OH and more respec options too BTW!
It would be nice to get some actual significant content just for villains. Most we've seen in an age is the VEAT arcs which you can glaze through with your eyes shut because its so short.
As it stands villains have no 10-15 TF what so ever, it would be nice to have another mid range and higher TF as well as you can burn out the content fairly fast. Ages ago I suggested something of a lowbie TF in another thread where there could be one on mercy or PO where you go off to learn more of the piracy in the Rogue Isles of old, heres a nice simple one then.
Smugglers Caves
Mishes all on mercy and PO, use the dead pirates, corallax and the snakes with ease. If ya want defeats can use corallax or pirates for that and maybe have some old pirate lord as the end AV and hey presto how long did that content take to theorise and work into the existing pathenon of vill continuity - minutes!
Yet we still lack 9 TFs worth of content along with all the zone conent. Maybe this would be a good place to get those villain players not happy with being ignored rather epicly with our greatly reduced content and fob-off coop content to try and get something for us for once. Interesting isn't it when the heroes didnt have STF and vills had LRSF they added one for them but low and behold 18 TFs obviously wasnt enough hero content. While we villains are left to suffer 10.... hmmm....
[ QUOTE ]
OH and more respec options too BTW!
[/ QUOTE ]
Sorry, don't follow that one - the villain respec options are pretty well matched to the hero ones already.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
OH and more respec options too BTW!
[/ QUOTE ]
Sorry, don't follow that one - the villain respec options are pretty well matched to the hero ones already.
[/ QUOTE ]
Villains have one extra don't they, via the Patrons one?
I point to Paragon wiki with reference to trials!
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
OH and more respec options too BTW!
[/ QUOTE ]
Sorry, don't follow that one - the villain respec options are pretty well matched to the hero ones already.
[/ QUOTE ]
Villains have one extra don't they, via the Patrons one?
[/ QUOTE ]
I'd confidently say "sort of" - IMHO the Patron TF's more an incidental benefit for running the arc than an end in itself. And, unlike "real" respec runs, it's only given to the mission holder.
There's the free SoA respec at 20 too, so again while it's not exactly a trial the villains are ahead.
i REfer to Pargon wiki for the amount, oh and heroes get more merit rewards too!
[ QUOTE ]
I point to Paragon wiki with reference to trials!
[/ QUOTE ]
Well, no, you don't; this points at the wiki reference to trials. 
If you meant "more trials for villains" in your earlier post, fair enough - you said "more respec options" though, which is a different thing altogether.
[ QUOTE ]
i REfer to Pargon wiki for the amount, oh and heroes get more merit rewards too!
[/ QUOTE ]
Do they get more merit rewards per hour though doing TFs instead of SFs?
In other words are the Hero ones giving higher rewards because you've to spend twice the time doing the things? (see Posi or any of the Shadow Shard TFs for details)
I know the Caps SF I did took about 90 mins, but I think the reward for that has been a bit "Katiefied" as people were speed running it in 30, which does hurt casual players not speed running it a fair bit (unfairly IMO)
To be honest with you I'm more of a fan of co-op TF/SFs now than ones for one side or the other. In terms of benefitting the most number of players it seems the most efficent in developer hours, plus I love the dynamic of things like a team of Controllers and MMs, or Khelds and Brutes etc.
I'd like to see a co-op tf set in Dark Astoria for both heroes and villains vs Banished and Tsoo myself.
Cavern of Transcendence 6 merits
Terra Volta: Jane Hallaway
Captain James Harlan } 25 merits!
Major Richard Flagg
Sewer Trial 25 merits
Eden trial 2 merits
Perhaps i missunderstand the ratio difference but from wat i see we only have 3 True respecs that give anywhere as many merits as hero counterpart and even thats imbalanced with its reward of 15 merits to heroes 25 do u not agree?
trials/ respecs Perhaps cos the only trial we get are RESPECS oh well my fault for misquoting but who cares still know wat i meant and the point still stands
[ QUOTE ]
Do they get more merit rewards per hour though doing TFs instead of SFs?
[/ QUOTE ]
Nope, some of the hero ones are just interminably long.
I really should do something about this signature.
[ QUOTE ]
trials/ respecs Perhaps cos the only trial we get are RESPECS oh well my fault for misquoting but who cares still know wat i meant and the point still stands
[/ QUOTE ]
Respecs are the only content on either side that ever gave trial rewards.
[ QUOTE ]
Terra Volta: Jane Hallaway
Captain James Harlan } 25 merits!
