Please Lift Name Restrictions
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Posted on: 2009-09-17 08:47 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I'd love to see non-unique naming.
And the totally self-righteous "use a dictionary, be more original" cult of people would just have to deal with it.
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I'll still use my dictionaries, and still come up with better names |
Originally Posted by Johnny_Velocity
I'd love to see non-unique naming.
And the totally self-righteous "use a dictionary, be more original" cult of people would just have to deal with it. |
Although, I might end up duping some of my characters names (I already have a Kitsune Knight on guardian that's level 22, and thought of a better character for that concept I wanted to make on that server with the same name
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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I don't think that's a very good idea. Aside from the issues the others mentioned, there's also the potential problem of someone rolling a character with the same name as one they don't like and griefing all over the place to get him in trouble.
But soon I'll be facing the same conundrum with the Ice/Cold controller I plan on making. I have everything settled but the name. I was going to say that there are only so many variations on "Ice Girl" you can have before running out, but the name generator posted earlier in the thread just proved me wrong.
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Originally Posted by NightshadeLegree
There are those rare moments of unexpected glee when you half heartedly check a name you know must have been taken, only to get the 'This character name is available' message.
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One year ago, after CoH/V had been out for over four years, I created an Ice Dominator named Cryonics. I was absolutely stunned the name wasn't taken. And tickled out of my mind at the same time.
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We have no way of knowing when they run the name purge script, or how many times they have done it.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I think they might do another name purge just before GR goes live.
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When they reinstated the policy (and changed the cutoff from lv35 to lv5), they told us the only announcement we'd get is if the policy changes. They might be running the script every time the server goes down for maintenance, or they may have never run it since the policy change. We have no way of knowing.
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I doubt I would quit the CoH over it, but I don't want to see it happen here.|
Originally Posted by Bounder
The main reason I'll not play Champions is the no unique names feature they have. If they do that here, instant uninstall. Just one person's personal preference, but thought I'd cast my vote anyway, as seeing the suggestion to remove the restriction gave me a gross feeling, ick.
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I really don't want to play in a game when I look down the street and 6 or 8 characters have the same name.
It tends to be that people that can't take time to think up an original name will all pick the same few names that they think are original - but obviously aren't if they have already been picked.
I don't have a problem picking new names. I can pick original ones. I can even pick ones that are pretty obvious and I figure would have been picked before.
I'm sorry that the OP has been having a hard time getting the name that they want that is already taken.
If you really want that name, try a different server.
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One of the hallmarks of the superhero genre is the uniqueness of the characters. Each has a distinct name, look, powers, style. Some teams with similar uniforms or similar powers have declined in popularity while the mixed teams of very different characters thrive.|
Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic
I doubt I would quit the CoH over it, but I don't want to see it happen here.
I really don't want to play in a game when I look down the street and 6 or 8 characters have the same name. |
In other genres, we know in our heart of hearts that if 007 goes down, somewhere there's a 008. If Sgt. Rock takes a does of Nazi lead, Sgt. Smith or Sgt. Jones will be called up from the replacement pool. If the Shaolin priest fails to dodge, or chooses to stand still and accept death, his temple has a dozen earnest acolytes in training.
But there's only one Professor X, by God, and the world needs him. There's only one Dardevil -- if he perishes, no one else will help Hell's Kitchen. There's only one Dark Knight between Gotham and mayhem.
And that's part of the reason we're here.
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Just cause I want to see what you come up with - Silent Death (Stalker)
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Originally Posted by Obsidius
I have a better idea. I'll consider it a challenge. Give me a name you want to use, and I'll give you at least three alternatives.
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Bring on the wall!!!!
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Miran Kraj (Croatian)|
Originally Posted by Ice_Basher
Just cause I want to see what you come up with - Silent Death (Stalker)
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Callado Muerte (Spanish)
Todestagstill (German)
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This is so true, this is near the top of my list of things I want Cox to copy from Champs. I'm not having too much of a problem coming up with my own new names but the people I team with seem to be having some serious problems, teaming with P U L V E R I Z E R and H U R R I C A N E is a little immersion breaking.|
Originally Posted by ChaosExMachina
CO does this and it works marvelously. I have yet to see 2 people with the same name, but you do not have to reserve names or compete with a person who quit 5 years ago. Globals are a superior way of keeping track of people even here, and at CO having the global show in text is not intrusive because they make it subtle.
