Please Lift Name Restrictions


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Please Lift Name Restrictions
<makes a sign that says NAME RESTRICTIONS and lifts it over my head>

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Velocity View Post

Jay Garrick has been active during Wally West's, Bart Allen's, and Barry Allen's runs. (I'm not currently reading JSA or the new Flash title, but I think both Garrick and Allen are active right now.)
All of them with Jay Garrick's blessing. According to the Life Story of the Flash, Barry offered to stop using the name after meeting his childhood hero, the Flash, because he claimed the name without asking. Wally West went through a similar process when Jay Garrick returned to active duty with the JSA. Jay, impressed with Bart's growth from Impulse as Kid Flash, gave his blessing before Bart asked. All of the Flashes, with the exception or Gardner Fox (who was the Flash for, what, six issues), have sought, and met with, Jay Garrick's approval.

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Because we don't have to settle for that. Another competing company has demonstrated that alternatives are available. This a feedback board. Oddly enough, we are actually encouraged to speak out on features we might like to see in this game. I also think it would be positive for the game in terms of subscriptions and subscription retention.
Unproven. I think it bears investigation. Personally, I dislike the notion because it would break immersion for me, and because of possible confusion. If I can't run into another "me," then I can still be the star of my own comic book. If no one else can be "me," then "my" friends don't have to wonder why "I" am hiding from them and ignoring their tells if they run into "me" in game.

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This idea would be especially a good for the casual player who doesn't spend all day at the console, alternating between the forums and his/her dual box. People who live this game are all about first come, first served. But people with other life priorities might see things a little differently.
I've had to fight for quite a few names. It hasn't killed the enjoyment of the game for me. Maybe just a few concepts as a new name sometimes requires a new costume and backstory.

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Now that I've explained that to you, can someone answer my question - why the hate against the idea? Is it just asthetics, or is something else in play?
Mainly aesthetics for me.

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But why would you advocate for any limitations? Why vehemently oppose the change? The thesaurus club can continue to be witty and clever and unique, but more ordinary mortals can also be happy. It would appear that much of the tech is already in place - we have invisible globals already.
Our globals are attached to our accounts. Our names are attached to our accounts. We don't know that our globals are attached to our names, as it has never come up. That is a question for the Devs.


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Originally Posted by Johnny_Velocity View Post
Some folks just want more common everyday names that say "superhero." What is so hard to understand about that?
It's not hard to understand.

However, you probably need to come to a basic understanding that even if they made it possible to have non-unique names, you still might not get what you want. If your argument is based upon "give me what I want!" then accept that this method may not necessarily do so.


 

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This is a bad idea, mostly because of griefers. I spend alot of time developing the rep of my creations, whether for good or ill, and I don't want some other jerk I may make mad in some way, creating a clone of me, and besmirching my name.

And there are plenty of good names out there. I recently got 'Horizon' on Virtue, and he'll be my big project for GR.

But there are names out there I'm looking for that'd I like. They're listed in my sig. I'd like to have them, but I can be patient until they come free, if they ever do. I do agree that a level increase to around 10 would be nice for purges on accounts over 90 days, and a complete wipe of accounts over 4 years inactive.


 

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Originally Posted by Mischief View Post
Over the past 5 years playing CoX, I can't count the number of times I've gotten an idea for a new character and have come up with perfect a concept, costume and name, only to find the name has already been taken.

I would love to see the CoX name monopoly lifted for Issue 17 - or sometime soon.
Who's that one player that has taken over hundreds of thousands of names?!?


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Because we don't have to settle for that. Another competing company has demonstrated that alternatives are available.
You may like that, I find it clunky and annoying, quite honestly - one of many things about that competing product that fell under that category. Apparently inviting me to a team, or chatting, was also made more complex by that little "feature."

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Can I have the name "Memphis Bill" on your home server? I think it's taken, so the source of the restiction is NOT just me. It is the game code (and you, I presume).
First, why would you want that name that's *specifically* not one of the "classic" names? *I* wanted something unique. If I wanted to be dull, I'd have picked, oh, "Fire Tank."

Second, no, I'd prefer not to have others confuse someone else's actions with my own. I'd say people are going to remember the character name over the global if they see something in broadcast - or even over tells or team chat.

Third, spend 30 seconds and come up with *just* how many alternates you can think of that might be somewhat similar. Tennessee William might be frowned on, admittedly. L4D fans might like Chicago Ted. Heck, I've got another called Arkansas Stone - for the state and the tool. So yes, just my having "Memphis Bill" is *not* part of the restriction. Inflexibility on your part in the name you want is.

