Outrage at SC change!


Archy

 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Quite frankly I'm apalled at some actions.

I started it with a throwaway comment over arena. Xan picked up on it because we'd been having a slight RP/PvP thread.

Now we've people demanding things, Insulting Stasis and other stuff.

Honestly, some of you make me sick.

[/ QUOTE ]

Save it for the /AC mate, we've had none of this here...

[/ QUOTE ]Indeed.

[/ QUOTE ]

I beg your pardon, but he's not broken any rules. He's mentioned no names, or given specific enough details to single anyone out.

People bring their ingame problems to the forums daily - if you're going to make an exception of one, make an exception of them all. Or better yet, inform one of the mods about it. But please don't single one person out and tell them they're not allowed to rant.


 

Posted

lol well what i said on my previous thread still stands i do genuinely think they should bring more into pocket D much more than just ahving arena consoles there... and with regard to the "joke" theres an old saying dont throw bricks into glass houses (which i am by no means saying nastiness is acceptable because it isnt!!! *hug stasis*) anyway nice joke and i agree there wasnt any actual thread or announcement made so i guess i just picked up on what was being said in arena and elsewhere... its a bit like chinese wispers... it gets moved around so much that it looes all of its original meaning..


 

Posted

I was on TS at the time and people were laughing there heads off!
Then I had to eat and do homework, but yeah.

Great joke guys.



Claiming the Isles (The Nemesis Strike Force), Arc 448371 - Rogueish action from the Prussian Prince of Automatons himself!

 

Posted

Damn my lack of TS and my broken mic, you got me good, ill admit i was a bit sceptical at first and pretty much of it all, then i posted on the forums, then went to SC to check it out, and got AS'ed by a stalker, then i realised how stupid id been. Theres a lesson in this folks, always try befor you buy.
Great joke, things like this make you realise how fun the CoH/V community are. Unfortunatley, after i got AS'd i had to leave for tea, so i pretty much knew about this 5-10 mins after i heard it

Hawk


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]

Save it for the /AC mate, we've had none of this here...

[/ QUOTE ]

Nope, you've had no cause for concern over EULA breaks, threats to follow people around, people spewing hate at RP'ers or vicious tells.

We did. From a few words.

Think yourself lucky.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
Honestly, some of you make me sick.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this bit seems aimed at the general populace. Telling people off, whether they were there or not isn't going to be well received.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Honestly, some of you make me sick.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this bit seems aimed at the general populace. Telling everyone off, whether they were there or not isn't going to be well received.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hence the "some". He couldn't, and can't, name everyone that did take part in the vicious commenting - and mentioning it on the Arena channel would just makes things worse.

The people involved know who they are (at least, they do if they have a sense of decency), and so the comment does its job.

Bridger has been notified of this thread, though - and it's up to him and the GMs dealing with petitions, what happens next.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Honestly, some of you make me sick.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this bit seems aimed at the general populace. Telling people off, whether they were there or not isn't going to be well received.

[/ QUOTE ]

Note : Some =/= Everyone.

Some of the comments Stasis and I received were enough to really put us off playing with the majority for some time to come, and this was before it was noted as 'a joke'.

It may have been a bit of silliness, but the level of hate poured out against MOderators/Backgrounds/ The Forums and RP'ers was apalling.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Honestly, some of you make me sick.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this bit seems aimed at the general populace. Telling people off, whether they were there or not isn't going to be well received.

[/ QUOTE ]

Note : Some =/= Everyone.

Some of the comments Stasis and I received were enough to really put us off playing with the majority for some time to come, and this was before it was noted as 'a joke'.

It may have been a bit of silliness, but the level of hate poured out against MOderators/Backgrounds/ The Forums and RP'ers was apalling.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry you got the flak, but its better to petition and not say anything, than start flames on the forums.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Honestly, some of you make me sick.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this bit seems aimed at the general populace. Telling people off, whether they were there or not isn't going to be well received.

[/ QUOTE ]

Note : Some =/= Everyone.

Some of the comments Stasis and I received were enough to really put us off playing with the majority for some time to come, and this was before it was noted as 'a joke'.

It may have been a bit of silliness, but the level of hate poured out against MOderators/Backgrounds/ The Forums and RP'ers was apalling.

