Is something wrong with PvP in BB?
And the moral of this story is..?
I mean what is the subject about? Something wrong with BB pvp?
I'm a little puzzled as well. If theres some issues in the story you want people to comment on can you repost them please, maybe in a list or something.
Also, what level were you at the time?
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My character is Level 30, but get exempted to 25 in BB. And the issues is that I do not think I should have able to hold out angst 3 heroes, for as long as I did and then even being able to get away before I died. It felt like I was taking much less damage that I oath to have takes, after all I have no defensive powers at all.
3 on 1 fights are supposed to be rather one sighted right?
I se 4 possible explanations.
a) Grav/Energy is overpowered around lvl 25.
b) Dominators in general are overpowered around lvl 25.
c) There is some bug that make the resist de-buff from the zone work as a buff instead.
d) The Exempting is not working properly.
And since I do not generally engage in PvP, I cannot really assess witch one it is, nor if there might be other posibilitys.
I have a lvl 27ish Mind/Energy Dom. Tanks and defenders dont really have massive damage so its not unusual to hold out until the blasters turn up. I've scrapped 2 tanks at once with Dom running and survived. You also have to consider that the other players may not have been very high level, or poorly slotted acc & damage. They may have been lvl 15 fighting your lvl 30, a distinct advantage to you
I've noticed grav controllers I've fought have a speed debuff on some attacks (been thinking a grav dom may be a good pvp choice). Btw. I sometimes have trouble knowing if my holds, confuses etc have hit/stuck. I think the effects get turned off by default or something, so you may even have held the defenders and blasters but not really have known about it.
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Fiend Space: 211464
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I se 4 possible explanations.
a) Grav/Energy is overpowered around lvl 25.
b) Dominators in general are overpowered around lvl 25.
c) There is some bug that make the resist de-buff from the zone work as a buff instead.
d) The Exempting is not working properly.
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e) The heroes you were fighting weren't slotted with SOs/were at the lower end of the level cap for the zone.
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People PvP in BB?! o.O
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People PvP in BB?! o.O
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Yeah
I beat a lvl 33 Gravity/Energy Dominator in BB yesterday with my lvl 19 ill/ff controller Some days fights just don't go the way you'd expect...
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Well it good that it is not some bug, or the base for a future nerf...
Just hope I did not ambushed newbie... (and that if I did that they enjoyed the fight and final defeat of me)
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Well it good that it is not some bug, or the base for a future nerf...
Just hope I did not ambushed newbie... (and that if I did that they enjoyed the fight and final defeat of me)
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the risk of PvP zones... just a pity not everyone understands it. ("ZOMG! u <insert insulting adjective here> <insert insulting noun here> i'm only here for mishes/badges/shivan/xp (cross out what isnt relative)" springs to mind )
Anyway, the fact that strikes me most surprising is that there was actually PvP goin on in BB . But seriously, being 30, I reckon you got the slots advantage. If they were <22, they would have DOs at max, and when they are near the lvl 15 marker, its also possible they dont even have DOs. This gives you a great advantage. Also since I7, doms build up domination faster in PvP, givin some extra strength.
To add to that, a defender and tank arent damage powerhouses, they can mitigate the damage they take, but especially at lower lvls got some trouble dishing it. Once blasters arrive its a whole new game, but in BB I notice the amount of squishies with acrobatics is low, and being a dom you could just hold the blasters and proceed with smackdown.
So concluding, I think you just fought underpowered enemies rather than being overpowered yourself
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Total Cat @Stagefright
I like BB, wish it was used more wish there was less bots too.
They might have been builds designed for higher end play , I know some high lvl builds can really suck if they get forced down to a lower level (ha teach you all to try to get the fitness pool and a travle power by lvl 14 :P ).
DG>
aye, I like BB as well, most fights there can get quite interesting as most ppl dont have "teh ub4h" powers yet
wish it would be used more for pvp, rather than gettin cheap xp
"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"
Total Cat @Stagefright
Now that Shivans scale with level, it might become a bit busier - since everyone loves a renewable source of pet powers!
must say I did enjoy the MM that tried to attack my scrapper there.. he had 4 parts already collected.. saved me some trips
"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"
Total Cat @Stagefright
I often prefer PvPing in Bloody Bay. When it's active it's not overpopulated with l33t build-ubered-for-pvp characters (*coughsirenscough*), so it's beginner/casual friendly, and it's great for 1v1 fights with heroes and villains mingling as spectators.
