Zombie Invasion - triggered all year..but by what?

TsumijuZero · 11-05-2008 08:58 PM

I wouldn't have thought costume slot redemption would have triggered an invasion, as they are finite in rescource, something repeatable that is common hero and villainside is far more likely, just need to figure out what!

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Days_ · 11-05-2008 09:16 PM

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I do hope the Villain trigger is defeating Caleb.

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I'm game if you want to test this.

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Me too

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Judgement_Dave · 11-05-2008 09:48 PM

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I just traded in some Halloween salvage on heroes and straight away zombie attacks sprung up in Faultline and Mercy.

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WoW!

And at 12:26 (according to the forums). That's at about the same time that I was at work dealing with users having a problem with using a specific livelink workflow...

Do you think that that's related?

Do you?

No...

...I didn't either.

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OV_ohms · 11-05-2008 10:34 PM

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I just traded in some Halloween salvage on heroes and straight away zombie attacks sprung up in Faultline and Mercy.

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WoW!

And at 12:26 (according to the forums). That's at about the same time that I was at work dealing with users having a problem with using a specific livelink workflow...

Do you think that that's related?

Do you?

No...

...I didn't either.

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Oh I see testing and sharing what we find isn't the way to figure it out. Making smart alec, sarcastic posts is the way to go, got it.

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MarquandDance · 11-06-2008 10:12 AM

I've made a post on the union villains board about a caleb hunt tonight if anyone wants to join in.

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Dr_Toerag · 11-06-2008 11:01 AM

Hmmm, I reckon it must be related in some way to Halloween salvage, or getting the BP Masks badge. Or maybe....

Something else?

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Judgement_Dave · 11-06-2008 11:14 AM

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Oh I see testing and sharing what we find isn't the way to figure it out.

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It is - but it's not neccesarily a good idea to post every time an invasion follows a fairly common event. We'd end up with more noise than signal.

Within a week we'd have reports of people who saw an invasion as soon as they'd bought a purple IO, defeated GM 'x', completed TF 'y', completed arc 'z', etc etc

Now reporting invasions following rare events or multiple observations of them following a more common event may be far more valuable in locating the trigger.

So if you'd seen invasions start immediately after claiming the halloween costume slot on several occasions then it'd be well worth mentioning as a possible trigger. Mentioning it after it's happened once.. not so worth mentioning.

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Making smart alec, sarcastic posts is the way to go, got it.

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Usually works for me.

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OV_ohms · 11-06-2008 12:02 PM

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So if you'd seen invasions start immediately after claiming the halloween costume slot on several occasions then it'd be well worth mentioning as a possible trigger. Mentioning it after it's happened once.. not so worth mentioning.

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From the link in the OP and the reason for me mentioning it:

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Just turned in Halloween salvage for the slot and immediately followed by a Zombie Invasion.

Edit for clarification: Level 10 toon for the second slot.

Edit for second test: Gave the salvage to a friend, unlocked fourth slot on his toon, no invasion. The previous invasion was still active, which I don't know played a part in it. At this point, with numerous people turnin' it in right after it's ended, we believe there's a timer involved. Not sure the time frame.

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I just unlocked my level 50 PB's 4th slot and a zombie invasion happened immediately on Triumph.

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Just had someone do one on Guardian, turning in salvage - immediate invasion

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We confirmed on Victory that it appears to be related to the after in-game midnight turnin.

We had one character turn in the salvage during the day and then a second turn it in after midnight. We got a zombie invasion in Croatoa and Cap immediately upon the midnight turn-in.

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Heart Attack · 11-06-2008 01:55 PM

Given that the Rikti Invasions can be triggered by completion of the Lady Grey Task force it would make sense that if they reused the code then another task force might trigger the Zombie invasions.

Of course that all falls down as there is not Undead theamed Coop TF

I suppose it could be the Katie Tf on Blue side. Is there a red side TF that deals with Undead or something magical?

Or could it be one of the Ouberous TFs?

Judgement_Dave · 11-06-2008 02:01 PM

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From the link in the OP and the reason for me mentioning it:

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Hands up - I admit I'm a noob.

I foolishly assumed that the OP link was to GR hinting at the 2nd trigger and so from stupid, incorrect assumptions continued to make a complete [expletive deleted] of myself.

