ACBE87E6A93D238B64896508530BBCB42C21394F7| |04054D88A0A2BA41AF033BC1C25739487A3B85603A206E9BC9ACEC1331BB664E80B| |E32B61EC1B21FE9D903E278C43D4B0B5F6616EC30823EC423B5B463FF1097F261C8| |125621D4C648F9CA3FB8C22C320CC3C23A40F0841E8D2B81535CEF767826FD3045F| |A309BE6271BE4D71BE4D3D1035699DC9649C126D802161254ABC26E799378C5342F| |22D61F61DE33DE11412A5AC734B4529D126245239914D3D21D5DC4BC62B42006232| |560B327CD6D9553E4547FBFD093124B0536B9DAA34A9D61DED0724A414A9228EF64| |BFCAFEF83AF95C7FDC0037203C53A08690B47DB281EE3F4098E341C3D45B18BD3E6| |475F6BADCA155CD05514D7505C47110A8038464F17BE142F0A1F0A19851F8582228| |0A217C5108A13144D3704DB79D3CD332C69355DE29E9C77AA12A4FA71A1B24937E8| |AF67768B9FD126E167A7C331FFBFBD20CCF149663A7B4F2F37794993BDA459BCA45| |9B8A4B9E8F83F65B323DC| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Hi _Elektro_, here is your test build with some changes i did.
You choose Grant cover and i'm not a fan of it, i desactivated it so the end consumption isn't that bad anymore, removed all slots from boxing and replaced them in super jump, laser beam eye (taken in place of conserve power) and still keeps the same ranged defense, the others go in tough for AoE def and resist (sitting at 38% s/l now). Code:
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1606;781;1562;HEX;| |78DAA594D94E1A511880CFB0882CC3808AB8038A8A2023B8245D9236B1B649A3B4A| |6A817ADAD99CA285309900113BCEB03D847B0BD696DFB084DDFA4E90B74D1F6BE0B| |FD970149BCEC24FCDF39FF7ACE7FCE21D758F109F1FCA690FCB74A5AADB693DF35B| |56A5537BB738775AD6E54CA81BC69341A95727459ABE9D17975C92584186CB9EDE4| |F492AEAB2B9A79C0C348DBB2A2EFE9E59AAEE68B865E2AB4A6C1BBE5A26EEAE5BAD| |A1AF8D62B9592BAA66B55A3BC2FD3E48EB15FACC34C69990ABA592B1A550FCDF355| |5D2F046F578D5D75B95238DAC969B5BA6E1E0DC0BA96E067E202E96B3AC4944D88A| |CB04D13BA9384FE14612A41F0C8E02991BB530460302D6C2142579F840EBE5981E8| |B11006E5A8A8B9AC2088929A94C8F18BF19B6BFD25F4FD218C093BA5825A76AEE5B| |0AF52F6AE35AAE5BF4FB3408E718FD00F459CEC2E397931E910E1102C2EABBC4BB6| |E38A3C0AE3A1C07C7DDB84989F94B14734F3427937E7B3B9ADCD0508D39C5606072| |FA795BC29DAAF9F214135992D426EC227FC30552489344A8C7B034E41CE2F82AC52| |C0ABD7DA422F97CC722D3B3887ACBE87E6A93D238B64896508530BBCB42C21394F7| |04054D88A0A2BA41AF033BC1C25739487A3B85603A206E9BC9ACEC1331BB664E80B| |E32B61EC1B21FE9D903E278C43D4B0B5F6616EC30823EC423B5B463FF1097F261C8| |125621D4C648F9CA3FB8C22C320CC3C23A40F0841E8D2B81535CEF767826FD3045F| |A309BE6271BE4D71BE4D3D1035699DC9649C126D802161254ABC26E799378C5342F| |22D61F61DE33DE11412A5AC734B4529D126245239914D3D21D5DC4BC62B42006232| |560B327CD6D9553E4547FBFD093124B0536B9DAA34A9D61DED0724A414A9228EF64| |BFCAFEF83AF95C7FDC0037203C53A08690B47DB281EE3F4098E341C3D45B18BD3E6| |475F6BADCA155CD05514D7505C47110A8038464F17BE142F0A1F0A19851F8582228| |0A217C5108A13144D3704DB79D3CD332C69355DE29E9C77AA12A4FA71A1B24937E8| |AF67768B9FD126E167A7C331FFBFBD20CCF149663A7B4F2F37794993BDA459BCA45| |9B8A4B9E8F83F65B323DC| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |
Those changes are interesting and actually an overall improvement in the build, including some nicer resist numbers, but the problem I'm having right now is endurance in longer fights. This build actually has higher endurance consumption.
Also, if I deactivate 'grant cover' do I still get the effects of Shield Wall?
