Buying Level Pact - 100 Million Inf
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Baby_Phoenix,
Posted on: 2008-12-19 12:06 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Has been done on the US forums before these and the Developers haven't said anything against it GrinningSpade. Therefore, I don't see where the problem lays.
Personally, I don't have anything against it, but at the moment, I wouldn't partake of it. As much of a grind as the road to 50 is getting after I've managed to level 13 toons/goons to level 50, I'd still like to see how the powers develop for new alts, even if the story arcs on both sides are getting a bit stale. 
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I know that the Developers haven't spoken against it. I know it is not forbidden. Despite all that. I still think it is a bit pathetic to make use of such a service. Plus I still think this is not the place to advertise such a service.
By all means, let the devs make a special forum for trading influence and while they are at it. Let them put ads on that threat for pro leveling farmer services if they like. Maybe it brings in extra revenue who knows. 
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Then blank it out. Deny that it exists. Just stop moaning about it, because no matter how much you moan vs something which isn't against the EULA and the devs haven't said so much as the word "naughty" to, it ain't gonna do anything. Except provoke/instigate a 'right or wrong' argument (which will eventually get locked).
Yes, you may think it is wrong. Others think different. Live with it. (apologies for not wrapping my words in cotton wool)
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I guess there are pros and cons to both arguments
Should it be allowed? What is not forbidden is permitted, so clearly it's ok to do - but having looked at most of the replies I'd say most responders are at the very least, uncomfortable with it.
However the OP is quite within his rights to post such an ad (at the current time - I have a feeling that may change) it seems to me to be frankly a bit silly to pay for a subscription to a game which is still largely about the levelling process and then to pay somebody else do play it for you.
However, horses for courses and some people want a 50 at all costs, and if they can afford it and somebody will take the money (which as has been pointed out isn't a huge amount for effectively 100 levels - even with the increase - especially as the financial reward gets split between 2 toons) then good for them.
Howver my main concern is that this is letting the free market override the game. To me, there's not a huge amount of difference between this and paying a power-levelling company real money to get you to 50 (and to my knowledge that IS forbidden.)
But, so long as players don't want to make an effort, that's how it's gonna be, so better here than giving money to somebody in Beiging to play City of Heroes on your behalf I guess
As the quote says: you pays your money and takes your choice.
Thelonious Monk
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Should it be allowed? What is not forbidden is permitted, so clearly it's ok to do - but having looked at most of the replies I'd say most responders are at the very least, uncomfortable with it.
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To be perfectly honest, I don't really care if people feel uncomfortable about it. I'm looking for someone to provide a service. When someone does, there need not be anymore talk about it. If you don't like it, just completely ignore this post and pretend it doesn't exist.
As I stated in the first post, I'm perfectly within my rights to do what I'm doing. I've given a reason for doing it, and I don't need to explain myself anymore.
Just a side note, this isn't an attack on your or anything Scarlet, its to everyone that feels the need to try and tell me what I am doing is so horribly wrong.
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Should it be allowed? What is not forbidden is permitted, so clearly it's ok to do - but having looked at most of the replies I'd say most responders are at the very least, uncomfortable with it.
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To be perfectly honest, I don't really care if people feel uncomfortable about it. I'm looking for someone to provide a service. When someone does, there need not be anymore talk about it. If you don't like it, just completely ignore this post and pretend it doesn't exist.
As I stated in the first post, I'm perfectly within my rights to do what I'm doing. I've given a reason for doing it, and I don't need to explain myself anymore.
Just a side note, this isn't an attack on your or anything Scarlet, its to everyone that feels the need to try and tell me what I am doing is so horribly wrong.
[/ QUOTE ]i would of done it kinenetical i don't see anything wrong with it it just i don't have any free toon space atm sorry 
i though alot of people would of take this up by now as i always hear i leveled out my contacts on so and so oh well 
im interested. more to see if i can do it now i have lots of free time....
