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If somebody told me not to use Rage, and I play an EA Brute, I would tell them where to go (politely of course). I know my toon and it is down to me to 'manage' my crashes. It irks me when I hear people telling others not to use powers.
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If my defence does become a problem, we've always got "Overloaded" to get us out of a jam. I took advice from other players on that power, as didn't have it slotted brilliantly. Now it has 3 Recharge IOs in it.
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Oh and on topic, I added my first ever player to Global Ignore a fortnight ago and I've been playing almost 3 years. So, in my experience abusive players are few and far between. Maybe it's because of this that they really stand out when you do come across one?
[/ QUOTE ]Likewise, only had 1 until recently, now have 2. Both these players turned a debate into an argument then into a slanging match, which lead to /ignore.
If I get to the point where I start getting angry, annoyed, abused or ignored.. then I just quit the team, and move on.
To add onto FFM's point, I also think that PvP sucks IMO, but that may be because a) I'm rubbish at it b)I can't be bothered to make a toon with a PvP build rather than a PvE one and c) Griefing (even though that is much better now than it was before)... but I digress too much.
I think the OP needs to look at how they approach the game, as well as the reactions they get. It takes 2 people to argue, so you can't be 100% innocent.
This thread would have been locked long ago, had Ghostraptor been around.
Main 50 & Badger Nine Claws Claws/Regen/Body
Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus Defender Nilus Scrapper Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker
You all should just kiss and make up...
then take some pictures of it.
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So I was supposed to just post nothing while someone insults me?
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Yup, near enough:
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[GhostRaptor] What to do if you see a problematic post
On multiple occasions over the last few months I've been told that an abusive post was made in self-defence and only because someone else started it. As I have noted above, this is absolutely unacceptable. For future reference, if you see a post that you feel is against the forum rules:
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* If you choose to reply remain civil and simply ignore the objectionable parts of the post and avoid quoting those parts. If the entire post is objectionable, do not reply to the post.
* If you feel further explanation is necessary, or simply wish to discuss a forum-related issue with me, you can send me a Private Message or an email to ghostraptor(at)ncsoft.com.
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And then four days later..unless its a link to porn. Whats a link to porn is something a mod can quickly decide the next move on.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
A motto to live by:
Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.
Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.
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You all should just kiss and make up...
then take some pictures of it.
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But if they have already kissed we would just get pics of them in make up.... ohh, I see 
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A motto to live by:
Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.
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I sometimes just walk away when words get twisted into something you didn't quite mean but must of meant because its what that person thought you meant.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Oh and on topic, I added my first ever player to Global Ignore a fortnight ago and I've been playing almost 3 years. So, in my experience abusive players are few and far between. Maybe it's because of this that they really stand out when you do come across one?
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I don't recall ever putting anyone on /ignore in CoH/V in almost two year's worth of playing (I5-I8, I11-now) - I am quite tolerant though. Sure, I see more arguments on globals now since I got back from my year break from CoH/V (I9-I11), but there are still a lot less aggressive idiots here than in any MMO I've ever played with the exception of EQ2 which had a very mature/polite community (for the first 8-9 months I played it post-beta, anyway - that may have changed when they added PvP 
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In fact I'd never put anyone on /ignore since I started playing MMOs in 1999 until I played WoW last year - I think I filled my /ignore list there inside a month
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To add onto FFM's point, I also think that PvP sucks IMO
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I don't like PvP here and despised it in EverQuest, but I've enjoyed PvP in other MMOs such as Planetside, Dark Age of Camelot and the betas of Pirates of the Burning Sea and Auto Assault. When I see someone say "PvP sucks" my kneejerk reaction is to disagree because it's such an overly generalised and abusive statement - then I wonder if the speaker is having a go at all PvPers in all MMOs or just the ones here - then I wonder what their motives are for bothering to say it at all...
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I think the OP needs to look at how they approach the game, as well as the reactions they get. It takes 2 people to argue, so you can't be 100% innocent.
This thread would have been locked long ago, had Ghostraptor been around.
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Very true on both counts, but I haven't given up all hope that we might get an apology or a slightly less aggrieved admission of guilt from the OP yet - I think it would do his image in the community the world of good.
There are two patents that this thread proves would both make me independantly wealthy:
1. A machine for converting the power of toxic internet bickering into productive energy, and
2. A way of stabbing people in the face across the internets.
Oh, and PvP does suck because I am right, omglolwtfbbq roffle beans etc.
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There are two patents that this thread proves would both make me independantly wealthy:
1. A machine for converting the power of toxic internet bickering into productive energy, and
2. A way of stabbing people in the face across the internets.
Oh, and PvP does suck because I am right, omglolwtfbbq roffle beans etc.
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Whatever you write comes to me with the voice of Zod from Superman II XD.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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There are two patents that this thread proves would both make me independantly wealthy:
1. A machine for converting the power of toxic internet bickering into productive energy, and
2. A way of stabbing people in the face across the internets.
Oh, and PvP does suck because I am right, omglolwtfbbq roffle beans etc.
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Whatever you write comes to me with the voice of Zod from Superman II XD.
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KNEEL BEFORE HELM!
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There are two patents that this thread proves would both make me independantly wealthy:
1. A machine for converting the power of toxic internet bickering into productive energy, and
2. A way of stabbing people in the face across the internets.
Oh, and PvP does suck because I am right, omglolwtfbbq roffle beans etc.
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Whatever you write comes to me with the voice of Zod from Superman II XD.
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KNEEL BEFORE HELM!