A night of pre-birthday celebratory ciders with work collegues probably also helped me attain this state of noobness...

My apologies. You were quite right and I was quite wrong to go anywhere near forums last night...

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SingStar · 11-06-2008 02:05 PM

Hmm, just fyi:
Every time I've overthrown the 5th column (ouro 2nd villain SF) there's been a zombie invasion shortly after I've exited the last mission. (at least 3 times)

Now, It would seem a rather strange trigger imho, so I'm inclined to believe it's still a rather strange coincidense, but... ...well, now you know!

OV_ohms · 11-06-2008 02:21 PM

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From the link in the OP and the reason for me mentioning it:

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Hands up - I admit I'm a noob.

I foolishly assumed that the OP link was to GR hinting at the 2nd trigger and so from stupid, incorrect assumptions continued to make a complete [expletive deleted] of myself.

A night of pre-birthday celebratory ciders with work collegues probably also helped me attain this state of noobness...

My apologies. You were quite right and I was quite wrong to go anywhere near forums last night...

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No worries, my original post would have seemed a bit odd if you hadn't read the (rather lengthy) linked thread.

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LunaWisp · 11-06-2008 03:17 PM

No no no no no, they're triggered by me logging out.

Judging by my success at actually seeing one...

MarquandDance · 11-06-2008 06:12 PM

Tried spawning Caleb again (solo this time) to see if killing him caused a spawn. Didn't manage to get him to appear but I tried killing ghosts during the night just incase the instructions I got for Caleb were wrong. Not sure how many I killed during the night but a zombie invasion started up in Nerva before day time.
Could be coincidence of course, but I didn't see any zone alert (other people must have cos the zone soon filled up) and the mobs in thorn isle didn't disappear the way they are meant to during a zombie invasion.

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Fiend Space: 211464

Scarlet Shocker · 11-26-2008 08:05 AM

There was a raid in Boomtown a couple of days ago. Have we sussed out what triggers them yet?

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PRAF68_EU · 11-26-2008 08:06 AM

Pretty much established it's crafting a 5 costume slot I think.

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Ravenswing · 11-26-2008 08:37 AM

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Pretty much established it's crafting a 5 costume slot I think.

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Well... that mildly sucks.

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The_MESS · 11-26-2008 08:53 AM

I think its crafting any costume slot not just the 5th

Lady Arete · 11-26-2008 09:17 AM

Well I did try it out on a char. Gave the salvage to the witch. BUT there was no immidiate zombie invasion. So my guess is, perhaps a number of costume salvage must be given.. then it triggers?

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PRAF68_EU · 11-26-2008 09:20 AM

It doesn't trigger if there has already been one triggerd within a certain time limit.

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Scarlet Shocker · 11-26-2008 10:07 AM

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It doesn't trigger if there has already been one triggerd within a certain time limit.

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Which is...?

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Ravenswing · 11-26-2008 10:25 AM

From the looks of the ideas people are coming up with on that thread, if they are correct, that's got to be the most utterly stupid mechanism for spawning an 'even' I've ever heard of.

However, I also suspect that it's wrong.

Way too many "I had it happen as soon as I turned in salvage" to go with the "it happens at the first turn in after midnight."

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Scarlet Shocker · 11-26-2008 10:29 AM

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From the looks of the ideas people are coming up with on that thread, if they are correct, that's got to be the most utterly stupid mechanism for spawning an 'even' I've ever heard of.

However, I also suspect that it's wrong.

Way too many "I had it happen as soon as I turned in salvage" to go with the "it happens at the first turn in after midnight."

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I tend to agree but in the absence of anything concrete it's plenty to speculate at

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Ravenswing · 11-26-2008 10:32 AM

*sniff* Actually, I'd describe it as "no real data to speculate with."

The only great pleasure I take there is that, if they are actually right, it means the probability of Zombie invasions actually bothering me at all is between nothing and zero, which I find appealing.

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Golden Girl · 11-26-2008 12:42 PM

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*sniff* Actually, I'd describe it as "no real data to speculate with."

The only great pleasure I take there is that, if they are actually right, it means the probability of Zombie invasions actually bothering me at all is between nothing and zero, which I find appealing.

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*Transfers millions of Inf*

*Buys piles of Halloween salvage*

*Goes to Croatoa*

*Waits*

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