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before we start getting all worried about the poor innocent children i suggest any one concerned for there innocence go's and reads this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/te...00/8181443.stm

and then tell me the little darlings are innocent.
They have to learn it from somewhere. People only know what they are taught, see, hear. Now, if you don't mind, you guys can leave me out of this conversation. Have fun attacking someone else.


 

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Aw, my post earned me my first rep. And it even was negative! *proud*


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Is there any way to change the title of this thread?
Seriously, I am almost offended this crap hasn't been taken down yet.

Change it to GLBT or SOMETHING.


 

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Is there any way to change the title of this thread?
Seriously, I am almost offended this crap hasn't been taken down yet.

Change it to GLBT or SOMETHING.
What's offensive about it? It's mildly annoying that it's spelled "G-A-Y", sure, but that's only because the thread starter though the word gay was banned. It WAS on the old forums...


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People don't go about advertising heterosexual pride through cities flashing their wares and so on and so I don't get it with homosexuals who do that.
One of the original reasons for Pride was... well now I'm having to go and get all historical (from a UK perspective): being gay was illegal. You could get put in prison for it. It was also considered a mental illness. Then it was legalised. Hooray? Not really. There was still immense pressure from the police, the Christian Church (in general) and the authorities and gay men and women were persecuted. So in a pub, called The Stonewall, a group of gay men and lesbians decided that they would march against what they saw as unfair treatment by the police. This eventually developed into Pride.

It's arguable that a man and a woman kissing in the street or even just holding hands is 'heterosexual pride' - free from discrimination and all that. Think that discrimination is gone? Not a chance. As Damz has rightly said, there's always going to be some bigot looking for trouble.

Also Pride today is not exclusively for one gender preference. Families go, all sorts of groups including Gay Christians go, men who like men, women who like women, women who like men who like women etc.

To dismiss Pride as stated above is, in my mind, pretty much the same thing as the person standing in the bar who says: "I'm not racist, but..." It's the intolerance - the silent and often unconscious bigotry - that is still a problem for the gay community who are often seen either as butch lesbians or effeminate men. Not as people first.

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Why anyone needs to make a social, sexual statement in a computer game though is beyond me.
Why not? Free country and all that.

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Is the game a pulling tool?
I'm not quite sure what's being got at there. Are all gays, bisexuals, lesbians and transgendered people more interested in sex than the straight population? I've been pestered twice in 4 years for 'cyber' and not because I'm gay, but because my character was female.

Also there are far better ways (i.e. Gaydar) to pick up.

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If you scare them by saying things like "I'll attack you from behind if you don't give me 1283747382332 Inf!" then... yes.
And that is a perfect example, joking or not, of why Pride is important. "Backs to the walls!" and other comments are really insulting. Even if they're meant in jest, they're not always received in the same way. Especially over the Internet.

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And to the OP, I'm not aware of any LGBTU groups. Were you thinking in terms of the players themselves being LGBTU or the characters? There are a fair few roleplayed characters who are gay but, this being an MMO and also the wonderful World of the Internet, I'm not sure how many would be comfortable joinign a group. You could always set one up and I'd be happy to join (Defiant or Union). Call it 'Triangle' or something similar and that should go over the majority of straight folks's heads, if that's what was desired.


 

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This is a discussion not for a game forum IMO. The looking for a ga y SG is fine, the rest isn't. I figure if people want things like this in game or talk about these things there are games out there for people like that(people hooked up on sex and having a goofy need for others to know what they like, like anyone should care. Need to keep that stuff to yourself). Just search adult games and you'll find all the sex happiness you want, and i'm sure they have forums too where sex talk is appropriate.
This your first post on the thread Cherokee. You cast the first stone. You accused the thread of being about Sex. You are the one we've been trying to talk some sense into. You are not being attacked. You have a nice day.


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This your first post on the thread Cherokee. You cast the first stone. You accused the thread of being about Sex. You are the one we've been trying to talk some sense into. You are not being attacked. You have a nice day.

Oh god, people just cant leave crap alone.


I will have a nice day, my days are all nice with the work I do.

Take care and God bless. May He heap many blessings opon you.


 

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Take care and God bless. May He heap many blessings opon you.
Now now, don't bring religion into it, or you'll REALLY start a forum argument!


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Now now, don't bring religion into it, or you'll REALLY start a forum argument!
I thought that was the point of his posts tbh. There's a word for people like that...Outcasts? Lost?


 

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Take care and God bless. May He heap many men upon you.
Fixed, to fit in with the rampant lust that's flooding the thread.


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Oh god, people just cant leave crap alone.


I will have a nice day, my days are all nice with the work I do.

Take care and God bless. May He heap many blessings opon you.
Besides, he loves us, sitting up there in his pink chiffon and feather boa, even with the beard ))


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This thread is ridiculous, really.

In an ideal world, it should have gone something like this:

Post One: "I'm looking for a gay supergroup!"
Post Two: "I have one!"/"I don't know of any, sorry."/"Join mine! It's not specifically a GLBT supergroup, but it's frickin' awesome!"

Why it had to turn into a debate is beyond me. So you don't think specific GLBT SGs should exist? So what? I don't think Catgirl SGs (or, in fact, catgirls) should exist, but there are a ton of them, and there's nothing I can do about it bar avoid them like the plague. And the other lot, you're in support - good for you! Why not create one for the OP and anyone else looking for one?