[/ QUOTE ]

Doesnt make it right but what did you expect? People are hardly going to go "we love RPers, more RPers in the zones please".
I've killed players in zones and been told "hey we were dancing" so something like this isnt all that far fetched (indeed, they were dancing, all standing around with the boombox and dance emotes going). I can remember at least one person involved saying something like "to everyone who believed it you are all so gullable". Arguably true, but not exactly doing themselves any favours by saying that.


My MA IDs:
Fiend Space: 211464

 

Posted

So, if someone wants to do something in the PvP zone, you'll deliberately head over to break it up; and then when it's not there, you'll consider your night ruined?

Think that's all that needs to be said really. Cya sometime people.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
Doesnt make it right but what did you expect? People are hardly going to go "we love RPers, more RPers in the zones please".

[/ QUOTE ]

In the defence of many people, and my own, who followed this: I've never even been aware of the massive rift between PvPers and RPers - the closest I've come to any information on it is hearing Xanthus and Spawnus muck around on TS with their anti-RP remarks, but they're all in jest anyway. I had no idea until today that PvPers hated RPers so much.

By the way, is it the same for the opposite?

Personally, PvP and RP are thoroughly enjoyable for me, I've even mixed the two and boy, that was lots of fun.

The claim that a PvP zone would be taken over by RPers for one night only was so outlandish that none of us thought, for a second, that anyone would believe it. To be told afterwards that it was all the RPers fault, and the joke instigators, for starting it and causing an even greater rift, was jaw-dropping.

No one meant to start a fight. We were ignorant, and we're all sorry - very sorry - but we can hardly be blaimed, surely?


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
So, if someone wants to do something in the PvP zone, you'll deliberately head over to break it up;

[/ QUOTE ]

Duels are treated with variations of distaste, indifference and a few sychopants and otherwise advocates from my experiences.
It'd be part of the idea/concept/rule that the PvP zone "is for free-rolling constant PvP" etc etc etc and if that concept risked being "trampled on" by some force then some people would react of course, albeit others extremely.

[ QUOTE ]
and then when it's not there, you'll consider your night ruined?


[/ QUOTE ]
This part both worries and intrigues me.. where did anyone say that it was ruined? The previous post didnt say anything about how 'when they werent dancing or /em boomboxing, I was sad'.

I know it may sound like I'm dashing for the opposition.. I'm not. Just a tad concerned of a few ideas in all this ..

Chiefette


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]

This part both worries and intrigues me.. where did anyone say that it was ruined? The previous post didnt say anything about how 'when they werent dancing or /em boomboxing, I was sad'.
Chiefette

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for ruining my night, cant even be arsed to play anymore. Yes I know it was a joke.

[/ QUOTE ]

Given that I've been told tonight that RP'ers can just be stuffed into a small corner in one of the hazard zones and there's a group of players waiting to grief any RP'er they can, (One player got hassled for actually daring to have a background) I'd say that, as PvP/RP'ers; there's a cosm there that makes me very uncomfortable to continue playing.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

This part both worries and intrigues me.. where did anyone say that it was ruined? The previous post didnt say anything about how 'when they werent dancing or /em boomboxing, I was sad'.
Chiefette

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for ruining my night, cant even be arsed to play anymore. Yes I know it was a joke.

[/ QUOTE ]

Given that I've been told tonight that RP'ers can just be stuffed into a small corner in one of the hazard zones and there's a group of players waiting to grief any RP'er they can, (One player got hassled for actually daring to have a background) I'd say that, as PvP/RP'ers; there's a cosm there that makes me very uncomfortable to continue playing.

[/ QUOTE ]

But those quotes are from two entirely seperate posts, that as far as I can tell are totally unreleated.

Edit: Nevermind, misunderstood.

Edit2: But either way, just ignore idiots who give you grief. They're not worth your time.

Edit3: But I guess that's easy to say, not as easy to do.


 

Posted

I hope you catch several of those hatespewers from the chat logs and they receive what they deserve from the mods. I have never been aware of any particular rifts between RPers and PVPers, at least any PVPers that I appreciate.

I can't believe anyone could ever believe this for a second.. It was funny joke but I'm sorry to hear RP community got flamed for no reason of their own.. I hope you can get over it and stay in game.. Don't let 'them' win.

