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I think you might find him a bit of a let down - those extra arms just scream "over compensation".
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Lord Recluse has a rager for me. I can say this with the assurance of a thousand suns behind me.
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@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
To you, over compensation. To me, a man that can be powerful and all-encompassing.
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Originally Posted by Tygrrfang_EU
Segregation is bad... but..but.. if we didn't have segregation then the salt would be allow to marry vinegar and we'd have some weird mutant vinegar salt babies. That would upset the fish which would elope with the turkeys and the world would end in chaos.. CHAOS I SAY!!!!
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CURSES!
Damn you and your logic! (Is that really logic?)
You've foiled my plans! Without your crime-fighting knowhow I couldn't have been stopped. (Salt and vinegar MIXED!? Seriously I think this man is INSANE!)
COME my bi-polar potato related snack minions. We shall take over the world ANOTHER DAY!! (My minions are deep fried POTATO SLICES!?)
Muhaha, Muhaha, MUHAHAHAOoooohhh sod this I'm off for a cup of tea.
Friends are just enemies that haven't betrayed you yet.
Don't drink tea!!!!! It was proven in 1700AD that tea is infact a mind controllin drug invented by aliens to make everyone boring and stiff.
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But I don't WANT to be a cricket player!
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Originally Posted by Tygrrfang_EU
Don't drink tea!!!!! It was proven in 1700AD that tea is infact a mind controllin drug invented by aliens to make everyone boring and stiff.
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Friends are just enemies that haven't betrayed you yet.
Your aunt Grizelda didn't like the fact that you'd never take someones wicket before the third date.
She didn't like the nightshade berry tea either. 
Friends are just enemies that haven't betrayed you yet.
Nightshade berry tea is soooooooo 1882.. what would Gok Wan say girlfriend!!!
Wouldn't a better supergroup be "We accept people of all races, genders, sexualities, religions, cultures and sub-cultures. If you have views on any of the above that might be considered negative, keep them to yourself. If you can discuss your views with others in a sensible manner, that's fine, just step back if things get too heated or look like they could lead to an argument or falling out. You have a right to your views, and a responsibility to others. You wouldn't like to be mocked for being what you are, so don't do that to anyone else. Breaking these rules mean you will be reprimanded."
... Wait, wouldn't life be better like that? That's what equality means to me.
Also, universal acceptance isn't a good thing. Because we'll never be able to accept everything about everyone. Universal tolerance on the other hand, is a bit more attainable. "You are X, and while I don't quite understand that/like that/feel comfortable with that, you are entitled to that without persecution (as long as no harm, either mental, physical or emotional is caused, or is done without informed consent.)"
Just saying.
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I think that's too long to use as a SG name - even if you just shorten it to WAPOARGSRCASIYHVOAOTATMBCNKTTYIYCDYVWOIASMTFJSBITG THOLLTCLTAAOFOYHARTYVAARTOYWLTBMFBWYASDDTTAEBTRMYW BR - I don't think there'd be space for it under the avatar names.
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Originally Posted by Zortel
Wouldn't a better supergroup be "We accept people of all races, genders, sexualities, religions, cultures and sub-cultures. If you have views on any of the above that might be considered negative, keep them to yourself. If you can discuss your views with others in a sensible manner, that's fine, just step back if things get too heated or look like they could lead to an argument or falling out. You have a right to your views, and a responsibility to others. You wouldn't like to be mocked for being what you are, so don't do that to anyone else. Breaking these rules mean you will be reprimanded."
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@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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Listen to this one. She is wise.
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Originally Posted by Zortel
Wouldn't a better supergroup be "We accept people of all races, genders, sexualities, religions, cultures and sub-cultures. If you have views on any of the above that might be considered negative, keep them to yourself. If you can discuss your views with others in a sensible manner, that's fine, just step back if things get too heated or look like they could lead to an argument or falling out. You have a right to your views, and a responsibility to others. You wouldn't like to be mocked for being what you are, so don't do that to anyone else. Breaking these rules mean you will be reprimanded."
... Wait, wouldn't life be better like that? That's what equality means to me. Also, universal acceptance isn't a good thing. Because we'll never be able to accept everything about everyone. Universal tolerance on the other hand, is a bit more attainable. "You are X, and while I don't quite understand that/like that/feel comfortable with that, you are entitled to that without persecution (as long as no harm, either mental, physical or emotional is caused, or is done without informed consent.)" Just saying. |
@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.
