About the reputation system...


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Just report you got "pretty nasty comments (some anti-semitic)" remarks attached to negative rep. You may not know who posted them but the GMs do.


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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
Is there any way we can see who gives us reputation on the forums? I've gotten some pretty nasty comments (some anti-semitic) in my rep list because I spoke out about farming.
Let's be a bit more accurate, shall we? Many of your posts were antagonistic. You managed to be frequently sarcastic, condescending and belittling. You even managed to get snippy with Mid_Forever who happens to be one of the nicest people in the forums.


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I'd love to see who sent them so I can report them to a mod. I'm not a tattle-tale, some of this crap is bad.
Granted, anti-semitic words or behaviour of any type should not be tolerated. Yet be advised that the GM's will weigh your prior bad behaviour as well.


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Also people are entitled to not like the OP because of his stances about any kind of subject.

I have yet to find any of his posts, but if I dont like the way he does it, i will rep-. But I always sign my reps, and explain the whys.

Reglardess, any kind of prejudice, be it anti-semitic or whatever, are not to be tolerated. Please call the forum mods and explain the case. They probably (100%, i think) can find the posters and deal with the case. But also they probably (100%, i think) wont tell you who they were.


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Bay, can you post me the link to my post 'getting snippy' at Mid_Forever? I think you may have me confused with someone else... unless I've forgotten a thread I've posted in, I couldn't find any chatter between Mid and myself.

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Also people are entitled to not like the OP because of his stances about any kind of subject.
I understand, but the things I've received rep comment-wise are nothing warranted by me speaking out against AE farming.


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My prediction is the rep system will be shut down within 30 days. Too many forum members will use its anonymity as an excuse to make personal attacks in violation of the forum rules.


 

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You can always disable rep, although the hilariously stupid part about that is that you still get the comments in your Control Panel, your rep just isn't displayed on your posts.

Hey board mods! Disable this garbage please.


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What no whining about the rep farmers as well?

I'm surprised :-|


 

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I've never liked the rep system, and never will. I suggest turning your rep off permantly, and never looking at it again. Personally, I see the rep system as a juvenile way to bring up or down someone elses opinion. These opinions could very well be wrong, but intelligent discourse can't happen without dissent.

I'll forever wish the Dev's had forgone the rep system when we moved to this new forum. It only encourages cowards to bash posters, or come together to 'promote' certain posters to angelic status. Witty and entertaining is one thing...these posters should be applauded(and were before this rediculous rep system).

The rep system reminds me of high school....kind of like a popularity contest. It's juvenile, and should be above most posters....


 

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Originally Posted by Chaos Creator View Post
What no whining about the rep farmers as well?

I'm surprised :-|
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If you have strong opinions that others might take issue with, I'd suggest that you cheerfully disable it.



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Originally Posted by Heraclea View Post
If you have strong opinions that others might take issue with, I'd suggest that you cheerfully disable it.
And I'd cheerfully direct you to my earlier post:

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You can always disable rep, although the hilariously stupid part about that is that you still get the comments in your Control Panel, your rep just isn't displayed on your posts.
So yeah, the people who don't care about little red and green dots can still be viciously and anonymously harassed.


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
And I'd cheerfully direct you to my earlier post:


So yeah, the people who don't care about little red and green dots can still be viciously and anonymously harassed.
I have mine disabled for personal reasons. I believe that with so many people manually manipulating their Rep value, it doesn't stand for anything anyway.

But you are right, it doesn't stop people from trying to (-) me for making posts against the misuse of the rep feature. All this with my rep not even enabled! What point are they trying to make? rofl
The funny part is, I seem to get just as many, if not more (+) for the same posts as well.

Then again, I also see just as many GREY rep values as well. Apparently the rep scaling can be high enough that some people's opinions don't even count. That makes me like the rep feature even less. Why should helping a new player fix his client and get on his feet count for nothing?

Oh well.. On a side note, I do appreciate reading some of the comments people have left me, thanking me for my help.
My favorite recent one is:
- Your rep is off, but you're so helpful!

Judging by the time of the rep, and the thread history of the post I was given rep for, I think I know who it was, but whoever it really was, I thank you for that either way. It was cute.