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But why would you advocate for any limitations? Why vehemently oppose the change? The thesaurus club can continue to be witty and clever and unique, but more ordinary mortals can also be happy. It would appear that much of the tech is already in place - we have invisible globals already.
Coming up with unique, useful names is not difficult. Or are you saying most people are utterly incapable of any flexibility or thought past their initial name selection?


 

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Coming up with unique, useful names is not difficult. Or are you saying most people are utterly incapable of any flexibility or thought past their initial name selection?
Nail, meet head.

Even YOUR name Johnny shows the infinite possibilities... Let's say that Johnny Velocity is taken. I want to make a speedster with a "normal" name and a "speed" name:

Bobby Breakneck
Charlie Chop-Chop
Danny Dashing
Erin Expeditious
Frankie Flash
Hasty Hank
Lisa Lickety
Nathan Nimble
Perry Pronto
Quinton Quick
Richie Rapid
Screamin' Steve


And that's LIMITING myself to VERY specific rules of "normal" name + "fast name" + alliteration and giving it a minute or two of thought.

Anyone that complains about not being able to get an APPROPRIATE name for their character is just simply uncreative. PERIOD.


 

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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post
The main reason I'll not play Champions is the no unique names feature they have. If they do that here, instant uninstall. Just one person's personal preference, but thought I'd cast my vote anyway, as seeing the suggestion to remove the restriction gave me a gross feeling, ick.
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This is a bad idea, mostly because of griefers. I spend alot of time developing the rep of my creations, whether for good or ill, and I don't want some other jerk I may make mad in some way, creating a clone of me, and besmirching my name.

And there are plenty of good names out there. I recently got 'Horizon' on Virtue, and he'll be my big project for GR.

But there are names out there I'm looking for that'd I like. They're listed in my sig. I'd like to have them, but I can be patient until they come free, if they ever do. I do agree that a level increase to around 10 would be nice for purges on accounts over 90 days, and a complete wipe of accounts over 4 years inactive.
You'll never get Phantom Rider, it's a Marvel name.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Rider

Might as well remove that one from the list, it will NEVER be available due to trademark. The others are fine.


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Originally Posted by SwellGuy View Post
But you can ignore people who lie like you are.
Someone anonymously repped me for this as rude and immature. Yet I posted it in public not some weasely anonymous negative rep.

It must be terrible to not get to name your characters Fyre Blastor for so many.


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Velocity View Post
why the hate against the idea? Is it just asthetics, or is something else in play?
Because no matter how many comic book examples you can throw at me, they were created by professional writers, who are paid to do a good job and write an interesting story. They stick within the bounds of the established universe, or with permission extend those bounds (ie: new characters/locations), and they work with other writers of the same universe to attempt to maintain consistency.

Players of an MMO, on the other hand, (to quote a previous signature of PK) have SNAKECAKE.


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You'll never get Phantom Rider, it's a Marvel name.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Rider

Might as well remove that one from the list, it will NEVER be available due to trademark. The others are fine.
It's taken, and I've sent the holder of it a /tell. It may become unavailable if it gets released, but for now, it's taken by someone.

And it'll stay on my list, even if it become unavailable. Hope springs eternal, and all.


 

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Just because I am a comic geek and seeing the errors here bothers me:

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To use your Wildcat example: There have been at least 4 Wildcats in the DC universe. The original Golden Age one. Then there was the Silver Age Wildcat, who happened to be the original's protege. Then you get down to the current Wildcats (of which there are 2). The part you glossed over is that BOTH of the current Wildcats have a connection to the original Golden Age Wildcat.
Technically, this is accurate, the 2 current Wildcats have a connection to the GA Wildcat. But that is because one of them is the GA Wildcat. The Silver Age Wildcat would be better named the Earth-1 Wildcat, he was not a protege of the original, he was the Earth-1 version of the original, who was from Earth-2. Since Crisis on Infinite Earths in 1986, there has only been the original Wildcat, his goddaughter Yolanda (killed by Eclipso) and his son Tom Bronson. The original and his son are both members of the JSA.

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John Henry Irons was the Man of Steel, he never claimed to BE Superman, just that he felt it was his mission in life to continue his work. Superboy was a clone of Superman, he knew he wasn't the original, though he had similar traits. The 2 that were claiming to be the original were the one that actually WAS inhabiting his body, and the Cyborg Superman.
You have John Henry Irons correct. Superboy did in fact claim to be the original Superman, he didn't know he was a clone and neither did anyone else at first. Cyborg Superman was obviously not the real one, and was of course engaging in subterfuge. The other Superman at the time was not inhabiting the body of the real one, it was the Eradicator who had created his own body using Superman's as a template.
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Jay Garrick was not active at the same time as Barry Allen (barring time travel), Barry Allen picked up the mantle and became The Flash when he gained super speed, apparently LONG after Jay Garrick was no longer active. I also just searched and found out something I didn't know, Barry Allen named himself after the Jay Garrick Flash from a comic book.
Jay Garrick was in fact active at the same time as Barry Allen, the same way there were 2 Supermen, 2 Batmen, 2 Robins, etc. active at once. It was during the Silver Age, with Earth-1, Earth-2, Earth-3, etc. all being extant, resulting in multiples of each character. (I use the same conceit to explain my multiple versions of Justice Blues.) After COIE, Jay was semi-retired and Barry was dead, so there was just Wally West. But Jay has been out of retirement for many years now, co-existing as Flash with both Wally and Bart at different points, and at this point in time, there are 3 Flashes all on active duty at once, Jay, Barry, and Wally. Bart having reverted to Kid Flash again.