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Should it be allowed? What is not forbidden is permitted, so clearly it's ok to do - but having looked at most of the replies I'd say most responders are at the very least, uncomfortable with it.
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To be perfectly honest, I don't really care if people feel uncomfortable about it. I'm looking for someone to provide a service. When someone does, there need not be anymore talk about it. If you don't like it, just completely ignore this post and pretend it doesn't exist.
As I stated in the first post, I'm perfectly within my rights to do what I'm doing. I've given a reason for doing it, and I don't need to explain myself anymore.
Just a side note, this isn't an attack on your or anything Scarlet, its to everyone that feels the need to try and tell me what I am doing is so horribly wrong.
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It's not forbidden (yet) so you are in your full rights to do this. No argument there. You pay for the game you decide how to play it.
But we ARE on a gliding scale here. If this is allowed, why not the use of Pro Life farmers? Why not allow the use of bots? Is there really that much difference between paying 100 mil inf or say a few Euro?
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Should it be allowed? What is not forbidden is permitted, so clearly it's ok to do - but having looked at most of the replies I'd say most responders are at the very least, uncomfortable with it.
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To be perfectly honest, I don't really care if people feel uncomfortable about it. I'm looking for someone to provide a service. When someone does, there need not be anymore talk about it. If you don't like it, just completely ignore this post and pretend it doesn't exist.
As I stated in the first post, I'm perfectly within my rights to do what I'm doing. I've given a reason for doing it, and I don't need to explain myself anymore.
Just a side note, this isn't an attack on your or anything Scarlet, its to everyone that feels the need to try and tell me what I am doing is so horribly wrong.
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It's not forbidden (yet) so you are in your full rights to do this. No argument there. You pay for the game you decide how to play it.
But we ARE on a gliding scale here. If this is allowed, why not the use of Pro Life farmers? Why not allow the use of bots? Is there really that much difference between paying 100 mil inf or say a few Euro?
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One is legal and one isn't. That's the only difference that matters.
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Should it be allowed? What is not forbidden is permitted, so clearly it's ok to do - but having looked at most of the replies I'd say most responders are at the very least, uncomfortable with it.
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To be perfectly honest, I don't really care if people feel uncomfortable about it. I'm looking for someone to provide a service. When someone does, there need not be anymore talk about it. If you don't like it, just completely ignore this post and pretend it doesn't exist.
As I stated in the first post, I'm perfectly within my rights to do what I'm doing. I've given a reason for doing it, and I don't need to explain myself anymore.
Just a side note, this isn't an attack on your or anything Scarlet, its to everyone that feels the need to try and tell me what I am doing is so horribly wrong.
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It's not forbidden (yet) so you are in your full rights to do this. No argument there. You pay for the game you decide how to play it.
But we ARE on a gliding scale here. If this is allowed, why not the use of Pro Life farmers? Why not allow the use of bots? Is there really that much difference between paying 100 mil inf or say a few Euro?
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The fact that inf is in game currency is why I don't view it as a problem. We already have a system in which someone does the work and other people pay inf for the benefit called the auction house. This is just an extension of inf position as an actual currency, something which has been slowly developing since the start of the game where first off certain enhancements were only available from contact shops, so you had to play to your origin (I cant remember which ones probably the moment speeds and tohit debuffs but I am very hazy on this) to all enhancements from all the shops, to the auction house. The fact you've been able to trade in game for as long as I can remember means people could always charge for their work in influence, its just now there's actually a mechanic which people are actually willing to pay for.
Then I remember SGs requiring people to stay in SG mode all the way and providing inf for their enhancements when bases first came out.
Its how the game seems to be evolving. The fact I wouldn't pay anyone to PL a character for me, and if I was to do one for someone else I'd want a hell of a lot more than the going rate, has nothing to do with it.
Now people paying pounds or euro's for it I object to. But they've spent time earning the in game inf, how they spend that to benefit them in game is up to them. And if people can get someone an alt to 50 faster than they can get 100 mil inf for themselves then both parties are coming out well from the deal.
