Fat and Chubby

Hiya Chat nice to see you back.

You've as much chance of seeing a "fat" model in the game as you have of seeing a "bestial" model in game (probably less actually) as it would require at least 2 new models a male and a female one which would require a boat load of costume pieces to be reworked it would also mean that every new costume piece put into the game would require more work as it would need 5 versions instead of the current 3

A far better option would be some "fat" costume pieces its already been pointed out that its possible to achieve a fairly podgy toon using the baggy clothing options so it should be possible to achieve a "fat" effect using costume parts.

Another option would be for them to create a new female huge model (which to be honest should always have existed i recon) in the same vain as the male huge model.

"The form you submitted is no longer valid"... darn and blast you.

Summary: "Fat" in game as it stands corresponds to weight lifters in the real world. "Thin" in game corresponds to distance runners. In other words, not "fat" or "thin", but just covering the vista of what Joe Public would consider the peak of human physique.

If you want "fat" to be added, using your argument, we should also have a "Visible Rib Cage" slider.

Neither is desirable or practical.

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urgh.

Those images actually made me feel ill.

Not sure if that was a quick reply or not Steel but if it was in reply to my message i never suggested there should be any form of slider added i was simply pointing out that a "fat character can be achieved by using costume pieces

Tho now you mention it a greater range to the sliders would be nice

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urgh.

Those images actually made me feel ill.

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Same. /em puke

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Not sure if that was a quick reply or not Steel but if it was in reply to my message i never suggested there should be any form of slider added i was simply pointing out that a "fat character can be achieved by using costume pieces

Tho now you mention it a greater range to the sliders would be nice

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Nah mate it wasn't.. it was originally a long post in continuation of the discussing between Chat and myself, which ended up in a "Form is No Longer Valid", so I quick replied with a summary in my frustrated haste

I'd really like the option of having plump characters. Muscular females would be nice too.

I don't buy the "they can't be fat because they run all day", how about a fat truck driver that let his thugs do his dirty job (a possible idea for a Thugs MM)?
I don't care if some hyper-sensitive person think it's disgusting/ugly/immoral/offensive/unhealthy/whatever, how do they do when they see overweight people in real life?

I can see one, and only one, valid argument against new body options - technical difficulties. I've worked with 3d animation, so I'm aware of the tremendous amount of possible complications with all motions/emotes and costume pieces.

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I can see one, and only one, valid argument against new body options - technical difficulties. I've worked with 3d animation, so I'm aware of the tremendous amount of possible complications with all motions/emotes and costume pieces.

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Can or Will? This is an MMO about comic super heroes. You don't get fat superheroes or muscular female ones. The options provided cover all aspects covered for the genre that the game is intended for.

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I can see one, and only one, valid argument against new body options - technical difficulties. I've worked with 3d animation, so I'm aware of the tremendous amount of possible complications with all motions/emotes and costume pieces.

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Can or Will? This is an MMO about comic super heroes. You don't get fat superheroes or muscular female ones. The options provided cover all aspects covered for the genre that the game is intended for.

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*logs into giant-sized, chipmunk and four-armed characters...

okay, so maybe not every aspect of the multitude physical aspects of characters in superhero comics is covered.

personally I don't see the need to go as fat as Blob, but it'd be good to be able to give some a bit of a belly or double-chin. costume pieces would probably best for this. maybe a sumo suit added to the boxer clothes vet reward?

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Additionally given the current obsession with health and obesity, even if it was something the majority of players wanted, would NC necessarily think it a good idea to promote and / or glamourise it by including it as an addition to a computer game?

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Last I checked, redside characters make a regular practice of robbing banks, assassinations, revenge killings, gang turf wars... I really don't think eating a lot of pies would be a particularly contentious addition to that list.

I also think the game - although clearly rooted in the Western superhero aesthetic - has strived to go beyond it in places; I'd be delighted if (as a bare minimum amount of work) the body size sliders could be pushed as far as can be done without making the existing costume pieces look ridiculous.

Violence in computer games is nothing new, promoting obesity is (as that is how it would be seen by the current crop of health fascists), and in our current health obsessed climate such a move and subsequent promotion for a new feature would not be wise.

To be honest, I dont have a problem with Tubby/large characters (I am no matchstick either).
But IF they do allow it the fitness pool should be locked off.
ooo controversial.

Seriously tho. SOME people cannot help their size, an underactive thyroid gland can be the cause. not necessarily eating to excess.

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To be honest, I dont have a problem with Tubby/large characters (I am no matchstick either).
But IF they do allow it the fitness pool should be locked off.
ooo controversial.


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Fun fact. Two Ton Tina did survive rather well with no fitness pool.
(and it is a general myth that everyone that is overweight has bad health and no stamina)

Anyways... This is still a lost cause(sadly).

I don't like to dig up an old thread, but because of my d20 don't burst into flames I'm raising this up again.

