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Not good blasters
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Any blasters. Quite easily (and without any of this faceplanting nonsense). And dominators by a massive margin.
I really should do something about this signature.
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Heres an idea - why don't we ask the Powers that Be to leave ALL the current power sets alone and spend the time developing new power sets and new in game content.
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Amen.
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1. Because balancing can take a lot less coding/resources that new content / sets / whatever.
2. Because balancing might just be good for long term health of the game.
Whatever our veiws, the Dev's seem to be consistently striving for balancing with various buffs, nerfs, and buffnerfs.
So whether we like it or not, its probably with us.
Options
1. Pretend its not happening.
2. Accept its happening but do nothing.
3. Accept it has happened but hope it wont continue.
4. Accept its happening and try to give constructive ideas on it.
RUBBISH.
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Amen Amen
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Not good blasters
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Any blasters. Quite easily (and without any of this faceplanting nonsense). And dominators by a massive margin.
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**And back in CoH PRAF68 wakes up in the hospital after a long dream about his roller being able to out blast a blaster**
Oh I accept the Devs will continue to amend the power sets. But I hope for two things:
1) they listen to their customers about what needs changing
2) they put the resource into new content, because I feel this is more benefical to the health of the game.
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Oh I accept the Devs will continue to amend the power sets. But I hope for two things:
1) they listen to their customers about what needs changing
2) they put the resource into new content, because I feel this is more benefical to the health of the game.
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I agree in general but for two points.
Customers, as human beings in general, and even the Dev's, have a tendency to short-sightedness.
E.g. ED cause a HUGE uproar at the time. The Dev's stood firm and I think we have a much better game because of it.
Occassionally, the Dev's have to stand firm in the interest of long term health.
Secondly, the Dev's have access to one thing we don't. Datamining.
I would prefer they used this than listen to a select few forumites whining and moaning. Its unbiased. Not flawless, but unbiased.
also, the customers don't have access to all the information that the developers have.
I really should do something about this signature.
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Any blasters. Quite easily (and without any of this faceplanting nonsense). And dominators by a massive margin.
[/ QUOTE ]I don't think that's entirely true, especially after the revision of Defiance. Blaster damage has increased dramatically and AoE specialist blasters (eg Fire) will easily out damage a controller. They may need a CaB after but the mob still dropped faster.
"In Devs we Trust"
hmmm not sure I like the idea of that - but I think they do a good job (if a little slow at times)
I was very pleased with releases in 2007 - I hope the Dev build on these successes.
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Any blasters. Quite easily (and without any of this faceplanting nonsense). And dominators by a massive margin.
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Oh cmon, you know as well as I do that's an utter lie 
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also, the customers don't have access to all the information that the developers have.
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But you seem to think you do! I've come to notice 
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Because you don't like something or think it is wrong, you want to have it changed! Ok everyone is entitled to there opinions...But this is were I get upset, your calling for a change that will spoil things for people who have no problems with the present state of the troller or how they play the game..Solo/Team
So please if you don't like it as is don't play it and leave the rest of us alone to enjoy something WE also pay for each month.
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The recent blaster changes came in regardless of quite a vocal opposition from people who had no problems with how their blasters played. Personally I was in favour of the changes but I doubt my voice carried much weight with the Devs.
I'm not quite sure how you can say in the same breath that everyone is entitled to their opinion and then go on to say if you don't like the current implementation of an AT keep quiet as I like it.
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But you seem to think you do! I've come to notice
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I seem to recall someone around here going to get a hosepipe...
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I don't think that's entirely true, especially after the revision of Defiance.
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I certainly haven't tested it after the changes to defiance, so you could be right.
I really should do something about this signature.
Anyhow, back OT...
How about a 50% base damage increase to all ST holds / immobilises,
and Reduce containment bonus to 75%?
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Sadly there was a hosepipe ban put in place ......
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But you seem to think you do! I've come to notice
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I don't have access to thier data, but I do pay close attention to what they say on the US forums, and if you pay attention for long enough you would have to be very dim not to get some idea how they think.
I really should do something about this signature.
LMAO
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Illusion doesn't do all that well out of containment, since it only affects a small part of Spectral wounds damage, and Flash is rubbish.
I like my contoller to. I just find it odd that she outdamages blasters.
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If your happy then why start a thread asking to change it?
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The thread title doesn't ask for change. It asks what would you do in the event that you were in the position to affect a change in this inherent. None of us are, but lets pretend.
You I believe are saying you'd lock the containment code in a room, rig all the entrances to blow people to bits if they look inside and leave it untouched for the rest of time... or maybe I'm misinterpreting you.
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I don't think that's entirely true, especially after the revision of Defiance.
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I certainly haven't tested it after the changes to defiance, so you could be right.
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So.......
Why say you can when you havn't tested the latest game version?
Isn't that like saying my blaster in issue 1 could one shot an AV now???
I think someone needs to get off their high horse (no names)and join us in the real world (well Paragon City anyway).
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I certainly haven't tested it after the changes to defiance, so you could be right.
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So.......
Why say you can when you havn't tested the latest game version?
Isn't that like saying my blaster in issue 1 could one shot an AV now???
I think someone needs to get off their high horse (no names)and join us in the real world (well Paragon City anyway).
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Blasters will certainly get closer now - and and some I'm sure will outdamage some Controller builds. But even with the new Defiance they don't get to run at a near-constant 600% base damage from a position of almost complete safety.
Controllers, thanks to containment, do. Which is why I think it needs to be changed.
By my 50s shall ye know me:
Tundra, DVM, The Late, Neutrino Ghost, Sir Clanksalot, End Of Days, Prof. Migraine
Howler Monkey
Where the hell is this complete safety part come from. My farmer dies regually but it doesnt bother me either. The safety of a farming toon comes from the fact that the toon is 50 and debt is irelavant.
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I know I could with the previous version, by a margin greater than the 12.5% buff. It's not an easy thing to set up and test though (part of the problem being oil slick damage not showing in combat logs).
But I notice you are not challenging me on:
Controllers outdamaging Dominators, Defenders, or Stalkers, all of which are listed as medium or high damage ATs, whilst controllers are listed as "low damage" in the in game AT description.
Maybe we should keep containment as is and change the in game description of controllers from low damage to high damage?
I really should do something about this signature.
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Heres an idea - why don't we ask the Powers that Be to leave ALL the current power sets alone and spend the time developing new power sets and new in game content.
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Amen.