What will a MA arc need to gain 5 stars?

Judgement_Dave · 03-04-2009 03:21 PM

Theoretically they can pick any - practically I bet if MA is a success that after the 1st coupl eof months they'll use HoF (or at least a high mean average rating) to help them decide which to look at with their limited time.

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Steel Dancer · 03-04-2009 04:58 PM

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consistency and fulidity is gonna be the key for me to mark high (and only american spellings (yes i know they are in the game and it winds me up espically aboout "The Honouree (and yes it should have a "u" in it espically as hes waring a union flag) will not recieve nething higher than 3stars)

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The only problem with that being that it wouldn't then be an anagram of Hero One of course...

Um, you may want to check your own spelling kettle before calling out the american pot

And if something needs a thousand votes plus, how will any of the villain missions ever get into HoF or Dev Choice? semi-serious on that, not sure what it's like in the US but over here teams, while gettable aren't exactly that common either.

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PRAF68_EU · 03-04-2009 05:02 PM

You don't have to play a villain to do a villainous mission. All missions are available to everyone.

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Steel Dancer · 03-04-2009 05:10 PM

Ah, must have misread something then. Could've sworn there was something about where missions were set.

Blowed if I know where I saw it though

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Judgement_Dave · 03-04-2009 05:12 PM

The designer screens we've seen showed something like morality or inclination (e.g. Heroic) but that was just descriptive - either side can do any mission.

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bluedarky · 03-04-2009 06:28 PM

For me to give an arc 5 stars, it needs to be engaging, (I have to care about the people involved for example), relatively original (All ideas are taken in some form, you need to make them fresh and interesting again when you write original fiction), fun to play and to have a normal XP curve (first mission easy, last mission hardest) as well as having a well writen story, (Go, Hunt, Kill, Skuls! does not count as a backstory ).

I will not be issuing 5 stars very often at all if I can help it.

_Saphi_ · 03-04-2009 07:01 PM

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consistency and fulidity is gonna be the key for me to mark high (and only american spellings (yes i know they are in the game and it winds me up espically aboout "The Honouree (and yes it should have a "u" in it espically as hes waring a union flag) will not recieve nething higher than 3stars)

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The only problem with that being that it wouldn't then be an anagram of Hero One of course...

Um, you may want to check your own spelling kettle before calling out the american pot

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lol hero one honoree (never saw that thanks for point that out (its still bastardisation though union flag and no "u" thats bad :P (yes im being just as pedantic as you)

and as for my speeling, no i dont give a dam about it on here, but in the MA i will give a damn becoz i know how picky some ppl can be

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SteelRat · 03-05-2009 05:09 AM

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and as for my speeling, no i dont give a dam about it on here, but in the MA i will give a damn becoz i know how picky some ppl can be

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I'm picky about my spelling too. Picky about not coming across as a sloppy, lazy, uneducated retard.

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Judgement_Dave · 03-05-2009 07:43 AM

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lol hero one honoree (never saw that thanks for point that out (its still bastardisation though union flag and no "u" thats bad :P (yes im being just as pedantic as you)

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Alongside the comic cover of a riktified Hero One, the anagram was the big clue to the big bads identity. Hard to believe you didn't know about it!

BTW - Lose a couple of points for your lack of capitalisation and misuse of parentheses (3 opening but only a single closing bracket)

But also gain a ten point bonus for using Union Flag rather than Union Jack.

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Sugar_Rush · 03-05-2009 07:55 AM

No cave maps.

LunaWisp · 03-05-2009 08:00 AM

Any arc that has 5 kill-all's in a row will get blasted by me!
I also hope that we don't get successive missions in opposite corners of the world.

As for content, I'm waiting to be pleasantly surprised. Has to be something in keeping with the overall CoX theme but different from the old missions that we've all become accustomed to. Sounds like a toughie and I haven't come up with anything yet.

Judgement_Dave · 03-05-2009 08:16 AM

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Any arc that has 5 kill-all's in a row will get blasted by me!
I also hope that we don't get successive missions in opposite corners of the world.

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A bit off blasting any arc that has 5 kill alls... what if the story is well written and they're 5 kill alls on small maps?

And the doors won't be in opposite corners of the world - missions are, AFAIK, entered inside the AE building.

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_Saphi_ · 03-05-2009 08:16 AM

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and as for my speeling, no i dont give a dam about it on here, but in the MA i will give a damn becoz i know how picky some ppl can be

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I'm picky about my spelling too. Picky about not coming across as a sloppy, lazy, uneducated retard.

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i hope this doesnt refer to me ( no i dont have a degree but i do have A-levels)

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_Saphi_ · 03-05-2009 08:17 AM

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Any arc that has 5 kill-all's in a row will get blasted by me!
I also hope that we don't get successive missions in opposite corners of the world.