Major Richard Flagg
[/ QUOTE ]
1st, 2nd and 3rd respec. They are all as similar as the villain 1st, 2nd and 3rd respec are to each other.
Officially, villains do have another trial: Hamidon.
In reality, there is no difference between TFs, SFs and Trials.
I really should do something about this signature.
[ QUOTE ]
trials/ respecs Perhaps cos the only trial we get are RESPECS oh well my fault for misquoting but who cares still know wat i meant and the point still stands
[/ QUOTE ]
Ah, the respec trials, got ya. Going on the rewards the devs seem to be saying the Villain one takes 60% of the time the hero one does, I've no idea if that's true or not, I've never done it.
The Heroes one has a ridiculously overlong, dull ending where you wait to be attacked, it takes ages between spawns. So maybe that is skewing the Devs famous Merits Rewarded = Average Time to Complete equation?
If it is then yes, they should both be equal, for the Heroes side you spend ages sitting around doing nothing for a greater merit reward, which hardly seems right.
[ QUOTE ]
trials/ respecs Perhaps cos the only trial we get are RESPECS oh well my fault for misquoting but who cares still know wat i meant and the point still stands
[/ QUOTE ]
Well, we needed to tease out what you meant via half a dozen posts that would otherwise have been unnecessary, but as long as you don't care I guess that's OK.
HAmidon?????? LOL just appeared to be more trials on heroes, guess i need glasses:P
Yes we get hamidon, yet another thing thats both sides and doesn't actually count to this rant whatsoever.
And people moan about the length of the trials etc they hate blueside but at least you have the option. We got 9 TFs less content to not do and thus the reason vill TFs take 60% less time is because we got nowt else to do and know them like the back of our hands as we lack 9 others to mix it up!
[ QUOTE ]
Yes we get hamidon, yet another thing thats both sides and doesn't actually count to this rant whatsoever.
And people moan about the length of the trials etc they hate blueside but at least you have the option. We got 9 TFs less content to not do and thus the reason vill TFs take 60% less time is because we got nowt else to do and know them like the back of our hands as we lack 9 others to mix it up!
[/ QUOTE ]
I wonder if the lack of dev support in adding new SFs has a lot to do with the fact that fewer people play villains? It's just not worth their while.
But certainly there should be a SF for every level range in the game IMO.
AYE yes lets get to the finer point :P
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Yes we get hamidon, yet another thing thats both sides and doesn't actually count to this rant whatsoever.
And people moan about the length of the trials etc they hate blueside but at least you have the option. We got 9 TFs less content to not do and thus the reason vill TFs take 60% less time is because we got nowt else to do and know them like the back of our hands as we lack 9 others to mix it up!
[/ QUOTE ]
I wonder if the lack of dev support in adding new SFs has a lot to do with the fact that fewer people play villains? It's just not worth their while.
But certainly there should be a SF for every level range in the game IMO.
[/ QUOTE ]
Actually i wonder after MArch, if we will get any new TF or SF at all.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I wonder if the lack of dev support in adding new SFs has a lot to do with the fact that fewer people play villains? It's just not worth their while.
But certainly there should be a SF for every level range in the game IMO.
[/ QUOTE ]
Perhaps if they evened up the numbers on our side then more peeeps wud play vills? :P 
Villains are lacking a 40-45 TF, that's really it. Quality>Quantity.
[ QUOTE ]
Villains are lacking a 40-45 TF, that's really it. Quality>Quantity.
[/ QUOTE ]
I disagree, we miss a 10-15 one as well.
Some more options would be great. Just add 10-15 and 40-45 and I will be semi happy.
Because I don't deny you heroes the awful 10 Meaning Positron and co and the Shadowshard fun.
But us villains need loving to.
Ok, let villains have Positron, Dr Quaterfield and Justin Augustine. Heroes have more TF's, true, but they make up for it with some monumentally bad ones.
�How do I like my MMOs? I like them the way Paragon Studios used to make them.� - a fitting tribute from kiasa.org
EU, Union mostly.
Ok i wait for every new issue to come out hoping in vain for a little more equality between the amount of Strikeforces there are to villains in relation to heroes! Please can we have some to cover more Lvl ranges, and have more that are for us vills only---- not just increase the options for Heroes instead E.g Lady Grey and ITF.
IMBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 Villain strikeforces to 19!!!! (YES 19!)Taskforces for Heroes really needs Sorting IMHO PLease PLease Please Please with whipped cream and cherries on top, can this be considered?!!!!