And for freakin' sake, GLBT SGs are no more discriminatory against straight men/women as Catgirl SGs are against sane people.


 

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This thread is ridiculous, really.

In an ideal world, it should have gone something like this:

Post One: "I'm looking for a gay supergroup!"
Post Two: "I have one!"/"I don't know of any, sorry."/"Join mine! It's not specifically a GLBT supergroup, but it's frickin' awesome!"

Why it had to turn into a debate is beyond me. So you don't think specific GLBT SGs should exist? So what? I don't think Catgirl SGs (or, in fact, catgirls) should exist, but there are a ton of them, and there's nothing I can do about it bar avoid them like the plague. And the other lot, you're in support - good for you! Why not create one for the OP and anyone else looking for one?

And for freakin' sake, GLBT SGs are no more discriminatory against straight men/women as Catgirl SGs are against sane people.
Watch what you say, you might be attacked. I have been called and ******* and an outcast for no reason, just for warning them that the thread could be locked and sexual prefrence isnt for a game forum.

Oh yeah, I forgot the NA, EU threads was combined, no wonder. Never been called names before this. I guess its common over there.


 

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Watch what you say, you might be attacked. I have been called and ******* and an outcast for no reason, just for warning them that the thread could be locked and sexual prefrence isnt for a game forum.
I'm sorry, this is a forum. Sexual preference isn't up for discussion? Oh well, I suppose I'd better put my paper bag on my head, hang the 'unclean' sign round my neck and trundle back into the darkness of the closet for your personal preference.


 

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I'm just keeping you honest. Hate if you must.


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Oh yeah, I forgot the NA, EU threads was combined, no wonder. Never been called names before this. I guess its common over there.
The irony is that you were called a troll and an outcast by someone who gives their location as Texas. Last I checked that was in the US and the poster has made reference to their SGs/channels on the US servers - so this has absolutely nothing to do with the NA/EU merger.

So no need to blame those pesky Europeans.


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Well 15 pages later and Im just wondering if Fayth has found a sg that they like? Or if this person has given up even looking at this after the first couple of negitive responses? To all those who kept the conversation polite and non judgemental I give my thanks. Pride is strength.


 

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This thread is ridiculous, really.
It's a DISCUSSION forum, Stase. People like to DISCUSS things. If you don't like it, go read another thread, hmm?


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The irony is that you were called a troll and an outcast by someone who gives their location as Texas. Last I checked that was in the US and the poster has made reference to their SGs/channels on the US servers - so this has absolutely nothing to do with the NA/EU merger.

So no need to blame those pesky Europeans.
I think he was implying that he's from the Euro-Side. I appreciate it, but it is all I've called him, and I think I'm only one of a few NA users to comment on him. The Rest have for the most part been EU users. So that's the real amusement of it all.


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Watch what you say, you might be attacked. I have been called and ******* and an outcast for no reason, just for warning them that the thread could be locked and sexual prefrence isnt for a game forum.

Oh yeah, I forgot the NA, EU threads was combined, no wonder. Never been called names before this. I guess its common over there.
You werent being attacked at all, just disagreed with because: -

a) You cant read

b) You are not even sure what you said to begin with

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c) I get the impression from your words that you probably just dont want any discussion regarding gay matters at all.

It is not a thread about sex, otherwise a lot of us would have stopped it anyway. Dont try to mislead people into thinking it is about something it is not, then cry indignant just because most of the others here have the intelligence to know you are wrong and have told you so in what is actually a calm dignified manner.

I will go now and let you carry on crying victim....................

(Oh yeah and for your information, you dont exactly do your nation justice..........thick is thick no matter where you come from)


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The irony is that you were called a troll and an outcast by someone who gives their location as Texas. Last I checked that was in the US and the poster has made reference to their SGs/channels on the US servers - so this has absolutely nothing to do with the NA/EU merger.

So no need to blame those pesky Europeans.
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It's a difference of opinion. I, for instance, don't believe a person's sexual preference should be a defining feature of them. If I were having a conversation with someone, and asked them to describe themselves, and they said, "I'm gay", I'd think that person was incredibly boring. And while I don't believe anyone should be prevented from discussing their sexual preference, I'd find the conversation incredibly tedious.

The personal attacks on Cherokee are very confusing, I'm reading exactly the same posts as you lot, and all I see is his (his? her?) belief sexual preference isn't a valid topic for the CITY OF HEROES AND VILLAINS game forums, absolutely nothing about having to keep your orientation a secret. Just how often can it come up in context, honestly?


 

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It's a DISCUSSION forum, Stase. People like to DISCUSS things. If you don't like it, go read another thread, hmm?
I'm aware it's a discussion forum - and I am reading other threads. Unfortunately, there are so many of them, I'm getting quite lost.

It's not the discussion I have a problem with, it's the debate and attacking Cherokee for his/her opinion. In my experience, threads like these always turn into arguments - and often times for decent reasons. But this one looks like a bunch of people attacking one another for the slightest thing. If anyone had said anything derogatory, I'd understand - be upset, but understand. But no one has and that sort of makes this whole thing rather silly.