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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It says we can design our own levels - does that mean I can get to 51?
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Well, I've never even seen the design tools anywhere in the game |
Originally Posted by Ravenswing
Ah, GG, it says you can design them, but does it say you can achieve them?
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Alt+F4 activates Admin tools ;o
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Well, I've never even seen the design tools anywhere in the game
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Originally Posted by EvilBenFranklin
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you on several points.
People are unlikely to be buying inf on the grey market then converting it to prestige if they're farmers or power-levelers. They're getting it so they can kit out their characters with the fanciest shiny stuff, so they can keep farming to get more shiny stuff, etc, etc, ad nauseum. The sheer ungodly number of in-game spam emails that I have to clear out every time I log in is proof that the grey market influence/infamy business is alive and well, no matter how we and the devs might wish otherwise. I'm really not sure where you get this attitude from. I've been playing since just after the game opened - a little over five years. It took me until this year to get to 50 with one character, but that is not because I'm "inferior." It's because I've had other things to spend my time on, such as a full-time job, not alienating my wife with massive amounts of computer time, and so on. Ask any of my teammates in the GA if I'm an inferior player, and you'll get laughed at. Quantity of levels does not equate to quality of play. You're right, it's not the Olympics. There aren't any required guidelines for evaluating an AE arc. It is purely in the realm of subjective opinion. That said, rating an arc only 1 star because it's got custom enemies after the devs make changes to bring said custom critters' rewards back in line with the rest of Reality, in my opinion, is rather petty, and indicates your true colors, sir. Did the devs make some errors when the MA first went live? Yes. However, I applaud them for trying to correct those mistakes without either resorting to slapdown tactics or otherwise crippling the tools to the point where they're useless. Farmers will farm. This is a fact of life. I've seen it in CoX, I've seen it in WoW, EVE Online, and a couple of other games. However, the purpose of the Mission Architect was not to provide Old MacDonald a convenient place to stand around, annoy other players, waggle his e-peen about, and generally exploit the system. The MA's purpose, as stated by the devs when it first was announced, was to allow players to tell their own stories. It was meant to expand and enrich the content available to the CoX community which from my lengthy perspective, had gotten somewhat jaded from years of Skulls, Hellions, Crey, Council, and rescuing the thrice-damned Jewel of Hera over and over again. Will there be arcs that aren't worth more than one or two stars? Yes. Not everyone is of a creative mindset, and sometimes even if you have a good idea, it just doesn't work out the way you expect it to... but marking an arc down purely because one is not getting PHATXPLEWTZLOLZ is just utterly asinine. That's also an opinion. Do with it what you will. |
Are you and the other guy above calling me a liar? Send me a private tell and I will give you the names. YOU can find the facts are very true.
As far as exchange rate goes, let me say this, what you value and earn, others do not. If some kid gets Dad's credit card number and Dad does not know what happens till the bill arrives or he does not pay close attention, or there is a family situation (like an ugly divorce), or a stolen ID...
BUT, I will be more than happy, privately to give you that data... and you can apologize publically once you learn what I say is true.
I am Airman America... Super Hero... and I approve this message!
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Originally Posted by Gr33n
Bad idea... Why limit someone who can out level the rest of the population?
I wish some could get it into their heads, some people like to level as fast as they can... its what they enjoy doing... it IS fun to them. What would happen to the winner of the 2billion CC on liberty last night? I am sure a sudden increase of 2 billion influence, in the system you say you want would have got this toon banned or his account. Do teh GMs or whoever have the time to police and question this type of increase? I wold say no... so if its an auto ban... well then i would feel sorry for big CC prize winners. The anti-farmers/anti PLing population are the most militant group in this game. reminds me of people preaching tolerance yet having no tolerance for those that choose not to be tolerant. |
I am hardly anti-farm. I am hardly anti giving a guy a break (a boost to a level when stuck). I am against a guy popping into the game and all they learn is PL. What is the fun in that? What is the challenge? Sure sure, you can say "fun is in what you make it". I stand with you on that, however, this is far far different than 6 months ago. Heck, bring back the old I4 days! That had everyone up in arms... this is so beyond I4, so extreme, I can envision nothing but nerfs.
In the end, folks like you will say "well it has been nice but I am going to play X now" and you got yours... guys like me are stuck holding the bag... like after i4. Maybe you do not care and are heartless. Perhaps I will see you become a lawyer, or a corporate executive, or a politician. What do you care, right?
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Dude, put the internet tough guy fists down. There's a world of difference between "I'm not sure I believe what you're saying" and "You're a liar." Nobody really knows you, so why should they put blind faith in your words?|
Originally Posted by Airman_America
Are you and the other guy above calling me a liar? Send me a private tell and I will give you the names. YOU can find the facts are very true.
