I16: Super-Sidekicking Explained
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Posted on: 2009-08-12 10:06 in Developers' Corner
I hope this makes things better on a server like Freedom. The spam there is redicu-tarded.
I don't think this will deter PL, because tbh I usually - enless I chose to badge hunt - PL up to lvl 22 for STAMINA... Will still do this, wont bother any of you.
This is still way awesome.
Btw, Can we get some Going Rogue update soon too? That will just make this over the top excellent.
OMG I JUST TYPED ABOUT PL UP TO 22!!!!! When Posi was typing about the 20% increase. OMG
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It means if you're level 10 and your friend is level 30, you can both play together. You know, just like regular sidekicking? |
Originally Posted by SnoBahr
So, how is this helpful to folks who aren't into powerlevelling? Who want to enjoy the game content because it's... oh... game content?
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This basically expands the idea so if you're 10, and your friend is 30, and his buddy is 47, and your significant other is 18, and the neighbor's kid that you invited over to try the game is 1, you can actually all be in the same team together.
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Don't worry... remember you can always turn the XP off for a little if you'd like. |
Originally Posted by SkarmoryThePG
AGAIN?!
I'll never get to play Heck's second arc at this rate >.< Hey, how about maybe throwing that into the first veteran reward or something? "Congrats, we know you've been through this before. Have a boost next time." |
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Last time I checked, people who want to enjoy game content sometimes want to play with people who are of a different level.|
Originally Posted by SnoBahr
So, how is this helpful to folks who aren't into powerlevelling? Who want to enjoy the game content because it's... oh... game content?
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This change *is* helping them. It's helping PLers in a way, but slowing them down immensely in another.
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Presumably it is helpful because it will be easier to find and build teams to do the game content, with less worry about whether or not you have enough mentors for all of the lower level characters, or the leader gaining a level and suddenly creating too large a spread for everyone to gain XP, or making it more likely for a higher level character to exemp down if they are earning XP, encouraging us expereinced players to run the low level content with the newbies.|
Originally Posted by SnoBahr
So, how is this helpful to folks who aren't into powerlevelling? Who want to enjoy the game content because it's... oh... game content?
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Just a couple of ways I thought of off the top of my head.
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More time to do missions, less time to look for players of the right levels. Why is that hard to understand?
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Originally Posted by SnoBahr
So, how is this helpful to folks who aren't into powerlevelling? Who want to enjoy the game content because it's... oh... game content?
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Simple thought:|
Originally Posted by SnoBahr
So, how is this helpful to folks who aren't into powerlevelling? Who want to enjoy the game content because it's... oh... game content?
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Anyone on the team search will get XP running missions of anyone on the team. Pulling teams togther just got a whole lot easier.
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You mean to the Shard where level 1s can buy a Jet Pack now?|
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On my badge hunters.. I turn off exp every two levels or so of the lower level content so I can get everything done. |
Originally Posted by SkarmoryThePG
AGAIN?!
I'll never get to play Heck's second arc at this rate >.< Hey, how about maybe throwing that into the first veteran reward or something? "Congrats, we know you've been through this before. Have a boost next time." |
It may help you.
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Interesting! So that means that bridging really will be dead!|
Originally Posted by Positron
With no mission selected the team is SK'ed/EX'ed to the Team Leader (the person with the Star).
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[Edit: deleted nonsense about autoexemps not gettingxp. Duh. Poor reading comprehension. Posi said in the first post that we get xp while exemplared under this system. Awesome!]
It sounds like a great feature, and very welcome.
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An interesting minor consequence of this is that the only Day Job badge that will now be "level gated" because access to certain zones are restricted to lower level characters will be Predator. |
Originally Posted by Positron
Yup, but the [level] requirements still exist on the Hamidon zones and the PVP zones.
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Originally Posted by Positron
They outlevel [their own missions], just like normal. Super-Sidekicking cares about the level of the mission OWNER, not the level of the mission.
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I always wondered when the Devs were going to pull a Colonel Nicholson and blow the PL bridge in this game. Better late than never I guess...
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sorry but you wrong.... and now its easier to farm out villains... but it will be in RWZ so you wont have to post about annoying broadcasts in AP anymore... just stay outta RWZ...
