Most underdeveloped enemy group?
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Posted on: 2008-07-15 14:12 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
There's a graveyard in kings Row, which is the Skulls main hangout zone - but there doesn't seem to be anything made of that in any of the mission text.
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maybe use them to foreshadow the Banished Panteon.
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You said it right there. Unless something has been added I haven't found, I still say the BP are the most unfulfilled villain group in the game (hero side anyway). So much potential for high-end content, but they just sit there in one tiny little band of missions and then vanish again.
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The BP do appear in a portal mission hero side 45-50 but that's it. Perhaps a mid-range co-op TF where Skulls, BP and Tsoo all come together to create some sort of Demon summoning deal? perhaps even the Devil himself? hmm, perhaps that might skirt a bit too close to the religious side that would create uproar in some parts of the US.
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Have to say three groups really I'ld want to see more off, the Knives of Artemis, with their own proper Arc, the Skulls and the Hellions, always loved those two gangs.
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The BP do appear in a portal mission hero side 45-50 but that's it. Perhaps a mid-range co-op TF where Skulls, BP and Tsoo all come together to create some sort of Demon summoning deal? perhaps even the Devil himself? hmm, perhaps that might skirt a bit too close to the religious side that would create uproar in some parts of the US.
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the Tsoo are ancestor worshipers, not daemon worshipers...
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three groups really I'ld want to see more of(.....)the Skulls and the Hellions
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i think i would die of laughter if "The Coming Storm" is a hellion/skulls plot for world domination
Coralax.
Seriously, do something with them! They're in about 2 missions for pete's sake!
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I would definately agree with coralax.
Perhaps Minions of Igneous too. A breif painful flirt with them in the Hollows, and then vanish.
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three groups really I'ld want to see more of(.....)the Skulls and the Hellions
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i think i would die of laughter if "The Coming Storm" is a hellion/skulls plot for world domination
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:O Don't spoil the i14 plot!.... Hellions take over the Storm Palace
Legacy Chain, they rock but not enough of them in the game
Knives of Artimis only have 3 different mob names too excluding their named bosses
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Legacy Chain, they rock but not enough of them in the game
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Well, they're hanging out in the Hollows now - are any of the new Hollows missions connected to them at all?
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When the mission creator arrives, I may be able to fulfill my idea of Coralax vs Legacy chain villain arc. I mean, that bad boy practically writes itself!
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Legacy Chain, they rock but not enough of them in the game
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Well, they're hanging out in the Hollows now - are any of the new Hollows missions connected to them at all?
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Couldn't tell you, the hollows may have changed its looks but its kept the broadcast that always put me off before
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
You could try enduring it for the few seconds it takes to enter, see the new contact and run to the mission door 
@Golden Girl
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You could try enduring it for the few seconds it takes to enter, see the new contact and run to the mission door
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I always forget to turn it back on, which gets annoying around Striga level
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
Then write a reminder note and stick it on the side of the monitor
@Golden Girl
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BP get arcs in Striga IIRC, at least one of which gives a temp power to help combat them (Holy Shotgun).
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BP get arcs in Striga IIRC, at least one of which gives a temp power to help combat them (Holy Shotgun).
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Yes, but where's the chainsaw?
The Banished Pantheon would get my vote - so much potential there - we just need some story arcs in Dark Astoria (and maybe Sharkhead too, unless DA goes co-op) and a co-op TF against one of their deities being brought back briefly (Lughebu, Rambetu, etc).
The Legacy Chain and Coralax certainly have more to come as well, though theyre not exactly common in CoV and barely in CoH. The Knives of Artemis possibly need more, but they're basically an auxiliary unit of The Malta Group rather than a faction in their own right (a bit like <Nemesis Automatons> are to <Nemesis>, or the <Freedom Phalanx> & <Vindicators> & <Longbow> are to Freedom Corp).
The Skulls seem a bit less fleshed out than The Hellions, sure - they could probably do with a full story arc blueside to give them parity - but like the Hellions they dont really scale past L10-15 so youre not going to get major epic storylines for them because theyre just a street gang.
And I can guarantee the Coming Storm isnt a Hellion/Skulls plot - hell would have to freeze over before those two gangs worked together. Remember, the 3 competing smuggling cartels in CoH/V are Family/Trolls/Skulls (Superadine drug trade) vs Warriors/Outcasts/Hellions (artefact trade) vs Tsoo (artefacts & Rage drug), but the street gangs have their own turf wars (Skulls vs Hellions, Trolls vs Outcasts).
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The Skulls seem a bit less fleshed out
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Well, that is kinda normal
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Snakes. what about the snakes??
there a few mishes at the start n end but thts it. nothing for heroes either. come one its all a snakes plot and we should stop them.
What about the Hydra?
Or have I missed something?
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What about the Hydra?
Or have I missed something?
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The problem with the Hydra is that while all the other enemy groups can talk, the Hydra just gurgle and squelch, which means missions involving them couldn't be too complex
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What about the Hydra?
Or have I missed something?
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it was locked in the sewers cos of its smell. dam CoT tests.
Which enemy group has the most unfullfilled potential i CoH or CoV? The enemy groups that look interesting, but just never go anywhere. The enemy groups that has a presence, but not story, no impact.
Personally, I have to say either the Knives of Artemis or, perhaps a little surprisingly, the Skulls. The Knives of Artemis are not really explored at all -- they just show up as a change of scenery from Malta -- and while the Skulls have a lot of work done in street scenes and random comments, most of it is "Go. Hunt. Kill Skuls." What's with the necromancy angle? How are they organised? Do they have a leader? Leaders? Where do they get their powers from? How were they started? Where did they come from? Let's have some memorable Skull NPCs, maybe use them to foreshadow the Banished Panteon.