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Hero1 did an interview year or two ago about wishing to develop a system similar to the Champs naming system so players from different servers could play together in a shared shard. Hmm I wonder if this is where Cryptic got the idea for their naming system from.
Two things that I'm wishing we get along with the GR expansion is the champs naming system and an expansion of the number of character slots per server.
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Nice one RM, liking the Spanish one, though the Croatian one is very tempting. I like using language translation to pick up a name, mainly Spanish, German or Japanese. Sometimes it can work out really well.
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Originally Posted by Rusted_Metal
Miran Kraj (Croatian)
Callado Muerte (Spanish) Todestagstill (German) |
Bring on the wall!!!!
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I think it is safe to say that it has not been run for at least 650 days.|
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
We have no way of knowing when they run the name purge script, or how many times they have done it.
When they reinstated the policy (and changed the cutoff from lv35 to lv5), they told us the only announcement we'd get is if the policy changes. They might be running the script every time the server goes down for maintenance, or they may have never run it since the policy change. We have no way of knowing. |
Why?
The throw-away names I used for the padding characters in my trial accounts I created back when that big SG Prestige Grant went through still show as in use. And those characters have not been logged in in the past 650 days. (Don't worry. They are names no one would want... Pony-01, Pony-02, Claymore-03, Scoundrel-05, Shareholder-09, etc...)
Dammit, Shareholder-09 was the one I wanted for a good robot gone bad!
I personally find the fact I can't have certain names more of a challenge for me in the creation process. There has been only a handful of times in my (near) 4 years that I've had a name I wanted not available, but I found alternatives and I've actually ended liking them more than my original concept.
Of course this is down to my experience only and my rather disturbing Angelo-Germanic-French-Latin-Mythological-Demonological-Whacky naming conventions.
I admit I do find it disheartending still to see folks that find the name Star is taken and decide to take xXxStarxXx instead of finding a synonym or in some cases just affixing a title, e.g. Lord Star, Lady Star, Marquis Star, etc. But again, that would be a preference of mine..sure you're Star, but dammit I'm the Arch-Duchess Star! pewpewpew...
Okay a bit over the top, but sometimes the smallest change helps me form an even better story and character. In a lot of cases the background of a name that means nothing to anyone but me and some linguistic-etymologist nerdlinger that spies my name flying overhead in St. Martial.
On the case of Champions and not seeing the same name twice - I've seen the same name plenty of times and not just Steel Man or HOLK or Ultraman, one name that stands out is Nocturna, namely because I saw it on three people during the space a few hours, one in tutorial, one in the Desert Crisis and one in the Desert regular, totally different people and just plain kooky to boot!
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At one point, I thought I remembered them discussing introducing an autopurge system If I recall, it would put your character names into the "Available" name pool (but not rename your toons) if your account had not logged into that server for 90 days (don't remember the exact duration, but I believe it was 90 days). If no one grabbed the name, your characters would stay as is If someone did take a name you were using, your character would be Generic Named and you would get a free rename token. By doing it that way, it wasn't necessary for you to login to every character you had As long as you logged into your account at all, your names were safe.
Not sure what ever happened to that idea, or whether the entire thing was just some odd dream I had and never actually happened.
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Originally Posted by Frosty_Femme
I said "ur" which is not a word. It's a sound dumb people make when you ask them to spell out "you are".
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More likely, you're just misremembering or misunderstanding the way the name reclaim script works|
Originally Posted by Garielle
Not sure what ever happened to that idea, or whether the entire thing was just some odd dream I had and never actually happened.
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- If your account is inactive (as in, unpaid, you can't log in inactive) for 90 days,
- If your character is level 5 or below,
- If they decide to run the name reclaim script (and as I mentioned before, they don't have to tell us when they're doing this),
Then the character's name is marked as being available. If a character's name is marked as available, someone can use that name on a new character (or for a name change). The name remains marked as available until you log in to that character.
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That just caused me to run a random name check. If anyone is looking for a good name for some sort of Plant Dominator on Virtue, Marquis de Sod is available. |
Originally Posted by Drakmarth
Dammit, Shareholder-09 was the one I wanted for a good robot gone bad!
I personally find the fact I can't have certain names more of a challenge for me in the creation process. There has been only a handful of times in my (near) 4 years that I've had a name I wanted not available, but I found alternatives and I've actually ended liking them more than my original concept. Of course this is down to my experience only and my rather disturbing Angelo-Germanic-French-Latin-Mythological-Demonological-Whacky naming conventions. I admit I do find it disheartending still to see folks that find the name Star is taken and decide to take xXxStarxXx instead of finding a synonym or in some cases just affixing a title, e.g. Lord Star, Lady Star, Marquis Star |
Pity Pain Domination is not available as a Dom secondary.