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Originally Posted by Zortel
Wouldn't a better supergroup be "We accept people of all races, genders, sexualities, religions, cultures and sub-cultures. If you have views on any of the above that might be considered negative, keep them to yourself. If you can discuss your views with others in a sensible manner, that's fine, just step back if things get too heated or look like they could lead to an argument or falling out. You have a right to your views, and a responsibility to others. You wouldn't like to be mocked for being what you are, so don't do that to anyone else. Breaking these rules mean you will be reprimanded."
... Wait, wouldn't life be better like that? That's what equality means to me. Also, universal acceptance isn't a good thing. Because we'll never be able to accept everything about everyone. Universal tolerance on the other hand, is a bit more attainable. "You are X, and while I don't quite understand that/like that/feel comfortable with that, you are entitled to that without persecution (as long as no harm, either mental, physical or emotional is caused, or is done without informed consent.)" Just saying. |
Unfortunately intelligent outlooks are somewhat less important to most than overblown personal statements. Universal acceptance WOULD be a good thing if some things weren't inherently destructive. However I'm not going to go any further down that corridor as this topic is more about a general lifestyle choice that doesn't have anything to do with self, or other destructive behaviour. (Also I apologise, but I can't quite remember an adequate replacement for other-destructive. A poor match it may be and I am deeply sorry for such.)
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Originally Posted by Tygrrfang_EU
Nightshade berry tea is soooooooo 1882.. what would Gok Wan say girlfriend!!!
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Friends are just enemies that haven't betrayed you yet.
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Originally Posted by Golden_Girl_EU
I think that's too long to use as a SG name - even if you just shorten it to WAPOARGSRCASIYHVOAOTATMBCNKTTYIYCDYVWOIASMTFJSBITG THOLLTCLTAAOFOYHARTYVAARTOYWLTBMFBWYASDDTTAEBTRMYW BR - I don't think there'd be space for it under the avatar names.
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@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.
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Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything about a "pro-hetero/anti-gay stance in the game in-general." The post was made to show how many heterosexual relationship are ingame. I'm also not asking for a gay wedding just cause there was a straight one.....|
Originally Posted by Judgement_Dave
First off: heterosexuality isn't flaunted. It exists - but that isn't flaunting it, in much the same way that a perceived lack of non-heterosexual relationships isn't neccesarily persecution or prejudice.
Second: I'd maybe agree on Manti and Sis P's wedding if it had been done just as a plot development and hadn't been because of the RL marriage. As it was, it was effectively an ingame celebration of a major devs wedding. So the dev is male and has a heterosexual relationship and so married a woman and that was mirrored in-game. It strikes me as a shame that you seem to consider that as some sign of a pro-hetero/anti-gay stance in the game in-general. Wouldn't it have been somehow worse if the devs felt that they needed to do a gay or lesbian marriage (or civil partnership or whatever it may be called in your locality) just to maintain some sort of balance? Positive discrimination is just as bad as negative in many ways, it assumes that the minority needs extra help just to be on an even footing... Now if any of the devs are homosexual and do get married (or equivalent) then I've no problem with that being celebrated in game. To be honest I'd prefer any ingame celebrations for any form of relationship to only happen for the longer-term major devs (we don't want an in-game event everytime one of the 60 or so devs gets a new partner or splits up...). The big thing there was that a major dev found a partner that they want to share their life with and made a public legal/moral commitment to them (i.e. got married) - the dev's sexuality matters not one bit. Finally: players saying "Wife/Husband agro" is very different to all the other examples you give (which were dev-created/actioned). And the exact example you give is somewhat petty... If my wife calls me I may say "brb a min - Mrs JD called". This isn't actually me trying to assert that I'm a married male - it's just me stating why I'm going afk a minute. If you're being given aggro by your partner and need to log, should you just say "got to go - getting aggro" or "significant other aggro" or maybe "aggro from a person or persons that shall remain unidentified to you"?? As I say - I think that's a poor example that you used. It's a different case if someone is making a big deal of dropping in references to their partner or their relationship every 5 minutes just for the sake of it... But that's annoying whatever the sex/sexuality of the player and partner. And as an aside: In conversation, I've known gay friends refer to their partner as 'the wife'. As have straight/bi friends referring to a female partner who, amazingly, may not actually be a legal wife. Someone saying they're getting aggro from the wife doesn't mean that they actually have a wife or are even a male heterosexual in a marriage. |
As for the Husband/Wife agro comment in most countires men/women can't have wife/husband that includes the US (barring some states). So it wasen't that big a leap to assume that these were heterosexual relationships (Though I'm sure some weren't) Again the husband/wife agro comment does not bother me.