Nekron: Beam Rifle / Poison Corruptor and Slayer of Evil!! (Exalted)
Intergalaktic: Fire / Time Corruptor (Exalted)
Thanks,
Those changes are interesting and actually an overall improvement in the build, including some nicer resist numbers, but the problem I'm having right now is endurance in longer fights. This build actually has higher endurance consumption. Also, if I deactivate 'grant cover' do I still get the effects of Shield Wall? |
I still have the same problem with my own DM/SD scrapper, end consumption talking, so i'm leading to cardiac alpha slot to compensate. I hope it'll work that way.
Elektro you will lose alittle bit in terms of resistance but will also lower your end consumption in this build. Also you will not have the recharge necessary to run the highest dark attack chain.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.91
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Srixxon Base 2.5: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Hectmb-Dam%(23), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Rchg+(7), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(13), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Aegis-ResDam(19)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(5), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(5), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-%Dam(31)
Level 4: True Grit -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(15), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(46), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- HO:Golgi(A), HO:Golgi(11), HO:Golgi(11), HO:Nucle(21), HO:Nucle(34), HO:Nucle(34)
Level 10: Battle Agility -- HO:Enzym(A), LkGmblr-Def(13), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40), SW-ResDam/Re TP(50)
Level 12: Active Defense -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(15)
Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 22: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(29), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Aegis-ResDam(39), GA-End/Res(40), GA-3defTpProc(43)
Level 24: Weave -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(25), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(25), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(40), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg(27), Erad-Acc/Rchg(27), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(31), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Erad-%Dam(46)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 30: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-ResKB(31)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Mako-Dam%(46)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 38: One with the Shield -- Heal-I(A)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(42), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(43), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(45), GSFC-Build%(45)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 47: Laser Beam Eyes -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- EndRdx-I(A)
------------
Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(45), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(48)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(48), P'Shift-End%(48)
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1615;778;1556;HEX;| |78DAA5945B4F1341148067BB5B4BEF2D50CABD5C0A94962E2D9788686282D544A14| |A2CF0A492950E74A5699B6D49CA9B3FC0274DF4893745FD09C67F62FC035E40DFBD| |D433E74C0BA18F6EC2F966CE9C5BCF99215BCF78187B7A9D29BE1B45A35ADDCEED5| |846A5C2AD8EEC41CDA899E552206799F57AB934B26254F9C89CBEE8608CF535CDB6| |B3BCC8B99E31AC7D5A465A2719BECB4B55AEE70A262FE69BDBE0ED52815BBC54D39| |B0BCF7AB95CD4D7B851314B7B5EDCDC32F70A35D8F99B47796E550B66C585FB5C85| |F37CF066C5DCD157CAF9C3EDAC51AD71EBB017EA5A843F4B14885F43639336C6D2C| |C3685E888237A1288C918C2E5054B05CDED2CA0A07937E25208E149213AE7090B80| |2156754827F0521A1848FB45F84DB9FE22BAFF2086998AA120974AB934759592AC0| |1A698EF1EEE0259C25D440F24B193B9CD4EA525A9B434957600060E59856309A031| |E6BAC0EE6BC4D10B74432D4E0AAE3A2F0B9DCA3C147D8AA2A757B1682F18BA2989E| |25E26679FA402D9BD74C6BC0DF8980FB67E45418D7F9461CBC02848995890547EB0| |EA92AA2ECAA6825548CE2114C6260F52E747A9F3930B545C1AAB8ACF2134F00A4BA| |FB01F0D7A7D04377979C9CB858853AE3A78F5E1FC1AF6BE139BC8D5FF85F01531FC| |0D11FD8E489E22C6C06B408E632081BF63909026841DC28C3A35F48906FF1971082| |71139A8C82E1A8FEC110A041331FD0491DC4704A14B63D26B8CAED5385DB271BA5D| |E374F3A274C9A274C93AC16B42CE64228A8136E0202603C55EA3F1F41BC23122FE1| |631F38EF01E710C811272488957A8DA8440BA8CAD1F61EC0058A5A42A45D31DD45A| |2F90B17E269AB2765E9544D5BAD67A424C49A02AA2B5DEE27F7D1F3CCD38CEFB2E9| |01B42AC8350B6C4EA81100FC5F691581962F558881DB16D7CF4346BF52F8982AE08| |B12CC45521420110CF84A5433C0BB7101E21BC42F884F00B1110A24B887E218E846| |838C159A51FDD381129657F15EAC9E979550C553FCE5436E50EBE8B994DBCC5B35B| |889F6706AAF29CFEC3BD40CCBE24D0EC52E747806F35DEA649B76916DA34F36D9AB| |3C6FF031813239D| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
Here i am again, to post my build to be criticized . After reading this post and others, playing with my and your templates for some time now, here is what i've done best so far.