If somebody's rep is turned off, I think you should rep them anyway... as long as you are leaving feedback and being honest about it.


 

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On the one hand I wish we could see who gave us Rep, would help curb the rampant anonymous name calling.

On the other hand I'm kinda glad we can't see it because it keeps things from escalating with retaliation after a -rep

Didn't you know, the internets full of cowards.


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Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen View Post
My prediction is the rep system will be shut down within 30 days. Too many forum members will use its anonymity as an excuse to make personal attacks in violation of the forum rules.
and get modsmacked for it since it isn't really anonymous.

I have a couple of stalkers who follow me around just to pile up the -rep, I have plenty of strong opinions I'm not shy about sharing and am far from diplomatic in my mode of expression, and yet my rep continually grows.

Probably because I don't just antagonize people and gripe about stuff, I also help people make inf and give positive feedback when warranted.


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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
Bay, can you post me the link to my post 'getting snippy' at Mid_Forever? I think you may have me confused with someone else... unless I've forgotten a thread I've posted in, I couldn't find any chatter between Mid and myself.
Here is the post I was referring to. It's possible that you simply misunderstood Mid's tone. Granted your behaviour is not that bad at this point, but your penchant for name-calling shows early on.


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Originally Posted by BayBlast View Post
Here is the post I was referring to. It's possible that you simply misunderstood Mid's tone. Granted your behaviour is not that bad at this point, but your penchant for name-calling shows early on.
... when did I ever call him a name? Or even allude to it? He pointed out something that I was aware of, and he made a point to suggest I wasn't able to comprehend him. Maybe I did mistake his tone. But at the time it seemed like he was in the frame of mind that I was incapable of reading a sentence and understanding it too.

I get defensive when people question my intelligence; the rest of that thread was myself trying in vain to explain that I was not against all farming, just AE farming.


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I'm not overly surprised you got bad feedback from a thread where you boasted about laughing at people farming in broadcast.

However, any -rep that has truely has an anti-semetic (or racist, sexist, or otherwise clearly offensive) then report it & move on.


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I'm not overly surprised you got bad feedback from a thread where you boasted about laughing at people farming in broadcast.

However, any -rep that has truely has an anti-semetic (or racist, sexist, or otherwise clearly offensive) then report it & move on.
Neither am I. I expected some backlash, but not to this extent. Reported already, moving on now.


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Originally Posted by BayBlast View Post
Let's be a bit more accurate, shall we? Many of your posts were antagonistic. You managed to be frequently sarcastic, condescending and belittling.
Well I think we know who the negative repper is!


 

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I have a feeling the rep system will remain in effect and also remain anonymous. Why? Because it serves a couple different functions: 1. It allows for people to get their yayas out on you without cluttering the forums, and 2. It does not allow for retaliation, which precludes long and drawn out internet slapfights. Now, rather than have illiterate leetspeak rants posted on the forums, which are then responded to and derail threads and need endless moderation, the illiterate leetspeakers can just send a -rep saying "lol ur stupid stop psoting" and it never taints the thread in question. Heck, you can't even reply or engage in a -rep vendetta, because you have no idea who sent the -rep. From a mod's point of view, this is a great thing.

You can report, and I guess the mods will do something, but you won't ever know who wronged you or what punishment they received. Report for sure, but as far as dealing with it on the forum goes, the best tactic is to ignore it completely. Making a thread or a reply to a thread commenting on the -rep comment just feeds the ******* and makes him or her more likely to do it again. Why? Because whereas before they had to assume they got under your skin, by posting, you confirm it. I guarantee that whoever -repped you and make the remarks in question has the biggest nerd boner right now if they saw that they got to you to the point that you posted about it.


 

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Originally Posted by Master-Blade View Post
Then again, I also see just as many GREY rep values as well. Apparently the rep scaling can be high enough that some people's opinions don't even count. That makes me like the rep feature even less. Why should helping a new player fix his client and get on his feet count for nothing?
Grey dots is rep from people with rep turned off.


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How does one go about reporting a reputation comment that is out of line?

I have one that has foul language and while I may have deserved the negative rep, I don't deserve to be forced to deal with foul language.