Invul or EA for Claws


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Yea, Energy Drain is one of the MAIN powers of EA. It does wonders.


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I'm having a hard time getting to 28. At 25 now and I almost deleted her again. Instead, I'll bite the bullet and lower her diff back to +0/x4. Apparently I can't handle +0/x6 without dying at least twice a mission now.

She's getting nuked at 29 if ED doesn't let her handle +0/x6 without issue.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
I'm having a hard time getting to 28. At 25 now and I almost deleted her again. Instead, I'll bite the bullet and lower her diff back to +0/x4. Apparently I can't handle +0/x6 without dying at least twice a mission now.

She's getting nuked at 29 if ED doesn't let her handle +0/x6 without issue.

Doesn't seem too bad for me at 24.
I have it set at 0/6 right now. Having some problems with the Miners with their defense debuff and spiders with... well they are spiders.
Freaks though... I might be able to handle 0/8.


 

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I feel stuck with EA at this point. I know SR and WP will work wonderfully, but I wanted something new on the brute side.

FA and DA are out. Stone and Shields aren't allowed. I've already got a claws/inv hero side. That leaves ElA and EA but I found that ElA's dependence on end drains doesn't work for me since I like fighting +4s late game.


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I dunno. Are you fighting with your Brute any differently?

I recently got lvl 22 and SOs. I turned my xp off and am quite comfortable with +0lvl/4x missions. Mind you, I'm no Brute of experience but it's actually quite easy most of the time. I say I'm comfortable because there are a few times in every mission that's kind of a close one but overall that just makes playing interesting. I'll probably leave him on that difficulty until he gets any more defense/resists.

Now that I got Energy Cloak, there's no way I'd switch to another secondary.


 

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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
I'm having a hard time getting to 28. At 25 now and I almost deleted her again. Instead, I'll bite the bullet and lower her diff back to +0/x4. Apparently I can't handle +0/x6 without dying at least twice a mission now.

She's getting nuked at 29 if ED doesn't let her handle +0/x6 without issue.
wow...I think you guys have a high standard. For my fire/EA brute, I set the difficulty to +2/x8 with boss and no AV, and I think that's probably the best my brute can do. My brute has aid-self and soft-capped all defense except psionic. I think the brute needs more than just defense, small resistance and the little heals to be better.

At level 20s without enough power pools and IO bonus, I think it's pretty harsh to push the difficulty up a lot.


 

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Hit 26. Never left +0/x6 diff. Now have eviscerate. Spin + Evis makes things considerably easier.


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Originally Posted by Leo_G View Post
Seriously?

Mine is lvl 10 and he doesn't seem any less survivable than my Stone/Shield brute and he only has Kinetic Shield. It does exactly what SR would do at that lvl (dodge/deflect certain attacks at that lvl) except SR would be for melee/ranged and EA is for smashing/lethal.
Defense Sets take longer to mature than Resist Sets. I started playing Brutes with Resists and I find Defense sets maddening until well into the 20s. After that they really shine, but you have to give them time to blossom. Someone who is coming off a /invuln or worse yet /WP will find /EA squishy in the early levels. All I can say is it does get better. My Fire/EA brute is 43 and is practically untouchable. Things started to flip for me around level 26-28 or so.


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Defense Sets take longer to mature than Resist Sets. I started playing Brutes with Resists and I find Defense sets maddening until well into the 20s. After that they really shine, but you have to give them time to blossom. Someone who is coming off a /invuln or worse yet /WP will find /EA squishy in the early levels. All I can say is it does get better. My Fire/EA brute is 43 and is practically untouchable. Things started to flip for me around level 26-28 or so.
That was kind of my point when I posted that. EA doesn't 'suck' like was stated earlier. It's just a defense set from the perspective of the early levels. Now it may not be SR once past lvl 24 but that's another can-o-worms. But considering the pool choices and endurance management, it has its own advantages.


 

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I think in the early game it's still rather softer than SR.

with IOs in the late game... it's plenty tough "enough" for most things... but again, still softer than SR... even if those SR builds were breathed on somewhat less heavily by the IO gods.

Now... sure you get end management with EA... but where you get protection from IOs, they get end management from IOs... potentially a lot of it.

Where I see EA as having a role is in builds that require such obscene quantities of endurance that even IOs don't quite fit the bill, and even WP is marginal. /EA or /Ele will still get you there.