I've lost the Fire PPP for Body Mastery to handle the extensive sloting of some powers.
What can be improved to your judgment ? Still without purple or PVP sets, i just can't afford them right now :/
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,91
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(7), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Mako-Dam%(50)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(3), LkGmblr-Def(7), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(46), Aegis-ResDam(48), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(50)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(17), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Oblit-%Dam(46)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(9), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def(27), RedFtn-EndRdx(27), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(9), HO:Nucle(13), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(15)
Level 10: True Grit -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(11), Numna-Heal/Rchg(11), RgnTis-Regen+(23), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(34)
Level 12: Active Defense -- HO:Enzym(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(48), Zephyr-ResKB(48)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(25), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Oblit-%Dam(45)
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 24: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(39), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(39), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(39), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(40), GSFC-Build%(40)
Level 28: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(29), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(29), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Aegis-ResDam(50)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42), LkGmblr-Def(43)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 38: Grant Cover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 47: Stealth -- Empty(A)
Level 49: One with the Shield -- ResDam-I(A)
------------
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Numna-Heal/Rchg(25), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(31), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(37), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(5), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(5), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(31), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(42), P'Shift-End%(42)
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1589;764;1528;HEX;| |78DAA594594F534114C7E7B6B796B6F776014AD94B59642FAD605CA389A209094D9| |0024F2AB9B4437BA5294D5B95BEF9017C72E3C93745FD08C66FA27E059777D4EB59| |A605D3476FE0FC66CE9C3373E63F33CD1C2C1B423CB92EB4E0CD9255AB6D677355A| |B5291554FC62AD839E11542F4357DDB19599232B96C55F7B8196F8D2CCB5D59AEC9| |64B668CB52BED98DAC948BB22ACBF564B361ACEDEF9792ABD2AAD8E5829F3AD98A9| |479939AB7ED42B10E0311EAAD941FD9357BC72ED9F546E456C5CE256FECE71BDB19| |AB5697D5462F54761EFEAB58227D8E47EC022685AB00488B334542D026743E20A4F| |7087E13A0A9ACA8862E579870A69B309F222C2C11D26942CDAB92204B3B76093124| |C2BF5C38D2FD9BF18730E310E6851B1180B5DC6A2DB79F26EA0810C206A13FC8081| |11226A107D6F27096E6E10AE7B8B48730C29B7674EF5580EE161D8A46931B141ABC| |4330A0021FCFA5FB36C9E5E7117F9617BBA6E16612318209E1010E17810B3C610C5| |634795197F999B6B7F085F1951084D190A651522841223F869C0809E67822C714D5| |CB720DB35C93FFC835C7728560A22EB57A176F7C14268A2A2DA2B334770FC305233| |12E4BC41CF8C40178FA481FC7D3F786263EFB9671C478C76BBF677C20B821614029| |34C0473FC8673E788EB55FE48BC0F74187F0210E770D718DD37C7D66F88C1A10105| |76714CFD3AD1CB1A8E2911D468E90908408EC79545DAC51566A8C951A63A5C658A9| |71566A9C950A43D684DAFC045791858129E59A62898E206A56E9397B4897D684EA9| |22A2A49AA7542504A7952739437A8B71E16FC61D06A9B674D6F3D08A19127AEB71E| |D67F7D1F8DE63CBE753FD80D346B60B42D6CDD45730FBBF7B165616B074D0EBBCE2| |7A35969E822167409CD653457D044C3609E62A437002680C64063A209A209A109A3| |E942D38FE6351AC707C96EDEB3F30D9754DA6AF324DBF7D3AE2972FD387179B44D7| |A629DEB745CBDFCFC86F9318E6FF14F0FBFDD9FA7B39ED1B9EBCF19AFF811BD204C| |BF641C12526D6734D3E649B77996DA3C8B6D9E93B3F90B14102FFC| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Nice so with my new Hasten-less Incarnate build I will have enough recharge to run MG>SM>SP>SL>SM>SP with the VRAS Spiritual CP. I wish there was a chain that spammed SL more but required around the same recharge.
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
Alright I know this sounds crazy but I am making a build to solo the Apex TF without inspirations. If you all can look over my build and see if there is anything that can be changed let me know. Right now I'd really like to focus on lowering my endurance usage while maintaining my recharge bonuses. It is built for 59% defense to all positions while maintaining a 94.25% DDR with double stacked AD slotted with 3 L52+ Membrane Exposures I don't think I will have permanent double stacked though, if I am reading this right I will have a 40 second period where it will not be double stacked which will be scary........