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You've obviously never run into Illusion Patrol, or any of the other similarly named supergroups, where a mix of uppercase I's and lowercase L's allow an entire team of identical characters to have the "same" name.|
Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic
I really don't want to play in a game when I look down the street and 6 or 8 characters have the same name.
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It was definitely a "What the...?" moment for me the first time I saw one.
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I was able to roll my Arch/TA corruptor yesterday.
And... "Robber Hood" Was not taken! Yessss....
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Nothing of the sort, for me. The moment I saw them, I knew exactly what they were doing, and it was as simple as checking their info where their names are written in all caps. I should just go ahead and user-mod my font to avoid that STUPID problem of similar-looking letters. Honestly, substituting I for l is just low. I'd give more props to the guy called IP II IIVII IP, lame as that may be.|
Originally Posted by Roderick
You've obviously never run into Illusion Patrol, or any of the other similarly named supergroups, where a mix of uppercase I's and lowercase L's allow an entire team of identical characters to have the "same" name.
It was definitely a "What the...?" moment for me the first time I saw one. |
As far as lifting name restrictions goes, no, thank you very much. I saw what that necessitated in Champions Online and I am quite honestly not interested in having all my chat come out as:
[Team]Xanta@Samuel Tow: Why does my global name always come attached?
It looks ugly, it's immersion-breaking, it's aggravating and I plain don't want to see it. Names are not that hard to come by if you're not too hung up on using the EXACT name you've decided to use. Come on, folks - you can check names before making a character. Use it.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I can't sympathize with this topic much I can't recall the last time I had a problem with finding an unclaimed name. Then again I'm not usuauly looking for simpler names like "FireShot" or whatever. Mine are based on jokes, obscure references and so on (although I was surprised to find out that my AR/Pain Corr's name wasn't already taken:A Shot For The Pain).
And Electrosaurus has an easy fix: "Electrosaurus Rex."
You have the internet at your fingertips, do some random googling, look up foreign languages or anything else that strikes your fancy or enters into your head.
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Velocity
I'd love to see non-unique naming.
And the totally self-righteous "use a dictionary, be more original" cult of people would just have to deal with it. |
Ugh. Multiple players using the same name sounds horrible. What if someone decides to impersonate you to cause grief? Good names are pretty easy to find if you have the sense to look.
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
One of the hallmarks of the superhero genre is the uniqueness of the characters. Each has a distinct name, look, powers, style. Some teams with similar uniforms or similar powers have declined in popularity while the mixed teams of very different characters thrive.
In other genres, we know in our heart of hearts that if 007 goes down, somewhere there's a 008. If Sgt. Rock takes a does of Nazi lead, Sgt. Smith or Sgt. Jones will be called up from the replacement pool. If the Shaolin priest fails to dodge, or chooses to stand still and accept death, his temple has a dozen earnest acolytes in training. But there's only one Professor X, by God, and the world needs him. There's only one Dardevil -- if he perishes, no one else will help Hell's Kitchen. There's only one Dark Knight between Gotham and mayhem. And that's part of the reason we're here. |
Etc, etc.
The evidence actually supports opposite of your assertion - comic book tradition is actually one of multiple heroes having the same name. Sure, each one has had its own conflicts, individuality, and sometimes costumes, but that is what made their stories worth telling.
The same would apply in CoX if it went in that direction - even if you absolutely coveted the name "Johnny Velocity," I'm sure yours would be unique.
I was pretty amazed to find "Nemesis Girl" wasn't taken on Virtue.
That said, I understand how the OP feels.
I have a list of names I want on my friend list, that I keep an eye on. Out of that list (full list btw), only 1 name shows up every now and again.
Even sent a few tells out to the global names. Either they're not replying, or they're not logging in.
Had someone send a tell to my global and asked if I was using the name. I hadn't played the toon in a LONG time, and it wasn't 50, hadnt reached the teen lvls yet...so I said sure.
Might do that. Send the global account a message, see if they wouldn't mind giving up the name.
But I agree. I like to keep to names I would think to find in comics. I was comic book, superhero sounding names. Sadly, alot are taken in both game and in the copyright area
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