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Originally Posted by CharybdisClan
I just have to say this part....
HAHAHA! No more bridging! <haven't read the entire thread so sorry if this has been asked> Is this to include the AE Farms where somebody is auto-promoted to lvl 45, one or two members are 50 and the other 6 the 45s, and all the mobs are 54? SO happy about this one. I thought it couldn't be done.... thought the farms couldn't be stopped. But I was wrong. Also, e-mail changes-- superb. Bye bye RMT spammers! <uber excited about this issue now> |
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded...
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Dark_Quill
Per the OP:
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| Yes, we are even changing the way exemplaring works so that you get XP while you are fighting at a lower level. |
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maybe i am thinking like farmer but I in no way see this as a determent to farming... just new, exciting ways to get it done!!
This all sounds great!!! One of the most exciting game changing issues since i14.
I look for ward to this issue more than i have any other....
so far all good news on this one!
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded...
"The potato goes in the FRONT."
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In this case, wonder if they'll consider putting this feature to the MA system as well.
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Originally Posted by Weatherwoman
AE auto-sk's lowbies up to the *ideal maximum exp* level. This is going to auto sk to 1 level below the mission holder, not 5 levels below.
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With Super-sidekicking this is no longer true.|
Originally Posted by Dark_Quill
Interesting! So that means that bridging really will be dead!
Of course, this system means that if you've got a team full of level 33s and 34s, then the 34s are always going to want to do the level 34's missions. Otherwise, all the 34s get exemplared to 33 and earn no xp. |
Everyone (well not level 50's) get XP, even those characters that are exemplared. You can choose to go back to the old "extra Inf., no XP" way if you'd like, though, in Options.
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Yeah. Poor reading comprehension on my part. You got me before I got my post edited!
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Originally Posted by Catwhoorg
Dark_Quill
Per the OP: |
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Well, there's...|
Originally Posted by SnoBahr
So, how is this helpful to folks who aren't into powerlevelling? Who want to enjoy the game content because it's... oh... game content?
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"Hey, I'm doing the Praetorian War arc, who wants in?" instead of "OK, I'm doing the Praetorian War arc. One SK spot available. Mission is at level 42, so looking for people 40-45 level"
Or...
"Anyone interested in a Hess TF in Striga? Minimum level 25." as opposed to "OK, forming a Striga TF. Level 25-30 for XP."
Or...
"Forming ITF, 5 slots, who wants in?" as opposed to the various things about mentor slots, the level you're running at, and so forth.
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I just wanted to say that this is going to be a completely awesome change for really much more seamless teaming all around. As someone who belongs to a large coalition of SGs, which often has multiple large teams running at once, I'm looking forward to this as much as power customization. This may be my favorite new feature of I16. I can't wait 'till my global chat is no longer filled with "does that team have SK space?"
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And so did Positron!
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Originally Posted by Dark_Quill
Yeah. Poor reading comprehension on my part. You got me before I got my post edited!
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Super-sidekicking applies to Mission Architect as well.
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Originally Posted by Wuigly_Squigly
In this case, wonder if they'll consider putting this feature to the MA system as well.
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I think it will make PLing easier to set up.|
Originally Posted by Gr33n
maybe i am thinking like farmer but I in no way see this as a determent to farming... just new, exciting ways to get it done!!
This all sounds great!!! One of the most exciting game changing issues since i14. I look for ward to this issue more than i have any other.... so far all good news on this one! |
But it's going to remove the hyper-huge XP advantage/exploit that bridging provided.
At best it'll be "easy to set up slow-poke" PLing instead of "hard to set up super fast" PLing.
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This sounds completely awesome! However the Global List must be included in the new email filter. I have no doubt you will get this right also....
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My question is, doesn't it apply already (when a level is set to 50, for example), or are we to expect something different? Since we have you here, can you explain? please |
Originally Posted by Positron
Super-sidekicking applies to Mission Architect as well.
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I'll never get to play Heck's second arc at this rate >.<
Hey, how about maybe throwing that into the first veteran reward or something? "Congrats, we know you've been through this before. Have a boost next time."
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