As for content, I'm waiting to be pleasantly surprised. Has to be something in keeping with the overall CoX theme but different from the old missions that we've all become accustomed to. Sounds like a toughie and I haven't come up with anything yet.

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what about 5 KAs in a cave map with the lovely doughnut ring

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Carnifax · 03-05-2009 08:18 AM

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Any arc that has 5 kill-all's in a row will get blasted by me!
I also hope that we don't get successive missions in opposite corners of the world.

As for content, I'm waiting to be pleasantly surprised. Has to be something in keeping with the overall CoX theme but different from the old missions that we've all become accustomed to. Sounds like a toughie and I haven't come up with anything yet.

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LunaWisp · 03-05-2009 01:09 PM

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I'll make one brimful of snipers just for you Cal

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lol you have a memory like an elephant...I haven't mentioned snipers in an age...damn things...

LunaWisp · 03-05-2009 01:11 PM

I dislike kill-alls because the game STILL allows mobs to spawn or get knocked into impossible to reach places and they don't always manage to extricate themselves. You then can't complete the mission.

Judgement_Dave · 03-05-2009 01:15 PM

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I dislike kill-alls because the game STILL allows mobs to spawn or get knocked into impossible to reach places and they don't always manage to extricate themselves. You then can't complete the mission.

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But surely an arc shouldn't really be marked down due to what's effectively a bug in the game?

Possibly lose some style marks for odd clipping issues that can be seen at test time (and characters redesigned to avoid) but the stuck mob bug may not even be encountered during testing...

On a seperate note - yup: it's about time the devs do something about the stuck mob in kill alls. Heaven knows that there's been enough suggestions for possible solutions.

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PRAF68_EU · 03-05-2009 01:20 PM

Kill All missions are sometimes needed for story reasons, but it should be avoided when the plot doesn't require it. Not only because it can be teadious sometimes, but also because it tends to dilute other, more complex and interesting objectives.

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Judgement_Dave · 03-05-2009 01:32 PM

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Kill All missions are sometimes needed for story reasons, but it should be avoided when the plot doesn't require it. Not only because it can be teadious sometimes, but also because it tends to dilute other, more complex and interesting objectives.

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Oh I agree that they aren't neccesarily needed and can be tedious, but I was coming from the jumping off point of Calamity stating Any arc that has 5 kill-all's in a row will get blasted by me! which seemed a little too harsh.

I don't plan on making arcs with 5 kill alls, but, at the same time, if there's an otherwise good arc with some sort of plot rationale for the missions all being kill alls then I don't think the arc should really be marked down. Heck maybe coming up with a good plot reason for the kill alls should get extra credit!

OTOH doing kill alls from laziness shouldn't really cut it - but at the same time if laziness is the driving force then I'd guess that other aspects of the arc would suffer as well.

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PRAF68_EU · 03-05-2009 01:34 PM

It's easy to have plot reasons for kill alls.

Building infested by monsters? If you don't kill the lot of them they will just breed more.

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Carnifax · 03-05-2009 01:35 PM

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It's easy to have plot reasons for kill alls.

Building infested by monsters? If you don't kill the lot of them they will just breed more.

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Twisted Pokemon. Gotta kill em all!! (although stuffing them in airtight balls will probably do that anyway)

Gangrel_EU · 03-05-2009 02:38 PM

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It's easy to have plot reasons for kill alls.

Building infested by monsters? If you don't kill the lot of them they will just breed more.

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Twisted Pokemon. Gotta kill em all!! (although stuffing them in airtight balls will probably do that anyway)

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Stuffs Carnifac into an air tight ball

Mr_Marvellous · 03-05-2009 02:44 PM

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It's easy to have plot reasons for kill alls.

Building infested by monsters? If you don't kill the lot of them they will just breed more.

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Twisted Pokemon. Gotta kill em all!! (although stuffing them in airtight balls will probably do that anyway)

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Stuffs Carnifac into an air tight ball

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Talking of air tight balls, I have these really nice batman boxer shorts...

... OK, I'll stop now.

Carnifax · 03-05-2009 02:47 PM

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It's easy to have plot reasons for kill alls.

Building infested by monsters? If you don't kill the lot of them they will just breed more.

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Twisted Pokemon. Gotta kill em all!! (although stuffing them in airtight balls will probably do that anyway)

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Stuffs Carnifac into an air tight ball

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Talking of air tight balls, I have these really nice batman boxer shorts...

... OK, I'll stop now.

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Ack. Mind bleach

(and no way I'm getting stuffed in THERE!)

And to drag this topic screaming back onto topic here's a US post on how to get 5 stars