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I'd say MA, but I'm biased. Secondary effects like MA's disorients seem to play less of a role in PVP so perhaps Katana might be more suited if it has a higher damage output.
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MA by far.
Spines 
Spines is pretty much the best PvP set for scrappers it has a pbaoe to annoy stalkers and interrupt AS, ranged attacks and immobilises. Personally, I would say this is followed by Broadsword as the second best for it's high burst damage
However, out of the two you mention, MA is the better one. Katana will work in PvP as it has one of the highest DPS counts of the scrapper sets due to it's very quick recharge meaning the biggest attacks are available regularly and Divine Avalanche gives a very noticeable defence buff in PvP. However, it has quite low burst damage meaning it's quite hard to put away high HP targets like brutes and other scrappers or tanks.
I have no real experience of Dark Melee or claws but the changes to claws in I7 and the fact it also has range may make it a workable PvP set. DM also has it's fears which are one of the least resisted mez types in the game and can cause problems but I seem to remember a lot of it's attacks have some horrid rooting.
Of course, it all depends on what you're pairing it up with. for SR, i'd say go with MA, katana or spines. If you're going Broadsword or Dark Melee, you will probably need regen to get the most out of them due to the end cost of both sets.
I disagree with kin, BS/SR is truely awesome and mine has 0 downtime even running FA. Spines is fine and is versatile, the range is great but doesnt have great burst damage and the secondary immob effect of impale is all but useless in post lvl 30 pvp. DM is an oddball set, the build up can be awesome or weak depending on whats around you but touch of fear is godly, the rooting is no worse than other sets, its just that shadow maul feels like an eternity as opposed to 3.1 seconds probably because it feels that you are missing 6 times not just once.
Secondary is important in choosing, if you are going SR (which rocks) I would say take Kat from your choices as divine avalance augments SRs defence considerably for Melee. MAs stuns and disorients rock though.
There are no bad scrapper sets, just depends on what you want from them.
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Secondary is important in choosing, if you are going SR (which rocks) I would say take Kat from your choices as divine avalance augments SRs defence considerably for Melee.
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Secondary is important in choosing, if you are going SR (which rocks) I would say take Kat from your choices as divine avalance augments SRs defence considerably for Melee.
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clearly but he asked which he should pick from MA or Kat
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Well im going to have Regen as secondary but if you think Spines is better than MA or Katana then i will probaly go with that. Also spines fits better with my character.
MArtial Arts, but makre to take cobra strike so you can stun masterminds/corrupters/dominators.
go for spines or broadsword.
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Gah cobra strikes a waste of time, it hardly stuns, even slotted, axe kicks better for that.
If u are going regen, spines and ma are my choice, but if you plan to go SR (which you should really consider if you plan the scrapper for PvP) i'd say broadsword, katana and ma, in that order
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If u are going regen, spines and ma are my choice, but if you plan to go SR (which you should really consider if you plan the scrapper for PvP) i'd say broadsword, katana and ma, in that order
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Whats wrong with spines/sr? i thought about rolling one myself, got a bs/regen already.
There's nothing wrong at all. I got one myself, but imo the SR buffs ain't that great without some add-ons, like stacking parry or divine avalanche to sum up, which makes you virtuably untouchable. I'm not saying a spines/sr isn't nice, but all in all I think it does better with regen
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There's nothing wrong at all. I got one myself, but imo the SR buffs ain't that great without some add-ons, like stacking parry or divine avalanche to sum up, which makes you virtuably untouchable. I'm not saying a spines/sr isn't nice, but all in all I think it does better with regen
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MA is much better than katana.
My ranking would be
Spines > MA > BS > DM > Claws > Katana
MA eats blasters with little problem. Spines has a much harder time against them.
Spines is the only set that can fight trollers with any hope of a win. Range should not be underestimated.
BS hits very hard with headsplitter and a critt will almost garanti a kill. Its doesnt have the utility of MA which makes is worse. In terms of damage its only a bit higher than MA, and you get slower attacks. This isnt due to animation times alone, but the fact that crane kick does its damage at the start of the animation unlike any BS attack. You can chain very fast with MA.
And about SR as a secondary. Its the best IMO for PvP. You arent as tough, but that isnt a problem IMO. You dont really need all the proctection you get from regen. SR gives you a dmg boost due to added recharge from quickness. This should not be forgotten.
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Whats wrong with spines/sr? i thought about rolling one myself, got a bs/regen already.
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Nothing at all wrong with spines/sr
Ive got Crippling Axe Kick slotted with immob and my Eagles Claw slotted with disorient not to mention I'll be grabbing Cobra Strike soon to throw it all in at RV
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Ive got Crippling Axe Kick slotted with immob and my Eagles Claw slotted with disorient not to mention I'll be grabbing Cobra Strike soon to throw it all in at RV
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A bad slotting if you ask me. You dont gain enough time by slotting them and you need the damage more. 2acc, 3 dmg, 1 recharge for both Crip Axe and eagle is prolly the best slotting. Considder 1acc, 3 dmg, 2 recharge if you have focussed accuracy.
So many things grant protection to stun/immobs. The fact you can do it is enough. You dont really need the duration.
If you stun you switch off travelpowers, and you gain enough time for the kill.
If you immob they have to deal with, and it gives you enough time for a kill.
If they have protection against stun/immobs added duration wont help, and you only do less damage than you could have done.
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I would recommend going for MA/SR should a quick/fast unslowable Ninja 
Stuns are great for squisy hunting 
plus you get a Immob and -Fly
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I would recommend going for MA/SR should a quick/fast unslowable Ninja
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How much use is the slow protection though? I know SR's have it but i've never noticed them being any tougher to slow than anyone else when i'm on my ice/ice corruptor?
Anyway, I think the point of this thread is that it's pretty hard to gimp a scrapper in PvP, regardless of primary/secondary
IMO best scrapper set for team PvP where you're going to be supported by an empath is Spines/Invul. Spines provides range, which means you can assist with spiking using Impale and Throw Spines. Invul provides repel resistance (screw you, force bubble), and also has Dull Pain which is probably the most important thing that a regen has for team PvP. Given the choice it's what I'd pick, anyway.
im no expert but wouldnt dm be the best partner of sr as the accuracy debuff means practically no1 will be able to hit u
im doing ok so far with my dm/rgn but i do envy alot of spines/rgns out there as there aoe helps alot with stalkers
with rgn as your secondary i would put this as the pecking order
1.spines
2.dm
3.broad sword
4.katana(i would maybe put this higher but ive had the least experience with it)
5.ma
6.claws
I want to make a new scrapper for PvP, only going to get him to 30-32 and i was wondering which power is better in PvP, MA or Katana? Plz help, Thanks.