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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Should it be allowed? What is not forbidden is permitted, so clearly it's ok to do - but having looked at most of the replies I'd say most responders are at the very least, uncomfortable with it.
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To be perfectly honest, I don't really care if people feel uncomfortable about it. I'm looking for someone to provide a service. When someone does, there need not be anymore talk about it. If you don't like it, just completely ignore this post and pretend it doesn't exist.
As I stated in the first post, I'm perfectly within my rights to do what I'm doing. I've given a reason for doing it, and I don't need to explain myself anymore.
Just a side note, this isn't an attack on your or anything Scarlet, its to everyone that feels the need to try and tell me what I am doing is so horribly wrong.
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It's not forbidden (yet) so you are in your full rights to do this. No argument there. You pay for the game you decide how to play it.
But we ARE on a gliding scale here. If this is allowed, why not the use of Pro Life farmers? Why not allow the use of bots? Is there really that much difference between paying 100 mil inf or say a few Euro?
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One is legal and one isn't. That's the only difference that matters.
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It's legal to kill a scotsman who walks through York City holding a bow and arrow......but it's not like anyone is going to do that is it? 
......Anyway, whether you are for or against it, I don't think there is anyway to stop it without ending the levelling pact so posts like this are probably here to stay......
But, IF someone accepts your 150 mill inf to do this for you, you are getting a right bargain.
Consider this, ingame currency has a real life value. A quick search of the web and you'll find 150 million inf valued around US$45. These same websites offer services to get you to 45 at around US$150. Therefore, you should be offering around 500 million inf.
So, whoever agrees to do this for you is a mug and you're laughing all the way to Wentworths.
one thing you do need to be careful of is what happens if the person is unable to make it for some reason? do they only get paid once the level 45 is reached? What about targets? level 30 by xx/xx? 40 by xx/xx? What if the person cuts the pact? Any influence up front? Only payment upon completion with noa dvance and if you're not level 45 within 8 weeks then no money is paid? You need to really think this through.
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@Miss Chief
Maybe you could divide the sum by the number of levels you wanted, then log in every day or so to check on the progress, and pay per level that had been completed?
@Golden Girl
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one thing you do need to be careful of is what happens if the person is unable to make it for some reason? do they only get paid once the level 45 is reached? What about targets? level 30 by xx/xx? 40 by xx/xx? What if the person cuts the pact? Any influence up front? Only payment upon completion with noa dvance and if you're not level 45 within 8 weeks then no money is paid? You need to really think this through.
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Already thought of this.
20 mil if I cancel level 20 or below.
30 mil if I cancel level 30 or below.
50 mil if I cancel level 30 or below.
70 mil if I cancel level 40 or below.
This is just for peace of mind though- I will not be cancelling 
If you cancel, you will receive a small fraction of the payment. This is to stop people, for example, planning to just cancel at level 30 and get the money for this. Obviously this will change in exceptional circumstances. No need for targets, other than 45 within 6 weeks. Also, I will deduct 2 million off the 150 for every day over 6 weeks you take.
I have had 2 PMs so far asking for more details so we'll see how it goes
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something which has been slowly developing since the start of the game where first off certain enhancements were only available from contact shops, so you had to play to your origin (I cant remember which ones probably the moment speeds and tohit debuffs but I am very hazy on this)
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Jesus, I'd forgotten about the power-10 thing back in the day. That was awful.
The more open the economy in the game gets, the better.
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The more open the economy in the game gets, the better.
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Yes, no financial regulation is the way ahead
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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one thing you do need to be careful of is what happens if the person is unable to make it for some reason? do they only get paid once the level 45 is reached? What about targets? level 30 by xx/xx? 40 by xx/xx? What if the person cuts the pact? Any influence up front? Only payment upon completion with noa dvance and if you're not level 45 within 8 weeks then no money is paid? You need to really think this through.
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Already thought of this.
20 mil if I cancel level 20 or below.
30 mil if I cancel level 30 or below.
