I13 Features - Place your bets...

Mad_Mud · 06-21-2008 08:48 PM

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energy should be yellow

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To name the two most obvious "energy blasters", neither Silver Surfer nor Iron Man's energy blasts are yellow, and energy isn't yellow, so why did you pick yellow in particular?

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Because the energy in Dragon Ball Z is yellow, ergo all energy must be yellow. I think is what he was getting at.

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don't know if it was mantioned but wasn't bananamans powers yellow

Mad_Mud · 06-21-2008 08:52 PM

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if only there was a water blaster..

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Yay! Even if the rest did not make sense, the love for Water Blast is still there! xD

Water Blast for i13! Or at least in the future sometime soon. . . xP i13 & i14 are meant to be HUGE; its possible! ¬ _ ¬

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this may be a bit previous but maybe i should go make a name holder toon wet dreams

CactusBrawler · 06-22-2008 01:42 AM

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Not strictly true... Iron Man has had various different coloured repulsor rays including yellow over time

[/ QUOTE ]Which is certainly not a reason why Energy Blast "should" be yellow.

If anything, the Corruptor version should be red for thematic sense and to match Dominators. And, well, because I and at least some people think it'd just be cool. (And they did it for Corruptor Elec Blast)

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Red for 'Death Rays' , blue for good guy powers.

Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.

Fanservice · 06-22-2008 03:04 PM

Would make infiltration difficult if people's powers were colour coded.

"My god, Ena Me's energy blasts are blue! Quick! Pin her down! Break her legs! No no her other legs!"

Col_Blitzkrieger · 06-22-2008 03:54 PM

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Would make infiltration difficult if people's powers were colour coded.

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_Lukas_ · 06-23-2008 08:59 AM

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Water Power sets would be awesome ;o) Then again with all talk of the original origins in the tales along the way from the midnight club may well open this up....

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That's early groundwork for adding Incarnates in future... probably

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Yup, probably for the people who got Poseidons powers from the well

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This would mean an underwater zone

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This would mean covering 2 frequently suggested / wanted features

@Lukas

_Lukas_ · 06-23-2008 09:00 AM

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energy should be yellow

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To name the two most obvious "energy blasters", neither Silver Surfer nor Iron Man's energy blasts are yellow, and energy isn't yellow, so why did you pick yellow in particular?

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Because the energy in Dragon Ball Z is yellow, ergo all energy must be yellow. I think is what he was getting at.

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lol @ Dragon Ball Z

@Lukas

Buzz_Sting · 06-23-2008 09:20 AM

I'd like to see Broad Swords Proliferated for Tanks and Brutes. Also the inclusion of the Talosian Bows for purchase from Vanguard.

PRAF68_EU · 06-23-2008 09:51 AM

The bows are in the next patch.

I would lay very good odds that you get your other wish in issue 13 too.

I really should do something about this signature.

_Lukas_ · 06-23-2008 09:54 AM

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I would lay very good odds that you get your other wish in issue 13 too.

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Same, they'll most likely add BS to Tankers and Brutes to match thematically with the new Shield set

@Lukas

Lord Mayhem · 06-23-2008 02:10 PM

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Same, they'll most likely add BS to Tankers and Brutes to match thematically with the new Shield set

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Yeah it's very likely. And if Scrappers get Shields (as I believe they will) then I wouldn't be shocked to see Battle Axe, and probably War Mace too, being proliferated to Scrappers in I13 as well - so that Brutes/Tankers/Scrappers all have the same 3 weapon+shield options.

_Lukas_ · 06-24-2008 05:59 AM

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Same, they'll most likely add BS to Tankers and Brutes to match thematically with the new Shield set

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Yeah it's very likely. And if Scrappers get Shields (as I believe they will) then I wouldn't be shocked to see Battle Axe, and probably War Mace too, being proliferated to Scrappers in I13 as well - so that Brutes/Tankers/Scrappers all have the same 3 weapon+shield options.

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They'll probably give Stalkers some shiny new set to stop sulks too :P Maybe a weakened Fire Melee?

@Lukas

Heart Attack · 06-24-2008 07:23 AM

I'd like to see Ethereal melee. Basically a melee set where you phase shift your hand/feet reach inside a target de-shift and pull something out.

Yes I know in physics terms two bodies sharing the same space should cause a BOOM, but I figure magic tends to ignore phtsics so its possible.

Graphics would be cool too!

SinergyX_EU · 06-24-2008 08:15 AM

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Because the energy in Dragon Ball Z is yellow, ergo all energy must be yellow. I think is what he was getting at.

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No.. Big ol' kamehameha is blue. And that one pwnz all in DBZ, even Cell got defeated by it.

So blue is right choice

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Lord Mayhem · 06-24-2008 01:15 PM

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They'll probably give Stalkers some shiny new set to stop sulks too :P Maybe a weakened Fire Melee?

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Why would they need to weaken it? Stalkers do already have Energy Melee

Stalkers would definitely get the scrapper/brute version of Fire Melee, though (Cremate instead of Combustion), with Placate instead of Confront/Taunt as usual, and then probably the Assassin's Strike replacing Fire Sword Circle (I'd rather it replaced Breath of Fire, but to date it has always been a PBAE that gets replaced).