As far as exchange rate goes, let me say this, what you value and earn, others do not. If some kid gets Dad's credit card number and Dad does not know what happens till the bill arrives or he does not pay close attention, or there is a family situation (like an ugly divorce), or a stolen ID... BUT, I will be more than happy, privately to give you that data... and you can apologize publically once you learn what I say is true. |
Leaping straight from disagreement to all but demanding an apology isn't helpful to any sort of discussion.
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This thread was lucky to even get an overused meme!
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Originally Posted by Calash
Funny thread is funny
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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The more you act like an internet tough guy, the more everyone knows you're 12 years old! |
Originally Posted by Rush_Bolt
Dude, put the internet tough guy fists down. There's a world of difference between "I'm not sure I believe what you're saying" and "You're a liar." Nobody really knows you, so why should they put blind faith in your words?
Leaping straight from disagreement to all but demanding an apology isn't helpful to any sort of discussion. |
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Ok I will bite to make you happy, last post for me though, gotten tired of this thread. I am on vacation and am going to move on to doing other fun things like mow the lawn and clean excess oil buildup off my engine block... oh yeah... and help a friend with hooking her PC up to her TV.|
Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
The more you act like an internet tough guy, the more everyone knows you're 12 years old!
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1. I am 55.
2. I do not like to be questioned. Sure, you do not know me personally, if you did, you would not - I am that open/transparent and work in security and have held an above top secret clearance when in the military. Perhaps I am used to it so I took exception. I will put the fists down.
OH this so reminds me of when I made a call on bases in I6 (they just came out). I pointed out that some of the Villain SGs I belonged to had EVERYTHING, max land, all the stuff, all decked out! I recall I did the math and posted it. Got loads of replies like "Well maybe they are working hard" and "Well some are just doing the right things" and all sorts of banter like I saw written above...
Turned out that CuppaJo (remember her?) posted not too long after that these guys found an exploit whereby you could sell a room back after getting it for free. CoH took back all the "Ill gotten gains" (her words).
Yep, if an honest man is disbelieved, he lets time prove him right.
Have a nice day, bye bye.
I am Airman America... Super Hero... and I approve this message!
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The soul of a two year old trapped in a 55 year old body?|
Originally Posted by Airman_America
1. I am 55.
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oh wow this airman america guy is doing things with engine blocks and computers and manly chores like mowing the lawn
he was also in the military held so many clearances
in fact, he had all the clearances and other military people would have to ask him to use them
sometimes he'd make them beg
a real man's man, this one
Thread did not show someone trying to stick a CoH box in their mouth.
Disappointed.
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ratings are a reflection of how we like things. period. I dont like Britney spears. Doesnt mean she is a bad singer, just that I dont like her music. 1 or 2 stars. One of the things I find enjoyable about a mission is the xp. I try to do TF's when in the level range. This adds to the enjoyment. If I run a arc full of custom masterminds that 80% of the things I have to kill are worthless, I will rate it low. Not fun. Telling me I am a bad person because I give the rating I feel like and not the rating you think I should is arrogant and stupid. The devs made this system, we have to live with it. Of course I wont be spending much time in AE anymore, so my rating will not affect much. I rate things based on my FUN. Low xp lowers(but does not preclude) fun. You had better have a meter pegging fun mission if you hope to get decent ratings with low xp.
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Originally Posted by EvilBenFranklin
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you on several points.
People are unlikely to be buying inf on the grey market then converting it to prestige if they're farmers or power-levelers. They're getting it so they can kit out their characters with the fanciest shiny stuff, so they can keep farming to get more shiny stuff, etc, etc, ad nauseum. The sheer ungodly number of in-game spam emails that I have to clear out every time I log in is proof that the grey market influence/infamy business is alive and well, no matter how we and the devs might wish otherwise. I'm really not sure where you get this attitude from. I've been playing since just after the game opened - a little over five years. It took me until this year to get to 50 with one character, but that is not because I'm "inferior." It's because I've had other things to spend my time on, such as a full-time job, not alienating my wife with massive amounts of computer time, and so on. Ask any of my teammates in the GA if I'm an inferior player, and you'll get laughed at. Quantity of levels does not equate to quality of play. You're right, it's not the Olympics. There aren't any required guidelines for evaluating an AE arc. It is purely in the realm of subjective opinion. That said, rating an arc only 1 star because it's got custom enemies after the devs make changes to bring said custom critters' rewards back in line with the rest of Reality, in my opinion, is rather petty, and indicates your true colors, sir. Did the devs make some errors when the MA first went live? Yes. However, I applaud them for trying to correct those mistakes without either resorting to slapdown tactics or otherwise crippling the tools to the point where they're useless. Farmers will farm. This is a fact of life. I've seen it in CoX, I've seen it in WoW, EVE Online, and a couple of other games. However, the purpose of the Mission Architect was not to provide Old MacDonald a convenient place to stand around, annoy other players, waggle his e-peen about, and generally exploit the system. The MA's purpose, as stated by the devs when it first was announced, was to allow players to tell their own stories. It was meant to expand and enrich the content available to the CoX community which from my lengthy perspective, had gotten somewhat jaded from years of Skulls, Hellions, Crey, Council, and rescuing the thrice-damned Jewel of Hera over and over again. Will there be arcs that aren't worth more than one or two stars? Yes. Not everyone is of a creative mindset, and sometimes even if you have a good idea, it just doesn't work out the way you expect it to... but marking an arc down purely because one is not getting PHATXPLEWTZLOLZ is just utterly asinine. That's also an opinion. Do with it what you will. |
Lots of 50's yada yada. still finding fun things to do.