The OP asked for a gay SG which was a totally harmless request. A gay SG is just the same as an all female SG or a magic themed SG. This issue is only a big deal if YOU make it a big deal. A persons sexuality is a none issue to me but most of the world makes it an issue. Hence homosexuals feel the need to group together for support and to share experiences (Even within an MMO which is highly social). A gay SG isn't about saying HEY LOOK AT ME IM GAY! It's about playing with other gay players which can be hard to find in the gameing world.
I hope the OP does find a gay SG in which they can have lots of fun with.
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Originally Posted by Solitaire_NA
A gay SG isn't about saying HEY LOOK AT ME IM GAY! It's about playing with other gay players which can be hard to find in the gameing world.
I hope the OP does find a gay SG in which they can have lots of fun with. |
surely playing with some one you get along with is more important than what that some ones sexual orientation is.
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Originally Posted by Solitaire_NA
I hope the OP does find a gay SG in which they can have lots of fun with.
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@Golden Girl
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I can't speak for the OP you'd have to ask him/her. You don't need to look for a heterosexual SG cause heterosexuals aren't an oppressed minority. Heterosexuality is showcased in film, tv, music, literature, and video games. As I said several times oppressed miniorities tend to group together for support and to share experiences even within an MMO. |
Originally Posted by TheMESS
But why dose he have to find other gay players to play with? It may just be me but when i start a new MMO i don't head of to find heterosexual players to play with if anything a ilook for players that i share interests with and that i get along with.
surely playing with some one you get along with is more important than what that some ones sexual orientation is. |
The real question is why does it bother you that the OP would want to find a gay SG? If it doesn't bother you then I don't see where the issue is.
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Originally Posted by Golden_Girl_EU
I think the No Horrid Gurls Society is still recruiting - not sure what server they're on though
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Well it seems I've managed to offend some one (go me)
It seems they believe that I've made "Terrible posts bordering on homophobia"
really now have I? I'm pretty sure the general undertone of my posts have been one of understanding Yes i advised the OP not to create a exclusively Gay SG but if you want to go re-read the post i was not offering that advice because of some kind of homophobia I was trying to get across that the people should matter not there sexual preference.
Was that wrong? maybe we should stay all segregated up in our little groups?
Any ways whoever you are if your still reading this please drop me a PM i would love to know what made me come across as a homophob.
This whole "but straight people..." argument is tiresome. Straight people have no reason to want to specifically search out and talk to other straight people as that criteria alone does not help them relate to that individual any more than searching out people who are right handed.
Gay people who search out other gay people can, in many cases, relate better than with other individuals. Whether it be through similar life experiences or current events affecting gay people, it's just a nice way to find someone who might understand you a little more than some random stranger (although this is definitely not always the case). Doing this by making a gay SG is by no means intended to shun poor straight people (such an oppressed minority, right?) and it shouldn't be taken that way.
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what exactly do you mean by "Heterosexuality is showcased in film, tv, music, literature, and video games" Im pretty sure Homosexuality gets its fair share of screen time as well of the top of my head there's Broke back mountain that was a pretty big film, There's Torch wood in the UK lead character in that was bisexual and was up till the last episode in a same sex relationship, there was some TV show a while back Queer as folk possibly never watched it my self (it didn't involve scifi or horror so was of zero interest to me), there was Kinky boots not a huge film but still it got a cinema release, Oh and how could i forget the rocky horror picture show, In gaming I'm not so sure i normally play FPS but i believe same sex relation ships were possible in the Simms.|
Originally Posted by Solitaire_NA
I can't speak for the OP you'd have to ask him/her. You don't need to look for a heterosexual SG cause heterosexuals aren't an oppressed minority. Heterosexuality is showcased in film, tv, music, literature, and video games. As I said several times oppressed miniorities tend to group together for support and to share experiences even within an MMO.
