...people still do that?
People still do hunts?
The one and only thing, bar the horrible hospital location in Mercy, that bugs me about 1 to around 6.
Especially when it's a higher conning mob. Sometimes you just thing 'Hell, let's do this' and proceed to lob yourself into a spawn that will, most likely, be a close one.
Now, some people help. Like actually help. Like defenders/Corrs lobbing buffs and heals onto you, things that wont actually affect the mob itself. Thats helpful.
But what isn't is people jumping in and hitting on your fight, and its worse when you've just got the boss/LT down to a small chunk of health, and then someone dives in and 'helps'. Helps themselves to the exp.
It's not like pre-10 you should need help, given theres no debt.And maybe it's a silly stance to take, but it's one of those little bugbears that differs from person to person.
And you can nearly guarentee, at least blueside, that when you do get stuck with a hunt mission someone will nab kills off you 
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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What can we say? Galaxy City never seems to have those idiots. That's why it gets used as a starting zone by players wanting to avoid those situations.
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Originally Posted by Quinch
What can I say, I'm a completionist.
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XP is based on damage done - if you did 90% of the damage to the mob, you get 90% of the xp, regardless who did the other 10%.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
But what isn't is people jumping in and hitting on your fight, and its worse when you've just got the boss/LT down to a small chunk of health, and then someone dives in and 'helps'. Helps themselves to the exp.
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ANd if you scored sopme damage ... is it 25% of the thing's hit points?... you get a "defeat" credited (as i n Defeat 10 Wossnames) regardless of who delivers the finishing move.|
Originally Posted by Silver Gale
XP is based on damage done - if you did 90% of the damage to the mob, you get 90% of the xp, regardless who did the other 10%.
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About the only completely stealable reward is the goody you may get from the victim of a villainous attack after dispatching the last mob in a spawn. Those kudos go to the character that finishes the last opponent.
Doesn't make unwanted KSing, intrusion on a private fight ("The Marquess of Queensbury rules will be observed at all times. I thank yez." - Barry Fitzgerald, "The Quiet Man") any less irritating, to be sure.
My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.
If you mean that Vanguard SG, yeah, they've been dirty KSers from the get.
My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.
Not... quite what I meant either, and I think it might be bad form to name names in the forums...
I don't mind an occasional "kill steal" - I'm just happy to see other heroes and villains on the street for a change.
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I got this last night, sorta!
Actually the level 50 Thermal who healed & buffed my struggling level 11 Claws/Elec was fine, his buffs were great. That big n00b of a Mu Guardian pet had with him though. Damn killstealer. I tried to send it a tell and all but it just ignored me 
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This isn't quite perfect though.|
Originally Posted by Silver Gale
XP is based on damage done - if you did 90% of the damage to the mob, you get 90% of the xp, regardless who did the other 10%.
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If I hold a group of enemies, and am slowly killing them, then some blaster comes in and fireballs them, he gets the majority of the xp even though I was the reason he got no return fire.
By "Vanguard SG", I'm guessing he's referring to the Vanguard NPCs in the RWZ, not any player SG.
Cause yeah, those guys are a bunch of dirty KSers
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Jessie Inferno: 50 Fire/SD scrapper
a wizard: 50 Rad/Sonic defender
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Ahh. Nah, I'm talking about those old jerks. I16 drew them out of their holes, I guess.
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Originally Posted by Shortspark
By "Vanguard SG", I'm guessing he's referring to the Vanguard NPCs in the RWZ, not any player SG.
Cause yeah, those guys are a bunch of dirty KSers |
And the killer gets the credit towards a hunt mission.
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I generally play Scrappers and Blasters, so not alot of buffing help (although I do throw my Mystic Fortune around as fast as it cools off)|
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Now, some people help. Like actually help. Like defenders/Corrs lobbing buffs and heals onto you, things that wont actually affect the mob itself. Thats helpful.