SS/EA/Mako cone chaining, AoE spamming blast brutes come first to mind... though if we ever get physical perfection, wp with 3X performance shifters could probably pull it off too. [edit: provided it comes in a set that has enough AoE to make it worthwhile!]


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Hit 28 and 29 tonight. Energy Drain helps. At 29 I put two more recharges in it. Eventually I'll slot it with some heal IOs.

As I've been playing at +0/x6, jumping into large spawns, firing off spin and eviscerate and then being able to heal back the damage from the alpha strike made considerable difference.

While I'm glad I stuck with it, getting here really did suck.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Hit 29 myself...
Got nergy drain slotted with 2 recharge and a heal. Gonna go run a few mish and see if I need manauvers at 30 or pick up focus.

The ride here was indeed a bit harsh...



Edit:
note to self...
Energy Drain cost 13 endurance to use... waiting to use it with just 13 endurance left could drop all your toggles... ;-)


 

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No focus? Iggy, I know you have a masochism streak like all good scrappers, but DAMN, MAN! That's madness.


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My Claws/EA is 25 and I haven't had many problems at all but then I run with an MA/Nin stalker and an earth/earth dom quite a bit. Getting SO's in was a bit of a relief though! Planning to grab evis at 26 and ED at 28 and so far I am having a blast =)

As is he had to be EA for his concept so even if I died every 5 seconds I would stick it out. =)

Thanks tons for the advice on power picks for the early levels Iggy, I swapped to that build at 10 and it worked much better than what I had been running previously. I still have to rework my power picks in Mids (as far as order) but using a couple Oblit sets along with the Kin Combats I managed to rework him enough to get to 46.7 S/L defense.


 

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Concept was a push for me as well. Her name is Singularity's Edge and she does look the part with black/deep-red auras and the cloak running.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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I wanted to fit in tough and weave as early as possible, so it was either spin or focus. I went with spin for the aoe it offers, though I did miss focus just last night on a mish full of tsoo. Those darn sorcs are a pain, put me down like 5 times on that mish. Probably gonna follow my plan on picking up manauvers at 30 as I don't see any problems with my endurance. Gonna see how far I could push EA with just SO's and regular IO's I find along the way (no sets not even the +3 defense).

side note:
Energy Drain takes so frickin long... I needs my heal now!!!


 

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Why are you picking up maneuvers again...? I doubt it's gonna be worth the slots or the trouble.


 

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Why are you picking up maneuvers again...? I doubt it's gonna be worth the slots or the trouble.
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Gonna see how far I could push EA with just SO's and regular IO's I find along the way (no sets not even the +3 defense).
That's why.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Well just hit 30. Picked up Maneuvers, and been running 1/6.
3 bars from 31 and a fully slotted Energy Drain... ;-)



Edit: Though I find myself needing a bit more accuracy against +2's

well got side tracked and joined a team...


 

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Just finished fully IOing my 48 Claws/Invul and it rocks. Spin is amazing, btw.. if y'all haven't heard, lol.

Edit: Can't solo +1 Rikti outlined to 6. Gonna try 2x2.


 

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Just finished fully IOing my 48 Claws/Invul and it rocks. Spin is amazing, btw.. if y'all haven't heard, lol.

Edit: Can't solo +1 Rikti outlined to 6. Gonna try 2x2.
+1/6 ?

Gotta be something wrong there. My Claws/Inv scrapper can pretty much sleep walk through the RWZ challenge.


 

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No idea, thb. I could be lacking on the ranged defense, maybe?

EDIT: yeah, I just tried running a couple RWZ mishes at +1/6 and there's no way I can do them without Inspirs. I need more Ranged or Energy defense, I think.


 

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Originally Posted by SkylineGTR View Post
No idea, thb. I could be lacking on the ranged defense, maybe?

EDIT: yeah, I just tried running a couple RWZ mishes at +1/6 and there's no way I can do them without Inspirs. I need more Ranged or Energy defense, I think.
Just take a few secs to duck around a corner or obstacle to bring them into melee to feed invincibility.


 

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Each mob's about 50% Drones.

Alright.. spent awhile on Mid's and I think I came up with a way to make him stronger. 40% E/N Defense + 26% Ranged and all I lost was 25% Regen and 10% Recov. I did trade out Shockwave for Evis, though. Gonna see if I like it.


 

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woot!!! hit 34

with defenses 35+ and ED fully slotted, bumbed the slider up to +1/8. Ran a few mish with councils and freaks and I don't see much of a problem. I know, I know... cherry pickin ... ;-)