STOP TAKING THINGS OUT!


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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For the love of all pete, will the Devs kindly stop taking things out of the MA ?!
If something is really that damn broken, then remove EXP and all stuff from it! Honestly, how many braincells does it take to fix something farely straight forward?

I've just had ANOTHER arc RUINED by the hamfisted bilge that the Devs call 'Tweaking' in MA. I was using the WSPDR backup generators as objectives in my missions on one map. And, oh look, they've GONE! There not even going to tell us what they remove, they are jsut GONE.
Same as the bloody Crey Cloning Lab map. WHY?! ARE WE NOT WORTH AN EXPLANATION OR AT LEAST AN UPDATE AS TO WHY?!

Yes, I'm angry! I'm very damned angry! And I hope they hurry up and merge the forums so I can tell the Devs just what I think of how they handle MA!


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Fail


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Creative comment here.

And Techbot, I'm afraid people use these things to glitch free XP and whatnot, removal of XP from the entire system would stop 99% of people using it. I know it's a huge shame when they remove it for people who are using the stuff correctly, but far too many people use it to exploit the game. Really sorry to hear your arc got scrambled in the mess though.


 

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...but Positron deletes only badge (I've miss 40 sweat).
nothing else.


 

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Nice to know about the generators... 1 more ruined storyarc... I think i'll just delete rest, before something else goes missing...


 

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Creative comment here.

And Techbot, I'm afraid people use these things to glitch free XP and whatnot, removal of XP from the entire system would stop 99% of people using it. I know it's a huge shame when they remove it for people who are using the stuff correctly, but far too many people use it to exploit the game. Really sorry to hear your arc got scrambled in the mess though.

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Im not saying remove exp from the whole thing, Im saying stop destructables giving exp, inf, aynthing at all! They don't even have to do damage, they just have to sit there and be destroyed as objectives! How in the world can they be an exploit, for pities sake?!


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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I'd rather things fixed. As soon as it's fixed the sooner I will use it.

I would of thought everyone intelligent enough to expect a child to go through stages and changes and that's precisely what happens when something new comes out.


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I wholeheartedly agree with you, Techbot_Alpha! So far I've been lucky enough not to have anything removed (yet) but I can imagine how it feels (I can't start an arc because of how NCSoft handle customer support).
Removing xp more the object is much more sensible than removing the entire object. At least give us some notice! Include it in patch notes, not have us find out randomly.


 

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Wonders if they vanished from the official missions too, like the burning trees map did...
I think whomever deleted it from the MA, deleted it completely!
Oops...

And for once TA I agree...

Epic FAIL!!!
(Due to not addressing the issue correctly and FAILing to give players notice.)


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I feel for Al, he's written some cracking arcs. I've stopped wanting to play with Mission Architect, purely because the Devs keep removing the best maps. Why spend all that time coming up with a decent story, picking the best locations out, adding in the objects, only for the Devs to invalidated the entire lot? Nothankyou.


 

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Wonders if they vanished from the official missions too, like the burning trees map did...
I think whomever deleted it from the MA, deleted it completely!
Oops...

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I played on the burning woods map only yester- *sees the time* -the day before last doing the Welcome to the Vanguard arc.


 

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Yeah I agree the sledgehammer to crack a nut is the worst possible response from the Devs



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PLers are nuts?

I'm pretty sure all the stuff removed will be put back in later once they've fixed it - maybe even in I16 if there are more tweaks to the MA incldued in it.


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Shut down MA, do that what theyr done to removed contend to all stuff. So I..we..dont havto guess what next thing to go next...not really, im just nuts..not a PLer thou...


 

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PLers are nuts?

I'm pretty sure all the stuff removed will be put back in later once they've fixed it - maybe even in I16 if there are more tweaks to the MA incldued in it.

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I'm getting more and more sick of their methods though. The ends justifies the means, or something? Becuase the only people it's really hurting atm are the story creators.

Although, I saw Snake Eggs are back in. And they removed them early on.
I guess the worst thing is Not Being Told. I.E. stealth-removal, which really hacks me off...and others, it seems.


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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This is one reason why I have stopped creating arcs.
Cause you never know when the Devs remove things which makes your arc invalid.
Way to go Devs ... (NOT).
Can you possibly find a way to make the MA work for those you wanted the MA to be for... aka those who actually create arcs and stories?

This is.. ofc if you are serious for players to use the MA for what it is supposed to be doing.. you know.. Making playermade stories.

You're removing destructible items (due to xp).. your removing the prisoners (due to mostlikely xp), your removing snake eggs (due to xp).
Can you follow the next logical step aka Reduce the XP? Don't think you will have a problem then.
Oh wait you will...
Fewer will play MA Arcs, but those you loose are those who use it to lvl up quickly (far to quickly).. so what is the loss?

Again... I and as it shows up in this post, others won't use the MA much or at all. Sadly, due to removal (and not mentioning/warning etc) beforehand.
Just take the logical step and remove some of the xp from the MA. Remove the xp or reduce it to soooo small amount that your happy with it and leave the destructible items in. Then add those factions and items, maps and what-not that has been removed.
Please with sugar on top?


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Tbh, I'd rather they simply removed exp *for the items*. I mean, it doesn't fight back, why give it an exp value?
That way, they can leave these things in without screwing up the arcs.

As for Map removal, ain't got the foggiest why they do that, I really don't...


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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Im sure there were actually things that did give about 1 or 0xp when destroyed, cant remember where or what though.


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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Al, gobed, s'late.

*should listen to own advice*


 

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PLers are nuts?

I'm pretty sure all the stuff removed will be put back in later once they've fixed it - maybe even in I16 if there are more tweaks to the MA incldued in it.

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Now there's a thought.... if all the Leet PLers had their nuts cracked... they'd soon stop PLing.


 

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I pretty much agree! Every time there's a problem, Sledgehammer, panic, total over reactions!

They could've removed the xp from RCO's, our green "eggs" etc. There was no need to actually remove them completely. ...and it's not like the problem was fixed. You can still get from lvl 1 to 21 in a single go, they've just nerfed the stories.

And PCninja, if their nuts where cracked they'd have no reason to do anything but PL/grind, would they?


 

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Yea i agree City of Heroes goes down so much. Some times i get i can't stand it! I mean let us play intell thursday just like how there servers always down on thursday fix it while there changing things.


 

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Way to necro-post =P


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Way to necro-post =P
and with bad spelling once again. I'm still trying to figure out that player is on about. He hasn't made a lick of sense in any thread so far.