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oh wow this airman america guy is doing things with engine blocks and computers and manly chores like mowing the lawn
he was also in the military held so many clearances in fact, he had all the clearances and other military people would have to ask him to use them sometimes he'd make them beg a real man's man, this one |
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I wish I'd written this post.
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Good news for you! With the changes in i16, you can still get XP while above the level range of a TF! And, IIRC, you'll get to keep all the powers up to +5 of the level you're exemped/mal'ed to.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Originally Posted by hedgehog_NA
First hand knowledge. The exchange rate from inf to prestige is so atrocious that someone would spend way too much money buying inf for it to be worth it. Shennanigans there. As far as cheapening your 50's, Until you have at least 1 dozen 50's, you are an inferior player. So someone 3 starred your mission. It is a beauty contest. If I think your arc is crap I will mark it as such, that is not griefing. I would tend to 1 star any arc with custom enemies after I16 comes out. That is my choice. Rating is strictly whether I liked it or not. This isnt the olympics with a judging sheet and required elements.
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Originally Posted by hedgehog_NA
ratings are a reflection of how we like things. period. I dont like Britney spears. Doesnt mean she is a bad singer, just that I dont like her music. 1 or 2 stars. One of the things I find enjoyable about a mission is the xp. I try to do TF's when in the level range. This adds to the enjoyment. If I run a arc full of custom masterminds that 80% of the things I have to kill are worthless, I will rate it low. Not fun. Telling me I am a bad person because I give the rating I feel like and not the rating you think I should is arrogant and stupid. The devs made this system, we have to live with it. Of course I wont be spending much time in AE anymore, so my rating will not affect much. I rate things based on my FUN. Low xp lowers(but does not preclude) fun. You had better have a meter pegging fun mission if you hope to get decent ratings with low xp.
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The point I THINK they were making, and I'm definitely stating, is this: just because it happened once is meaningless. Okay, so you can provide ironclad evidence about this one SG. Who cares? If one schmoe thinks he bought the Brooklyn Bridge, do we need to take precautions to ensure that never happens again?|
Originally Posted by Airman_America
Are you and the other guy above calling me a liar? Send me a private tell and I will give you the names. YOU can find the facts are very true.
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Their point stands. GENERALLY SPEAKING, people don't buy influence to convert to prestige to buff their SG standing. It doesn't matter if one SG did exactly that. Generally speaking, people don't buy a car to see how many people they can run over before the police stop them. One outlying case does not allow us to draw conclusions and is not a reason to change the way we do things.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I only play the AE for fun - I was 50 before it came out
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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I think the issue at hand was the guy created an AE arc and the guy rated it as if it was suppose to be a farm when it was more about the story. That would be like me going to see a horror flick and giving it a bad rating because it didn't make me laugh enough. If I wanted to laugh I probably picked the wrong movie to go see, don't you think? If the guy wanted a top-notch XP farm he probably picked the wrong mission to play and therefore rated it based on the wrong reasons.
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Originally Posted by hedgehog_NA
ratings are a reflection of how we like things. period. I dont like Britney spears. Doesnt mean she is a bad singer, just that I dont like her music. 1 or 2 stars. One of the things I find enjoyable about a mission is the xp. I try to do TF's when in the level range. This adds to the enjoyment. If I run a arc full of custom masterminds that 80% of the things I have to kill are worthless, I will rate it low. Not fun. Telling me I am a bad person because I give the rating I feel like and not the rating you think I should is arrogant and stupid. The devs made this system, we have to live with it. Of course I wont be spending much time in AE anymore, so my rating will not affect much. I rate things based on my FUN. Low xp lowers(but does not preclude) fun. You had better have a meter pegging fun mission if you hope to get decent ratings with low xp.
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That's right, you keep telling yourself that |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Level 50, not age
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
That's right, you keep telling yourself that
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I don't need to - I already know it
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