50 mil if I cancel level 30 or below.
70 mil if I cancel level 40 or below.
This is just for peace of mind though- I will not be cancelling
If you cancel, you will receive a small fraction of the payment. This is to stop people, for example, planning to just cancel at level 30 and get the money for this. Obviously this will change in exceptional circumstances. No need for targets, other than 45 within 6 weeks. Also, I will deduct 2 million off the 150 for every day over 6 weeks you take.
I have had 2 PMs so far asking for more details so we'll see how it goes
[/ QUOTE ]this is where things will start to go wrong if you change the rules halfway though a pact.
either way you both can lose out on it but your the one more like to become out on top as you you the payer, if you change the rules....all the other person can do is quit the pact
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this is where things will start to go wrong if you change the rules halfway though a pact.
either way you both can lose out on it but your the one more like to become out on top as you you the payer, if you change the rules....all the other person can do is quit the pact
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None of these will be changing half way through. These are the rules that myself and my new pact buddy have agreed on.
Yes that's right, I now have a pact buddy Thanks for reading everyone.
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this is where things will start to go wrong if you change the rules halfway though a pact.
either way you both can lose out on it but your the one more like to become out on top as you you the payer, if you change the rules....all the other person can do is quit the pact
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None of these will be changing half way through. These are the rules that myself and my new pact buddy have agreed on.
Yes that's right, I now have a pact buddy Thanks for reading everyone.
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It's legal to kill a scotsman who walks through York City holding a bow and arrow......but it's not like anyone is going to do that is it?
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Only because they refuse to hold the bow when I ask them to.
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this is why i dont play the game anymore, advertising for PL on the forums, im just going to cancel my subscription and wait for champions.
Really what has happened to this game and its community!! whats wrong with finishing your current toon then playing the one you want to get next, you know by actually doing the hard (well not so hard anymore!) work yourself.
getting to 50 used to be an event now you have people that have been "playing" for a month with 5 50s with about 100 hrs playing time, that have only seen PI and one farming mission.
Have fun people, and happy hunting
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It's legal to kill a scotsman who walks through York City holding a bow and arrow......but it's not like anyone is going to do that is it?
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The real kicker is they must also be wearing a kilt and on the bar walls, tried for years to get my ex to fulfill all of this but he wouldn't.
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something which has been slowly developing since the start of the game where first off certain enhancements were only available from contact shops, so you had to play to your origin (I cant remember which ones probably the moment speeds and tohit debuffs but I am very hazy on this)
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Jesus, I'd forgotten about the power-10 thing back in the day. That was awful.
The more open the economy in the game gets, the better.
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First character was a Rad/Rad defender and I seemed to have 5to buy more from contacts than from shops
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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Just an aside: "Getting to level 45 in six weeks is easy"? "100 million inf isn't hard to come by"?
Am I playing the same game as everyone else?
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My thoughts exactly. Took me two years to get my first 50 and another year to get the second one. And getting 30 million inf for that last LotG recipe on Flitz took about another six.
UNION @Flitz 50, Lead Hose 50, Red Rag 50
DEFIANT Rose Bloodthorn 34
VIGILANCE Captain Caledonia 20 - Yeah, I made toons on the French server coz we only had 4 back then (might have to transfer/recreate them on one of the US servers)
..and many more!
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this is why i dont play the game anymore, advertising for PL on the forums, im just going to cancel my subscription and wait for champions.
Really what has happened to this game and its community!! whats wrong with finishing your current toon then playing the one you want to get next, you know by actually doing the hard (well not so hard anymore!) work yourself.
getting to 50 used to be an event now you have people that have been "playing" for a month with 5 50s with about 100 hrs playing time, that have only seen PI and one farming mission.
Have fun people, and happy hunting
[/ QUOTE ]haha you not going to stop pl with this post and i think you find you got a very very very very very very very long wait for CO
Why don't you hire them to do your house cleaning as well, since you can put up any kind of trash here now.
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