None of this means that I think multiples of the same name should be allowed on the servers. There is a huge difference between a comic book univers with long history and storylines and a MMO. And I find that digging for a name for a character, and finding one that is really unusual, can really help me get interested in the character.

And after previewing that post, I think I may be slightly bothered by the fact that I didn't have to look any of it up.


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Just because I am a comic geek and seeing the errors here bothers me:

Technically, this is accurate, the 2 current Wildcats have a connection to the GA Wildcat. But that is because one of them is the GA Wildcat. The Silver Age Wildcat would be better named the Earth-1 Wildcat, he was not a protege of the original, he was the Earth-1 version of the original, who was from Earth-2. Since Crisis on Infinite Earths in 1986, there has only been the original Wildcat, his goddaughter Yolanda (killed by Eclipso) and his son Tom Bronson. The original and his son are both members of the JSA.
I won't lie, this one I looked up. I wasn't familiar with the character, so I had no knowledge of my own. The point I was making stands though. All the Wildcats have the name because they are all connected.

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You have John Henry Irons correct. Superboy did in fact claim to be the original Superman, he didn't know he was a clone and neither did anyone else at first. Cyborg Superman was obviously not the real one, and was of course engaging in subterfuge. The other Superman at the time was not inhabiting the body of the real one, it was the Eradicator who had created his own body using Superman's as a template.
I apparently missed some issues there. Namely the ones where they explained some of that. I remember the Superboy series from after he knew he was a clone, and just plain forgot that he was claiming to be the original. Cyborg Superman WAS claiming to be the real one (no one bought it, but he claimed it all the same) And I apparently missed the part where the Eradicator revealed who he really was. Last I was aware he was still claiming to be inhabiting the original body. I lost interest in it after a while, so there are holes in my knowledge.

But, all of these characters that had a claim to the name of Superman were connected by the same storyline, and their stories were told in the 4 Superman titles that already existed at the time.

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Jay Garrick was in fact active at the same time as Barry Allen, the same way there were 2 Supermen, 2 Batmen, 2 Robins, etc. active at once. It was during the Silver Age, with Earth-1, Earth-2, Earth-3, etc. all being extant, resulting in multiples of each character. (I use the same conceit to explain my multiple versions of Justice Blues.) After COIE, Jay was semi-retired and Barry was dead, so there was just Wally West. But Jay has been out of retirement for many years now, co-existing as Flash with both Wally and Bart at different points, and at this point in time, there are 3 Flashes all on active duty at once, Jay, Barry, and Wally. Bart having reverted to Kid Flash again.
Yeah, I dug a little deeper and discovered that all 3 Flashes asked Jay's permission to use the name. I was unaware that they were active concurrently until then. I knew Wally was Kid Flash while Barry was active though, only because I have about a 35 issue run of the Teen Titans from the early 80's (my collection ends just before Crisis, in mid '85)

Again though, the point I was making stands, all the Flashes that have or had the name are connected in some way. And with the exception of Jay Garrick they are all related (Barry is Wally's uncle, Bart is Barry's grandson) The original Jay connection is, when Barry gained super speed he named himself after his childhood hero...Jay Garrick. That was before Jay reappeared I believe.

I had to look a lot of that up, I was going by memory on the parts that were incorrect, and my DC lore is weak. I am MUCH better at Marvel lore, because I always preferred the characters they had.

Incorrect information aside, the point I was making is that in every case here, there is a reason for these characters to have the same name, they aren't just random guys with the same name that have nothing to do with each other.


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It must be terrible to not get to name your characters Fyre Blastor for so many.
In all honesty, you deserve more than that. Like, a slap up the back of your miserable head. And a boot to the teeth, possibly. You're being straight-out irrational on this one.

The lying bit was straight-out unfounded, considering your quote. After all it's been pointed out by several people that there currently are several Flashes and obviously tons of GLs (one of which is not associated with the Corps, by the by) concurrently. And if we look at the pre-Crisis DCU, we got tons of everyone.

Hardly any lying involved in stating fact.

