I my raid taunting was done by a full tanker team on one 'side' of Hami near enough to him to be in the AoE of the Transfusions but out of the way from the Holding group.
All they needed to do was survive till they landed and the healing blanket started, then they were pretty much safe as anyone else in there.
Phil even complained cos he never planted once....
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Okay, I'm *almost* convinced enough to wear a Tech Helmet rather than have my Duster Hat on, but would it have an actual (even if only small) effect on the lag to have the Suit costume on?
If that's a yes, then I'll swallow my pride and somehow put Max into *shudder*...spandex... 
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The less detail, the better, a Suit is fine just as some kind of tights as long as they're not armoured with chains, any kind of possible freakin detail, shoulder pads as detailed as they came, fully WHITE colored and with the most graphical intensive aura on...
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Don't worry, it's just the suit, not a fan of auras at all, and I'll use the Tech-Helm for the raid, and switch over to my Hat for the end photo when we finally defeat it. 
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I my raid taunting was done by a full tanker team on one 'side' of Hami near enough to him to be in the AoE of the Transfusions but out of the way from the Holding group.
All they needed to do was survive till they landed and the healing blanket started, then they were pretty much safe as anyone else in there.
Phil even complained cos he never planted once....
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Aye, the only problem we had was getting to Hami. You'd think that hitting 'F' for follow on the person running group fly would get you there no problem but we had a hell of a time just making it to cowards hill to ready for deployment.
Once we dropped, was never in danger of dying once.
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also for the taunt team, would regen scrappers with a taunt power be useful, i know they dont have as much HP but being regen means they are best for surviving hami attacks, and all scrapper sets do have a single target taunt in them.
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From my experience as a healer to the hami taunter regen scrappers are ten times better than a tank and yes ive been in the hami tank team a few times.
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Can a regen scrapper get 3000+ HP when entering the bubble? No. Tanks are better. All you need for a hami-tank is a lot of HP nowadays, and tanks have way more than a scrapper. Regenners used to be used when IH was a toggle, since it was possible to perma dull pain and then tank hamidon with no support whatsoever. Since IH and DP can no longer do that, real tankers are way better.
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From my experience as a hami tank healer I agree fully with Shannon: regens scrappers are better than tankers thanks to the regen. Yes, having loads of HP helps, but only so much. However, I wasn't on Jiaozy's raid and I don't know how taunting was done on his version so my experiences are solely from the 'typical' raids.
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The regen means nothing when you have 3 empaths spamming Heal Other on you. The reason that regen was used pre-i5 was because they could tank hamidon with no support. Now, they need support to be able to do it so having more HP is more important than having more regeneration. Tankers get more HP, and so are better.
Look at the track record in i6 on Defiant. We used to use Mr ?, a claws?/regen scrapper to tank. Moving him into the bubble used to take at least 3 attempts, even with 10+ PA droppers grabbing the aggro. Don't forget, this is i5/6, so PA actually worked. He used to die a few times during the raid as well, causing problems for the clearing/holding groups.
Now lets look at the track record for when we've used Novocaine, an Invulnerability/EM Tank. Number of deaths moving him into the bubble? 0. Number of deaths during a raid? 0. Not only that, but we back him up with two Empaths usually, rather than the 5+ that Mr ? used to have.
I'm not saying that Mr ? and his team are bad players, as player skill isn't a factor in this. All the whole tank team has to do is green ring one power and keep firing it. Occasionally the Empaths have to group up for RA so they don't run out of end, but really that doesn't take any skill at all. Those are the facts. Tanks are better than Scrappers at tanking Hamidon at the current time. In the past Scrappers may have been better, but that is not the case now.
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It wasnt so much the regeneration but reconstruction helped and i dont know about defiant hami raids but on union you would have 6 empaths and only 3 then were not afk merely spamming heals at times when its not needed. You soon find out about whose afk when you have to move left and they stayed where they were. Also when it come to buffing the taunter they werent bothering when they should of. I soon knew who id wouldnt want supporting me i can tell ya.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
well, i have no idea what you guys are talking about, i just felt like posting, but i think i qualify for the blaster-that-can-hold-kinda team, got vanguard and im ice/ice, plus youd be useless without be =P
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well, i have no idea what you guys are talking about, i just felt like posting, but i think i qualify for the blaster-that-can-hold-kinda team, got vanguard and im ice/ice, plus youd be useless without be =P
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I sort of follow them. I'm just going with "follow orders and stick to them" once I'm there, and probably jibber-jabbing over Teamspeak. 
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also for the taunt team, would regen scrappers with a taunt power be useful, i know they dont have as much HP but being regen means they are best for surviving hami attacks, and all scrapper sets do have a single target taunt in them.
just a suggestion
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From my experience as a healer to the hami taunter regen scrappers are ten times better than a tank and yes ive been in the hami tank team a few times.