But what isn't is people jumping in and hitting on your fight, and its worse when you've just got the boss/LT down to a small chunk of health, and then someone dives in and 'helps'. Helps themselves to the exp. |
If I'm going to "help" someone, I usually take a look at how the fight's going. If there's still three mobs left and the hero's got 10% hp left? Yeah, I'll jump in. (Of course, taking that time to check sometimes ends up in the guy dying.)
Re: loot goes to the killing blow.... the one time I helped someone, and ended up getting a rare salvage, I chased him down and traded it to him.
The only time it bugs me is when someone's doing it deliberately - generally they're in the high 40s-50, running around a lowbie zone being a nuisance.
It's rare. And I still give them the benefit of the doubt - the first time - and send them a tell saying "Thanks, but I don't need the help." Sometimes it's a genuine mistake (not seeing you around a corner.) Other times, they spit back some poorly spelled reply and do it again - in which case, /petition, add note, /ignore, wait them out, and go on about your business.
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Originally Posted by Prof_Backfire
...people still do that?
People still do hunts? |
Yup. on all the content that the devs never bothered to update. Once upon a time, they used to make content. But that was a long time ago.
I think some of the problem is people coming from wow and the like. Where the first person to hit the mob "tags" it and gets the xp/loot no matter who kills it.
Lots of 50's yada yada. still finding fun things to do.
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Yes. Doesn't happen often, but on occasion I'll be hunting with one of my lower toons (say, level 20) and a much higher level will drive by and wipe out a spawn. And I'll think, "what the...?" I don't think I've ever encountered someone doing it more than once though.|
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
The only time it bugs me is when someone's doing it deliberately - generally they're in the high 40s-50, running around a lowbie zone being a nuisance.
It's rare. And I still give them the benefit of the doubt - the first time - and send them a tell saying "Thanks, but I don't need the help." Sometimes it's a genuine mistake (not seeing you around a corner.) Other times, they spit back some poorly spelled reply and do it again - in which case, /petition, add note, /ignore, wait them out, and go on about your business. |
edit: I actually like to hunt some of the time. It can be a pretty good test to see where you are and what you can handle. Try different level mobs, different spawn sizes, bosses, etc w/o messing with mission settings. And sometimes it's just relaxing running around a deserted part of IP beating up Tsoo.
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An humorous reference to the Vanguard NPCs. Alas, once again I have failed to amuse.
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Originally Posted by Quinch
Not... quite what I meant either, and I think it might be bad form to name names in the forums...
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My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.
Ok, so I bit with the new alt thing and made a Rad/MM blaster, in Atlas none the less. I was going for the yellow/orange mobs to level faster... when outta no where comes this blast to the mob I was working on. I look and it's a lvl 14 blasting my mobs.
*le sigh*
I tell him to not do that.
Him: y
Me: 1, you don't get any xp from it and 2 you are stopping me from getting any xp.
Him: so? I like Atlas.
Me: go to Steel or somewhere else.
Him: I'm capped on my trial and like atlas.
So, I run away and try blasting another mob while he's typing.
Then again "Blam!!"
WT*
Dude, I already told you to stop.
"y?"
You wanna get reported?
"no"
Then stop.
He stopped after I told him that, thankfully.
"every defender needs to fight. I don't care if you have to use BRAWL!"
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Three months ago is a long time?
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Originally Posted by hedgehog_NA
Once upon a time, they used to make content. But that was a long time ago.
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You talkin about that new SG that like just appeared? What are they called? Oh yeah 5th Column? Cause they were seriously messing with me Wednesday night!
I'd find a nice bunch of Council and would land a hit then WHAM! They just appear outta no where and kilsteal all my Council!
I want those big ole cannons tho!
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You know the type, the kind that just swoops in the moment they see you eying a particular mob and just swarm over it before you can so much as blink, let alone get a hit in before pounding them into oblivion and denying you the XP, influence, drops and most importantly credit for the kill for the endless stream of hunts my contacts seem to have prepared for me. They're showing up wherever I go, whatever zone I'm in or neighborhood and it's starting to tick me off. It's not enough they had to kill Atlas, oh no, now they have to mess with my hunts too.
Jerks.