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No doesn't work. I want to hear Sir Helm say it
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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There are two patents that this thread proves would both make me independantly wealthy:
1. A machine for converting the power of toxic internet bickering into productive energy, and
2. A way of stabbing people in the face across the internets.
Oh, and PvP does suck because I am right, omglolwtfbbq roffle beans etc.
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Whatever you write comes to me with the voice of Zod from Superman II XD.
[/ QUOTE ]Damn, you Shannon... that's all I think of now too!
Main 50 & Badger Nine Claws Claws/Regen/Body
Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus Defender Nilus Scrapper Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker
Back on topic about aggressive players.
March 13TH 2005, my first cavern trial, I worked it out instantly, 7 other members talking over me, all had the right idea apparently, someone got favoured and it failed.
March 25TH 2005, my second cavern trial, I tried to tell people, 7 other members talking over me, all had the right idea apparently, someone got favoured and it failed.
April 4TH 2005, my third cavern trial, I tried to tell people, 7 other members talking over me, all had the right idea apparently, someone got favoured and it failed.
April 9TH 2005, my fourth cavern trial, I tried to tell people, 7 other members talking over me, all had the right idea apparently, someone got favoured and it failed.
April 15TH 2005, my fifth cavern trial, I tried to tell people, 7 other members talking over me, all had the right idea apparently, someone got favoured and it failed.
April 18TH 2005, my sixth cavern trial, I tried to tell people, 7 other members talking over me, all had the right idea apparently, someone got favoured and it failed.
April 25TH 2005, my seventh cavern trial, I tried to tell people, 7 other members talking over me, all had the right idea apparently, someone got favoured and it failed.
I am agressive.
But I was made by n00bs!
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Now. The Son of Jor-El will be my slave... forever. If not, the millions of Formumites you protect shall pay for your defiance.
Frankly I'd pay good money to hear Terrance Stamp say, "omglolwtfbbq."
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Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.
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I sometimes just walk away when words get twisted into something you didn't quite mean but must of meant because its what that person thought you meant.
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I completely agree with this. There's been a number of times where I've wanted to post replies to confrontational members of this board disputin ridiculous statements or arguments they've made. Usually my inner self stops me, prevents me from feeding the trolls! "But what if no one calls him on this, he may think he's won!" I may say to myself. But of course if I respond, then I can never win. It is after all, an argument on the interwebs! There are no winners there
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Twitter me!
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The only piece of advice I've ever listened to about playing my Eng/Eng blaster is "Fly above them, turn it into knockDOWN, please!".
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That was me! 
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Now. The Son of Jor-El will be my slave... forever. If not, the millions of Formumites you protect shall pay for your defiance.
Frankly I'd pay good money to hear Terrance Stamp say, "omglolwtfbbq."
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Now that is proper forum Dramah!
Shadowplay - Scrapper DM/DA SL 50
Doctor Storm- Brute SS/Elec SL 50
"speed boosts someone in the face" - Cognito
This thread hurts my brain...
It steps all over the "no personal attacks" rules for these forums. While I'm here at the NCNC offices I'd rather spend my time on more important things than moderating threads like this, so for now I'm going to simply close it.
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). But then there are players who thrive off confrontation and if you're not one of them, as you're protesting here, then you have to be aware of what might happen if you start feeding others with antagonistic statements and how that can reflect what others think of you.
These rants I go on about ingame (The EA sucks one makes my Blood boil because I've been scammed into there crappy buggy games more then once) And the PVP sucks one was only 2 sentances
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But if you make snappy statements when you admit to being in a bad mood at the time ("makes my blood boil"), are you surprised that other people might see you as volatile?
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and I actually proved my point by going to RV's Last night and I got killed by some Troller who then proceeded to gloat in Broadcast
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most of the time It's some 13 year old kid that dropped out of school to perfect his l33t ub3r pvp skills and then gloats afterwards" (Note, that's not the *exact* line I posted at the time, but it's more or less got the same overall picture)
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But really you proved nothing except that yes you'll run into some egotistical braggarts sometimes in PvP - <shocker!> Taking that and spinning it into a hasty generalisation that "PvP sucks" is equivalent to, after your bad ITF experience, coming onto global and saying "all TF's suck" or "all PvE player's suck" or "PvE sucks". What kind of response do you think those statements would have on a global channel?
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Last night when I typed that I was in abit of a hasty rush, I wasn't thinking to clearly about what I was typing and hit the first thing that came to my mind
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You can rationalise these things all you want, but when you speak on a global channel or a forum you have to accept that some people will see your initial antagonistic statement, but then might not get to see (or if they've already judged you, not bother paying attention to) the rest of your "explanation", or when a day or so later you might (try to) explain yourself on a forum.
If you type ill-judged things out, with no thought as to how they'll impact others, on a global channel then you have to accept that others may form a negative opinion of you. It wouldn't matter if you and Biscuits were best bosom buddies from way back, most people wouldn't know that even if it were true, and you can't use (assumed) familiarity with one player to excuse anything you say on a global channel - in /tells yes, maybe even in /team or /guild, but the more people who are reading/watching, the more people there are that can judge you based purely off that one sentence.
We've all seen what happens when players try to use global channels as their own personal playground and it's rarely pretty - sometimes it can reflect poorly on a whole supergroup or even a section of the playerbase (yes, that was a dig at the Arena channel
Your ITF just sounds like a total clusterfrak - sure, they take a lot of the blame if what you said is true (but I'm sure there will be bias in there - how could there not be?), but from your own words you don't come off as entirely blameless either. Unless you know a powerset intimately well, through having played it to top level, then you probably shouldn't go around chucking out advice about it as gospel truth.
I'd just chalk up that ITF to experience (we've all had bad TFs) and move on.