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Can a regen scrapper get 3000+ HP when entering the bubble? No. Tanks are better. All you need for a hami-tank is a lot of HP nowadays, and tanks have way more than a scrapper. Regenners used to be used when IH was a toggle, since it was possible to perma dull pain and then tank hamidon with no support whatsoever. Since IH and DP can no longer do that, real tankers are way better.
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From my experience as a hami tank healer I agree fully with Shannon: regens scrappers are better than tankers thanks to the regen. Yes, having loads of HP helps, but only so much. However, I wasn't on Jiaozy's raid and I don't know how taunting was done on his version so my experiences are solely from the 'typical' raids.
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The regen means nothing when you have 3 empaths spamming Heal Other on you. The reason that regen was used pre-i5 was because they could tank hamidon with no support. Now, they need support to be able to do it so having more HP is more important than having more regeneration. Tankers get more HP, and so are better.
Look at the track record in i6 on Defiant. We used to use Mr ?, a claws?/regen scrapper to tank. Moving him into the bubble used to take at least 3 attempts, even with 10+ PA droppers grabbing the aggro. Don't forget, this is i5/6, so PA actually worked. He used to die a few times during the raid as well, causing problems for the clearing/holding groups.
Now lets look at the track record for when we've used Novocaine, an Invulnerability/EM Tank. Number of deaths moving him into the bubble? 0. Number of deaths during a raid? 0. Not only that, but we back him up with two Empaths usually, rather than the 5+ that Mr ? used to have.
I'm not saying that Mr ? and his team are bad players, as player skill isn't a factor in this. All the whole tank team has to do is green ring one power and keep firing it. Occasionally the Empaths have to group up for RA so they don't run out of end, but really that doesn't take any skill at all. Those are the facts. Tanks are better than Scrappers at tanking Hamidon at the current time. In the past Scrappers may have been better, but that is not the case now.
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It wasnt so much the regeneration but reconstruction helped and i dont know about defiant hami raids but on union you would have 6 empaths and only 3 then were not afk merely spamming heals at times when its not needed. You soon find out about whose afk when you have to move left and they stayed where they were. Also when it come to buffing the taunter they werent bothering when they should of. I soon knew who id wouldnt want supporting me i can tell ya.
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All this asside, it still takes a dedicated respec for a scrapper to tank hami, where a bog standard tank can do a better job. Vel, you last healed hami tanks pre ED i think, same time as me. When instant healing was a toggle etc.
Oh, and the first time hami went down, we had 2 healers on the hami tank, me and velinia, no requirement for a 3rd - let alone a 6th. Man whats with that?
cant wait to get to 50 so i can take part in a raid, could you wait another 6 months
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well, i have no idea what you guys are talking about, i just felt like posting, but i think i qualify for the blaster-that-can-hold-kinda team, got vanguard and im ice/ice, plus youd be useless without be =P
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I'll vouch for oozy, did great on J's raid last time.
@Double
Double Flame 50 fire/devices
Double Shade 50 tri-form warshade
Double Light 50 dwarf-human peacebringer
Double Control 50 earth/rad
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The PA drop is seemingly useless now, check the last attempted raid on defiant, they no longer agro the mitos.
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As far as I know I have been on every PA drop team, on Union, doing a Hami raid since last August/September.
I've gone & done a solo drop on Hami and my PA are acting the same under I7 as they have done during every Hami raid I have been on.
I can still fly high enough above Hami to be out of range of his attacks but see my PA land and take aggro from the whole of Hami.
As such I see no reason to change the PA tactics.
(There is, as before, a particular area that is hard to drop on, as the PA tend to want to land on an out cropping of rock).
I may not be available for the next Hami raid but if those in the PA drop team maintain a hight of IIRC approximately 152 they should have no problem.
Paragon Girl
well the prob is you cant drag em along anymore now, however we didnt do that last raid either 
"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"
Total Cat @Stagefright
UPDATE:
Taunting team = Filled with Tanker or Regenners (best for the task are regenners, then Stone tanks then Fire, better stick to just these 3 IMO)
Kinetics = for each empath 3 kins, rounded up(4/5 kins = 2 empaths)
Rad team = priority to Rad defenders since their buffs and AM are more effective than 'trollers, fill the free spots with trollers but not more than 8, the trollers are too needed in the holding team and 8 rads are more than enough
Babel Horror - L-50 Illusion/Empathy Controller
Dactylic Antithesis - L-50 Human Warshade
Not long to go now. Where should empaths with epic holds be going? (dominate and telekenisis)
Or should I just turn up in green with a purple stripe and go to the first team that grabs me?