As for the Fiery Aura secondary, that's tricky - Hide instead of Blazing Aura is obvious, but would they leave in Fiery Embrace as it is (that could make an EM/Fire pretty scary) and what about Burn? Probably less work than porting over Stone or Ice Armour though (Invul might be easier, but with Invinc replaced by Hide it would suck for stalkers).

PRAF68_EU · 06-25-2008 05:24 AM

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I would lay very good odds that you get your other wish in issue 13 too.

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Same, they'll most likely add BS to Tankers and Brutes to match thematically with the new Shield set

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This post yesterday From BAB:

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So... this is a broadsword that is all black and scarey looking and awesome. It would really be the perfect sword for a villain except that.. you know.. villains don't get broadswords... like... at all.

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Yet...

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PRAF68_EU · 06-25-2008 05:33 AM

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As for the Fiery Aura secondary, that's tricky - Hide instead of Blazing Aura is obvious, but would they leave in Fiery Embrace as it is (that could make an EM/Fire pretty scary) and what about Burn? Probably less work than porting over Stone or Ice Armour though (Invul might be easier, but with Invinc replaced by Hide it would suck for stalkers).

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I can't see Stalkers getting Firery Embrace. A double build up AS would be critically umbalancing.

Castle doesn't seem to keen on the idea of GA stalkers:

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So, how would you do it? (implement Stone/Stone Stalkers)

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Granite and Hide are Mutually Exclusive.
Granite = "No Crit Chance"

Or, I'd simply say, "No, it's a bad idea."

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Ice/Ice stalkers on the other hand seem far more likely after the changes in issue 12: Mezzing primary no longer gives unfair advantage to stalker crits, CE could be set to not notify mobs, and hence not supress Hide, and Hibernate-Phase Shift cheesyness now eliminated.

I really should do something about this signature.

Shen__EU · 06-25-2008 06:06 AM

Meh! I would love a Fire stalker

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease Devs?! **puppy dog eyes**

DreamWeaver · 06-25-2008 06:09 AM

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Meh! I would love a Fire stalker

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease Devs?! **puppy dog eyes**

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Don't get me wrong, but I have this feeling that setting people ON FIRE doesn't fit the whole "sneaky" concept. People tend to notice.

Is it time for the dance of joy yet?

Blue Rabbit · 06-25-2008 06:13 AM

Or smell it at the very least.
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PRAF68_EU · 06-25-2008 06:18 AM

Oh, Stalkers will probably get fire eventually, just not with Firey Embrace. But since it needs changes it puts it further down the queue.

Having mentioned Ice, I think it's actually more probable that stalkers get BS/Ivun in this issue (assuming they don't get Shields). I would rather see Ice, because Ivun would be yet another poor stalker defence set.

I really should do something about this signature.

Shen__EU · 06-25-2008 07:04 AM

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Meh! I would love a Fire stalker

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease Devs?! **puppy dog eyes**

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Don't get me wrong, but I have this feeling that setting people ON FIRE doesn't fit the whole "sneaky" concept. People tend to notice.

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But what if your concept was a crazy pyromaniac who likes to set fire to peoples trousers when they're not looking?

Lord Mayhem · 06-25-2008 12:47 PM

I thought BS/Invul was probably a shoe-in for the next two Stalker sets (though Invul is going to suck for stalkers with Invinc removed to put Hide in, as it's always the "toggle aura" they replace), but now I'm starting to lean towards Ice/Ice being equally likely - after all, they've confirmed Stalkers won't get Shields in I13, so there is no immediate need to give them Broadsword.

Also the Devs said Brutes would never get Ice sets (because of the Fury-building issues with -rchg/-spd), but the Ice Armor set in particular would suit Stalkers to a tee (being a mostly def set), though with Ice Melee needing a lot of work to "stalkerise" it. Or maybe they'll get BS/Ice - nobody said they had to proliferate matching sets - they didn't for Doms/Trollers this time round.

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Don't get me wrong, but I have this feeling that setting people ON FIRE doesn't fit the whole "sneaky" concept. People tend to notice.

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Fizzing with electricity doesn't either, but that didn't stop the Devs giving stalkers electric sets.

PRAF68_EU · 06-25-2008 02:08 PM

Other than selecting which power to replace with AS (out of Frost, Freezing Touch or Frozen Aura) I don't see Ice Melee needing any more work to convert than BS. Stalkers can have holds and sleeps now, since they no longer give crits.

I really should do something about this signature.

Chatarsis · 06-25-2008 02:19 PM

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Meh! I would love a Fire stalker

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease Devs?! **puppy dog eyes**

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Don't get me wrong, but I have this feeling that setting people ON FIRE doesn't fit the whole "sneaky" concept. People tend to notice.

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But what if your concept was a crazy pyromaniac who likes to set fire to peoples trousers when they're not looking?

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Sounds like a fire/fire blaster.