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1621;767;1534;HEX;| |78DAA5945953134110C767B31B6392DD1C84704304E50A2626802587A5558A5481C| |442823C28905AC292ACA492B81B90F8E407F0C9F3C93745FD08969FC9E3DD63EDE9| |9E04CA3C9A2AFEBF99FFF474CF4EEF92395A50197B7A9D49819B25DDB673D9BCA55| |7AB86E5B9A3D70E2CBDE4CB1C5879D328E9858A8731D6DD58CF658C92612417746B| |9F86B1E6CA82B167946D23992DC2BEDDC634BC542E1A9651AE251B0375B55229255| |70CBD6A960B1A4E16CD42B106B330CE96CA87A66DEE9825B3560F3682770DCB2E9A| |D5F0ADAA994FDEA8ECD67319DDAE1956BD0B8E7719FE1EF173E2CF71B3FB8051A63| |C400436095B88D0362187F069000977C9EC0A4091994B50E984857E766652E6B03C| |2210F24B94BF8DF2B753FE76CADF41F93B28BF1FF2CB945F91DB61906667A288B38| |B32621931701BD10145DC142EB9295CA5F00358F188F29E3DC6AD9102A188183509| |0F09FB080DCA7B6997CB3B478FE5FB872AC4F8A9A6DB7F178B9D5B236409EB88C17| |B840D840B0EA35166A6F560B100CC8392845670102D1BA2C214A5840FD11A7C8C38| |7F44A8139E20829021424761117A6E193244C5054653685D4813260953889169840| |2E19D14EEEA147DECA28B1CA0844710D18D9D7494EE1917B77A66097388BE79C4C5| |AB080DC27B45477A45C2846018D6FAC55ABFF00604EBB01613FD8A51BFC6A95FE3D| |4AF71EA579CFA15A77E85E10286C4AEA19F78804BBF08BF097F106987C0F0AD8940| |AD61B16BF81DAEC4DFD3431C133E20121F69D7274416F68E890E8E4D60F963283F2| |1EE7FE21ABEFD21B092C24AD20DB68195121B530EFC589FD2FCF618A39761E5B495| |406B55697E414CA28231A5F9F9FDD7EFB3DAC8E35DF381AE7359059136F86893CB1| |69F6EF391CE473B5CF27CEA7C511B670DCEF003CD7299E332CF251A0279C6233D7E| |103F17958BC625C025C825C425C2A587CB5B2E8E1736CBF4D0CE575E52DCA54477F| |2EDB43586D6F7134B929624FE5F24B18CF871B2E2969E63135D2F10EA4B44DB2B44| |D76B7A91DFB8780753AD9D88B75AE9566BBAD59A6AB54E9AF01779AB0FD8| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
Doesn't the defense from Stealth suppress in combat?
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
Videos of Other Stupid Scrapper Tricks
Aww come on that is lame, looks like I'll have to switch to hover?! Barf
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
Ugh that totally messes up my build now. I wonder if taunt aura counts as attacking
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
Ugh that totally messes up my build now. I wonder if taunt aura counts as attacking
|
Oh, and I think only half the defense from Stealth suppresses, but that still leaves you with the same problem of being a few percentage points under the Apex soft cap.
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
Videos of Other Stupid Scrapper Tricks
Alright I know this sounds crazy but I am making a build to solo the Apex TF without inspirations. |
Frankly, the Apex softcap should be the least of your concerns here. I don't see any melee AT soloing that TF, with or without insps, until we get a wee bit more powerful with the Incarnate system.
(Might be already possible with the usual ranged suspects, but even then... You have to find 7 level 50 willing to help you start it, including one who's going to keep the character on team. Not an easy task by any means.)
To do that you'd have to kill a level 54 AV, along with unresistable autohit damage patches dealing about 600 damage per second each (I think? I'm always more worried about not getting in than getting a close look at the numbers, but the final patches feel like one tick of ~240 and one tick of 80 every half second or so), and I assume those patches would be centered on you every single time if you'd be alone, stacking multiple times and not letting you into melee for more than a few seconds before you'd have to move away.
Frankly, the Apex softcap should be the least of your concerns here. I don't see any melee AT soloing that TF, with or without insps, until we get a wee bit more powerful with the Incarnate system. (Might be already possible with the usual ranged suspects, but even then... You have to find 7 level 50 willing to help you start it, including one who's going to keep the character on team. Not an easy task by any means.) |
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
I'm going to guess "yes", since it interrupts things, but don't know for certain. I've never taken Stealth.
Oh, and I think only half the defense from Stealth suppresses, but that still leaves you with the same problem of being a few percentage points under the Apex soft cap. |
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
....
I will admit, the character has end issues. I hate that. But I'm running a lot of toggles, and sometimes when Hasten drops, or OwtS, I have had my toggles drop! Nasty! Even conserve power requires end... and I find I have to cycle Conserve Power throughout mobs, with my old build I did'nt have to... I may have to fix that. I can't imagine using the Endurance incarnate... it just feels wasteful.