1. First off, fat is more in the comic world then let's say.... Claws (If I'm wrong please correct me)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._June_2005.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1...blob_super.jpg
http://burnallzombies.files.wordpres...men_ep-241.jpg
http://badgerthegnome.files.wordpres.../12/frog01.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/ermthegreat/68%20CF%201.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...x-Kingpinm.png

And then there's stuff like this
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0...-the_super.jpg
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...y_Satsurou.jpg
http://www.pspsps.tv/fat_princess.jpg
http://bumped.org/tek/wp-content/upl...sims-3-fat.jpg

2. Fat its becoming more... not unclean
http://amydrio.files.wordpress.com/2...l-results1.jpg
http://www.gambling911.com/files/pub...re-030710L.jpg

3. For the promotion of fat toons shouldn't be a problem since they're now promoting demon summoning as a powerset. There's groups that will scorn them for that as well.
Plus there's ways to advertise it correctly like making it so "real people can be heroes too!"

4. CoX is a world where a medival knight can be talking with an alien about how hot cat heroines are and not look odd. If you can't wrap your head around a fat toon having good stamina, then you need to get in touch with reality first before saying no no in CoX.
You don't need to look like a pieces of muscle with a spine in order to have a healthy heart, that's a scientific fact.

5. Toon designs will be really neat. How about these:
Fat Brute fire/stone - he's a big raging volcano!
Fat controller grav/kin - the more gravity affects her the more her powers increase
Fat tank invun/dark - its a robotic 8 ball!
Fat blaster elec/elec - its a big static ball!
Fat stalker DB/Ninja - She's just that damn good!

6. I have alrady made several different fat toons by making a woman out of the huge body set. I have recieved like 99% positive feed back from these toons. And I can't log in without someone saying something it. One guy told me that his g/f really liked my toon!!



I see no real reason we can't have this. Especially with the uber nice graphics coming so that the highly detailed textures can be stretched without loosing too much detail, making it very easy to implement. (compared to other things)

No fattys please.

the problem is it would require new skeletons to be made. you would need new attachment points and everything. and honestly, how many "fat" superheroes do you see running around in comics or movies?

I like big capes and I cannot lie.
You other heroes can deny...

What is the exact time where a thread is old enough to be considered dead and new discussion warrants a new thread?
If you start a new thread about a topic whose last post was Yesterday and only one page back, you get "WHY start a new thread, the last one isn't dead!".

Would it be three days, a couple weeks, longer?

2008 is rather dead, though, I'll give you that.

I thought the Thread necromancy would be okay because all of the below statments are still relevant and just making a new thread that says the same things would be a waste of everyone's time.

This way at least some points are already brought up and we can move on to more recent one like the fact that they actually are now upgrading all the graphics ( Intussusceptor point) and adding in more sliders (TheMess mentioned that)

So where do we go from here now that those problems are out of the way plus the fact that games like the Sims 3 and Fat Princess have paved the way so CoX doesn't have to be the akward frist one.

Why can't I have beautifuly fat toons?

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Originally Posted by Ravenswing Very, very true. However, ignoring this fact and saying that just going ahead and saying "we now allow really fat characters," and just assuming no one will jump on it and say it's promoting obessity is stupid. I don't think you're that stupid, Chat, or nieve. So live with the fact that this isn't the place to be discussing eating disorders, and computer games should not be used to try to solve them either.

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Originally Posted by SteelRat [ QUOTE ] They often say that the character creator in this game is the most comprehensive in the MMO industry(which it isn't but thats not the point), and limiting it with only letting people look thin and healthy is just wrong. But that is ofcourse my opinion. [/ QUOTE ] I take all of what you say on board, but the above is the only sticking point for me. Personally, I don't think limiting characters to being slim and healthy is wrong in the context of this game. People associate super-heroes with being the epitamy of human athleticism - I hesitate at the use of the word "perfection" because of the inevitable implications the use of that word would have. Even the excessively thin characters we can make now, still have well defined musculature and are a world away from the rib cage prominent gaunt features that can be seen on pictures of those that are unhealthily thin or anorexic.

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Originally Posted by TheMESS Not sure if that was a quick reply or not Steel but if it was in reply to my message i never suggested there should be any form of slider added i was simply pointing out that a "fat character can be achieved by using costume pieces Tho now you mention it a greater range to the sliders would be nice

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Originally Posted by Intussusceptor I'd really like the option of having plump characters. Muscular females would be nice too. I don't buy the "they can't be fat because they run all day", how about a fat truck driver that let his thugs do his dirty job (a possible idea for a Thugs MM)? I don't care if some hyper-sensitive person think it's disgusting/ugly/immoral/offensive/unhealthy/whatever, how do they do when they see overweight people in real life? I can see one, and only one, valid argument against new body options - technical difficulties. I've worked with 3d animation, so I'm aware of the tremendous amount of possible complications with all motions/emotes and costume pieces.

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Originally Posted by Thunderforce [ QUOTE ] Additionally given the current obsession with health and obesity, even if it was something the majority of players wanted, would NC necessarily think it a good idea to promote and / or glamourise it by including it as an addition to a computer game? [/ QUOTE ] Last I checked, redside characters make a regular practice of robbing banks, assassinations, revenge killings, gang turf wars... I really don't think eating a lot of pies would be a particularly contentious addition to that list. I also think the game - although clearly rooted in the Western superhero aesthetic - has strived to go beyond it in places; I'd be delighted if (as a bare minimum amount of work) the body size sliders could be pushed as far as can be done without making the existing costume pieces look ridiculous.

Don't be hatin' zombies, they're people too

the thread was way dead. there was no need to reply to this thread unless you are trying to get yourself in trouble. and, as blue rabbit pointed out, you did not read the stickies very well. a new thread should have been started with a link to this thread.