I'd say the holding team, the healing blanket will be covered by kinetics.
"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"
Total Cat @Stagefright
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Indeed.. I'll start going thru the list I have on my thread and start sorting out team structures...
any others that wish to join holding team, pls get in touch ASAP, so I can arrange.
If anyone else has any more advice on Hold Slotting pls post as well, so I can semi-finalise the Holding Team Setup.
less than 12 hours to go now
@Double
Double Flame 50 fire/devices
Double Shade 50 tri-form warshade
Double Light 50 dwarf-human peacebringer
Double Control 50 earth/rad
Quick question. It may be stupid but...
What about us damage dealers do we just turn up then get assigned teams on the night?
It will be my first raid so I'm allowed to ask stupid questions 
Union
Ebola EngEng Lvl 50 Blst
Maelstrome DrkDrk Lvl 50 Scrp
SRobo-tron RoboTraps Lvl 47 MM
Flaming Radium FireRad 35 Controller
What Ebola said.
Also, the costume guide page seems to be down atm.
Any chance a refresher of it can be posted for those of us who realised we'd be able to join in only yesterday?
Thanks in advance.
p.s. ignore my sig - Shadowe is 49, rapidly closing on 50.
p.p.s. See next page - thanks HH. I finally got it to load after I had somehow managed to double post this, and only one of them edited properly. Gaagh. Bloody office internet. Oh, and Tankers are Black. I can't remember the other one, either...
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The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise.
; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*
What Ebola said.
p.s. ignore my sig - Shadowe is 49, rapidly closing on 50.
The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise.
; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*
Key points - No capes, no aura's, costumes with a lower polygon count are better (so as little detail as possible, and preferably a smooth helmet in the idea situation)
No capes and auras is the most important bit.
Colour should show your AT - Red for Blasters, Blue for defenders, Purple for controllers (can't remember tanks and scrappers ), kheldians should take the colour for the AT they will be playing most like.
Special cases, empaths wear green, illusion controllers wear grey. If you can heal (possibly just /emp controllers, some guides have anyone with an aura heal wearing it) you should have green stripes, if you can hold (any power that takes an orange hold enhancement) then you should have a purple stripe.
Tanks are black
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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And Scrappers are usually yellow.
Just a quick note to let you all know i will be available from 6.15pm tonight, work commitments have kept me away this week, i will be there tho, and still doing the job i committed myself too
Babel Horror - L-50 Illusion/Empathy Controller
Dactylic Antithesis - L-50 Human Warshade
Uhm.. What colour for PeaceBringers?
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Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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also for the taunt team, would regen scrappers with a taunt power be useful, i know they dont have as much HP but being regen means they are best for surviving hami attacks, and all scrapper sets do have a single target taunt in them.
just a suggestion
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From my experience as a healer to the hami taunter regen scrappers are ten times better than a tank and yes ive been in the hami tank team a few times.
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Can a regen scrapper get 3000+ HP when entering the bubble? No. Tanks are better. All you need for a hami-tank is a lot of HP nowadays, and tanks have way more than a scrapper. Regenners used to be used when IH was a toggle, since it was possible to perma dull pain and then tank hamidon with no support whatsoever. Since IH and DP can no longer do that, real tankers are way better.
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From my experience as a hami tank healer I agree fully with Shannon: regens scrappers are better than tankers thanks to the regen. Yes, having loads of HP helps, but only so much. However, I wasn't on Jiaozy's raid and I don't know how taunting was done on his version so my experiences are solely from the 'typical' raids.
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The regen means nothing when you have 3 empaths spamming Heal Other on you. The reason that regen was used pre-i5 was because they could tank hamidon with no support. Now, they need support to be able to do it so having more HP is more important than having more regeneration. Tankers get more HP, and so are better.
Look at the track record in i6 on Defiant. We used to use Mr ?, a claws?/regen scrapper to tank. Moving him into the bubble used to take at least 3 attempts, even with 10+ PA droppers grabbing the aggro. Don't forget, this is i5/6, so PA actually worked. He used to die a few times during the raid as well, causing problems for the clearing/holding groups.
Now lets look at the track record for when we've used Novocaine, an Invulnerability/EM Tank. Number of deaths moving him into the bubble? 0. Number of deaths during a raid? 0. Not only that, but we back him up with two Empaths usually, rather than the 5+ that Mr ? used to have.
I'm not saying that Mr ? and his team are bad players, as player skill isn't a factor in this. All the whole tank team has to do is green ring one power and keep firing it. Occasionally the Empaths have to group up for RA so they don't run out of end, but really that doesn't take any skill at all. Those are the facts. Tanks are better than Scrappers at tanking Hamidon at the current time. In the past Scrappers may have been better, but that is not the case now.