@Nefarious:
Acrobatics doesn't help against troller/dom holds. They can however, protect against one "lesser" hold, such as corruptors' or blasters' Freeze Ray.
@OP
Bloody Bay is excellent for PvP, no PvP-builded powerhouses running around and telling everyone that they suck, and that PvP-builds don't exist because it's just "skill."
The problem is that NPCs take lots of kills, you can never know when you are running backwards if there's a Tank Swiper or a Shivan Destroyer, heck, a Madness Mage behind your back.
I have done this once on a Tanker (being a Dom):
2. Lure the tank somewhere far away from the hero base, some tend to run back even if the fight had been on Water Street.
3. Do that while being at half health, they love injured squishies.
4. Build Domination and say "I sux " and let the Tanker get overconfident.
5. Hit Domination and proceed to Dominate the Tank by burning his breakfrees and spamming attacks on him (eat blues, he ate purples! Fair enough!)
6. Bing! +1 Rep!
Held Tankers are just like lobsters with no shell, proceed to poke them with a stick until they say "nooo!"
Oh yeah, forgot
1. They use KO blow on you and murder you with their fists. Bing! +1 Rep for them.
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I se 4 possible explanations.
a) Grav/Energy is overpowered around lvl 25.
b) Dominators in general are overpowered around lvl 25.
c) There is some bug that make the resist de-buff from the zone work as a buff instead.
d) The Exempting is not working properly.
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e) The heroes you were fighting weren't slotted with SOs/were at the lower end of the level cap for the zone.
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@Nefarious:
Acrobatics doesn't help against troller/dom holds. They can however, protect against one "lesser" hold, such as corruptors' or blasters' Freeze Ray.
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hence me saying this:
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and being a dom you could just hold the blasters and proceed with smackdown.
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However, acro actually helps a wee bit against troller holds. Its easily overcome, but it can give em just that 1 sec advantage.
"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"
Total Cat @Stagefright
My Corrupter took down a Controller in Bloody Bay lastnight..
The guy was standing there spamming kenetic attacks on something, so I drop in behind him, land rad infection, followed by envererating field and proceed to attack. He attempts to run but doesn't get far and finally drops.
I then get abuse along the lines of ZOMG I was AFK you f**k.
Two questions,
1. why stand AFK in a PvP zone and expect to be safe?
2. why claim to be AFK if he was there spamming kenteic attacks?
Today I took a trip to BB, with my Grav/Energy Dominator to work off some debt and work on my "Man in black" badge at the same time. The heroes had been busy and I have -15% damage and my resistance was rebuffed as well, so it was going a bit slow.
After a close call with a Shiva boss, I desisted to go get some more debt and try my hand at PvP.
So, I turn on Invis and fly over near the heroes base and wait for one of them. The first one I spot is a Tank. He was apparently on his way out to get the Shiva strike. So I hit power boost turn off invis and fire off my hold. A fun fight, but it was almost impossible to make even a dent in his health. Only with domination do I make any progress but he manages to super jump away (but unfortunately in to a Freak Tank) when he had about half his health back. The Freak get the kill.
Well stands out there. Doms do not do a lot of damage to begin with and, tanks have a lot of resistance and health.
Next is a Defender. Again the same tactic. Powerboost, invis off hold. I still do not do a lot of damage, and the fight ends when he gets to close to some shivers on the shore. Shivas get the kill.
Then came the weird part... The two apparently joined up, as they was standing in the water about where I had ambushed them both. Now I was looking for some debt, so I attacked again. Still about the same result, I did not make much progress and now they was either healing one another or had stocked up on greens.
During this fight a blaster showed up and joined in, but even with the 3 of them my health was not dropping that slow, and despite getting dizzied a few times I managed to activate fly and get air born for popping some greens and getting some endurance back.
After a 2nd round, (and being out of greens), I turned on invite when I had to with draw, and found a empty roof to rest on. And when I got back they was gone.
So I flew a bit about and spots the defender. Turn off invis and attack. Well not only do the 2 other arrive shortly, but a 2nd blaster joins in, and finally they get me before I get a chance to retreat.