..This has given me doubts about Union tbh..


 

Posted

Yep, funny joke, and i knew all about it from the time it started, but there already alot of beefing between pvpr's and RP's and imo, there was no need for this, it annoyed people, and people got petitioned.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
..This has given me doubts about Union tbh..

[/ QUOTE ]
Hey, some of us Unionites haven't logged in all evening; the first I'd heard of this was when the thread subject caught my eye.

It's generally understood PvPers are a minority on any server; why put the entire population in the stocks because a fraction of a minority's acting like idiots?


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]


..This has given me doubts about Union tbh..

[/ QUOTE ]

Strangely enough, Defiant also received it and were protesting heavily; but not as nastily I hear.

To those asking why I brought this up in the first place, I felt that the original joke had snowballed out of control and left some very ugly marks behind it. Perhaps I was a little out of order, but some of the provocation received makes me very hurt and angry; for what was; to all intents and purposes, a very different fish to what we started with.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
So, if someone wants to do something in the PvP zone, you'll deliberately head over to break it up; and then when it's not there, you'll consider your night ruined?

Think that's all that needs to be said really. Cya sometime people.

[/ QUOTE ]


Nope, many of us who pvp are fed up with people who mince around the zones doing anything but pvp. IMO the best way to deal with people who abuse the zones in this way is a swift kick up the rear end. As for my night being ruined, that refers to the disappointment of supposedly not getting to play along with some of the vile comments directed at PVPers. Those feelings dont just evaporate instantly, and become exacerbated when some of those responsible want to rub it in over arena chat then wonder why people get upset at them.


[ QUOTE ]

In the defence of many people, and my own, who followed this: I've never even been aware of the massive rift between PvPers and RPers


[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]

I had no idea until today that PvPers hated RPers so much.


[/ QUOTE ]

I dont really care what RPers get up to for fun, as long as they arent forcing it on me then more power to them. There isnt any RPer hate coming from me.

[ QUOTE ]

The claim that a PvP zone would be taken over by RPers for one night only was so outlandish that none of us thought, for a second, that anyone would believe it. To be told afterwards that it was all the RPers fault, and the joke instigators, for starting it and causing an even greater rift, was jaw-dropping.


[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe not, I've seen so many eejits monopolise the zone for there own enjoyment (like the boombox morons in my last post) that nothing would surprise me now. When claims that "the pvp flags are getting turned off at 7" got threw up, it certaily started to smell fishy in a big way.


My MA IDs:
Fiend Space: 211464

 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


..This has given me doubts about Union tbh..

[/ QUOTE ]

Strangely enough, Defiant also received it and were protesting heavily; but not as nastily I hear.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, before anyone carries my words any further I meant that there seems to be a higher percentage of those jackasses who flame over tells and channels than on defiant. I'd fathom most of them don't even post here at the forums. I did not direct this statement specifically at RPers or those PVPers that I know personally.

edit:
Since I don't PvP on union I'm not touching the subject of what the pvp zones are there like. I have to admit that I don't like non-PvP things in a PvP zone either, and will not tolerate getting told off from PvPing in a PvP zone either.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
As for my night being ruined, that refers to the disappointment of supposedly not getting to play along with some of the vile comments directed at PVPers.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have the entire chat-log, and no vile comments were directed at PvPers whatsoever. All were directed at RPers.


 

Posted

What? Why would PvPers say nasty things towards RPers? That's just silly. I personally have nothing against RPers, and till tonight, havn't heard anything about PvPers disliking them.


 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
What? Why would PvPers say nasty things towards RPers? That's just silly. I personally have nothing against RPers, and till tonight, havn't heard anything about PvPers disliking them.

[/ QUOTE ]

I've heard stuff about it before. Anyone remember the Galaxy Girl Nuke... that was PvPers.

Edit: Although I can't say whether that was because they didn't like RPer's. Was definatly aimed at them though.


 

Posted

It is, very silly. As I've said, I'm neither a fully-fledged PvPer or a hardcore RPer - I enjoy both, and to find out that there are a small group of one or the other who hate the other group is mind-boggling.

I can't see why the two communities can't get along - they may be wildly different activities, but the end result is the same.

People die.

No, wait...er...

Fun.

That's the one.