Next up, belittling anyone who has their heart set on an already taken name. It's not exactly worse, but it's hardly better. Yes, there is a ton of nominally valid names, but there is only going to be a limited amount of names that I want. You're free to not like that idea, but the guy's idea is not exactly on the same level as 'let's all eat kittens' and hardly deserves that kind of ****.

You on the other hand do. Here's your ****.


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Originally Posted by Westley View Post
Nail, meet head.

Even YOUR name Johnny shows the infinite possibilities... Let's say that Johnny Velocity is taken. I want to make a speedster with a "normal" name and a "speed" name:

Bobby Breakneck
Charlie Chop-Chop
Danny Dashing
Erin Expeditious
Frankie Flash
Hasty Hank
Lisa Lickety
Nathan Nimble
Perry Pronto
Quinton Quick
Richie Rapid
Screamin' Steve


And that's LIMITING myself to VERY specific rules of "normal" name + "fast name" + alliteration and giving it a minute or two of thought.

Anyone that complains about not being able to get an APPROPRIATE name for their character is just simply uncreative. PERIOD.
Yeah. Cause Batty Bruce and Tony Tin sound so much better than Batman and Iron Man, respectively.

As people have pointed out time and again, there is a TINY element of personal preference involved. I find all the names you've given dodgy at best. Valid, sure, but not exactly top of the heap. More like a Dial H for Hero selection than someone who could head up their own book.

I can see why people would rather have something a bit catchier. One nice Speedster name I've seen in-game and haven't seen in comics was Breakneck for example. Very sleek and far more down my alley if I were to make a Speedster.


And something related. Way back when in this thread, someone mentioned using foreign languages. Seriously only do this if you know what you're doing. At best use a singular noun found in the dictionary, and only use that if there are no alternates given. Some (most) languages are not as user-friendly as English, for example when forming composites.


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Also fact that all the Flashes, all the GLs but one, both Wildcats etc. are related within the storyline.

They all have conections to one another. How many of the Flashes have any powers aside from super-speed? Except for Jay Garrick they are all even in the same family

Name a GL who's powers didn't involve the creation of objects with hard light. Most commonly green light, but Guy Gardner had a yellow ring for a while (which was identical in function, just yellow instead of green) Even Alan Scott, who's ring was magic based, had powers that functioned very similarly, forming a (loose) connection with the others.

Not as familiar with the Wildcats, but I'd be willing to bet their powers (if they have any) and abilities are very similar, because (as Justice Blues pointed out) the two current ones are father and son.

Long history of characters with the same name that are very closely intertwined in the lore of the universe they reside in.

They are not random people who just happened to pick the same name. THAT is the point I was making.

Also, why do Batman and Iron Man have such impact? Because there is no one else with that name

Thugs fear Batman, I imagine their fear would be less if he was "A" Batman instead of "THE" Batman.

One other person has been known as Iron Man in the history of the character, James Rhodes, and that was because Tony Stark was trying to act like Iron Man was his bodyguard and not him personally.

In allowing unlimited characters to have the same name it kills the impact of that name.

"Hooray, it's Superman!" becomes "Oh, look, another Superman"


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Most commonly green light, but Guy Gardner had a yellow ring for a while (which was identical in function, just yellow instead of green)
That was actually Sinestro's original yellow ring. It was the same in all respects, just lacking (and exploiting) the yellow impurity of the old GL rings and actually being recharged by feeding off of GL energy rather than from a battery. If Guy's evil clone, the Enforcer is still out there he should still have that ring.


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Reading over this thread, it seems to me like a whole lot of people are being WAY too picky and snobbish about their names.

Because, you know, naming your characters in a pretendy fun-time game is SRS BZNS!


 

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Reading over this thread, it seems to me like a whole lot of people are being WAY too picky and snobbish about their names.
But...but...I want the name HE has!!

Daddy, buy me that name!!

I want it NOW!!

/endVerucaSalt


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Reading over this thread, it seems to me like a whole lot of people are being WAY too picky and snobbish about their names.

Because, you know, naming your characters in a pretendy fun-time game is SRS BZNS!
That's why I like Virtue so much. In our name thread, we actually congratulate one another on great finds. Very few of us are snobbish about names, and actually trade and release names to folks who ask nicely if we aren't using them.


 

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This thread just boggles my mind.


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This thread just boggles my mind.
This thread turns your mind into a 4x4 grid of letters in which others attempt to find words of three letters or more?


 

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This thread turns your mind into a 4x4 grid of letters in which others attempt to find words of three letters or more?
God I hate that game. Mostly because I have friends that have the Scrabble dictionary of 3 letter words memorized. Plus all of the 2 letter and most of the 4 letter words. The only thing worse than playing Boggle with them is playing Scrabble with them.


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