The real question is why does it bother you that the OP would want to find a gay SG? If it doesn't bother you then I don't see where the issue is. |
So its out there yes Its probably not got as big a share of the pie but then most mainstream entertainment is going to go after its biggest market if its biggest market is strait 20 somethings things are going to be slanted towards them.
But that's not discrimination that's marketing and economics which are entirely different forms of EVIL
As to your question i have no issue with the OPs quest to find a gay SG other than i believed that creating a gay only SG was a bad idea as he would be further segregation him self from the player base i instead suggested he create a SG that was accepting of all regardless of weather they be gay or strait
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"Heterosexuality is showcased in film, tv, music, literature, and video games" is pretty self explanatory. Everything you mentioned is a drop in the bucket.|
Originally Posted by TheMESS
what exactly do you mean by "Heterosexuality is showcased in film, tv, music, literature, and video games" Im pretty sure Homosexuality gets its fair share of screen time as well of the top of my head there's Broke back mountain that was a pretty big film, There's Torch wood in the UK lead character in that was bisexual and was up till the last episode in a same sex relationship, there was some TV show a while back Queer as folk possibly never watched it my self (it didn't involve scifi or horror so was of zero interest to me), there was Kinky boots not a huge film but still it got a cinema release, Oh and how could i forget the rocky horror picture show, In gaming I'm not so sure i normally play FPS but i believe same sex relation ships were possible in the Simms.
So its out there yes Its probably not got as big a share of the pie but then most mainstream entertainment is going to go after its biggest market if its biggest market is strait 20 somethings things are going to be slanted towards them. But that's not discrimination that's marketing and economics which are entirely different forms of EVIL As to your question i have no issue with the OPs quest to find a gay SG other than i believed that creating a gay only SG was a bad idea as he would be further segregation him self from the player base i instead suggested he create a SG that was accepting of all regardless of weather they be gay or strait |
For the second part of your post I refer you to Chan_ post which sums up why a person would want to join a gay sg.
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This whole "but straight people..." argument is tiresome. Straight people have no reason to want to specifically search out and talk to other straight people as that criteria alone does not help them relate to that individual any more than searching out people who are right handed.
Gay people who search out other gay people can, in many cases, relate better than with other individuals. Whether it be through similar life experiences or current events affecting gay people, it's just a nice way to find someone who might understand you a little more than some random stranger (although this is definitely not always the case). Doing this by making a gay SG is by no means intended to shun poor straight people (such an oppressed minority, right?) and it shouldn't be taken that way. |
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The very post the OP made is about bringing RL into the game of which I am like "why bother?" not so much the forums and the subject isn't keeping me in this thread so much as you are.|
Originally Posted by psychabilly
I shall say this simply so you can understand.
You said you were leaving the thread (which obviously didn't happen) as we were entering the realms of real life. YOU bought up the subject of Pride in the first place, so therefore you started the whole real life bit in the first place, though to be honest, quite why you are even posting here as the whole thread is about stuff that is happening in real and gaming life, is beyond me. If you have nothing constructive to say, then maybe you should do what you suggested previously. Bye Girlfriend |
On topic, there is no need for a separate group based on sexuality in a game.
There is no need for real life issues to be discussed or flaunted in a game.
The next time someone tries chatting me up I will tell them what sad individuals they must be and to **** off.
Everyone should be looked upon as just another player really.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Then why even bother identifying the SG as a gay one? Seems rather pointless to me and only serves to make yourselves stand out. Attention seeking for want of a better phrase.|
Originally Posted by Solitaire_NA
Joining a Gay SG is NOT about segregation. Gay SGs ARE part of the COH community. They do not exist in a gay bubble in which straight people are not allowed. The GLBT community IS accepting off all people that includes heterosexuals. Many heterosexuals work within the GLBT community. Gay SGs are no different. I encourage you to join a gay SG to see what they're all about. You'll be surprised to see how "normal" they are and how every other word in the SG isn't GAY GAY GAY GAY.
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Folks, it's a computer game. Just what does a persons sexuality have to do with beating up bad guys, hmm?
@FloatingFatMan
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Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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