24th July Hamidon Raid Guide


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Okay, as I have the *Cryo Freeze Ray*, (and the Crey pistol, but let's forget that) am I eligible for the Blaster-but-I-happen-to-have-Holding team?


 

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aye, bring an 8man team to monkey island north of PI and you have that badge in no time at all


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

 

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Stage, would it be possible to summon the PA's then use the Warburg temp phase power to get them in position?

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AFAIK Hamidon hits trough any kind of Phaseshift power (tried Neb Form, Phase shift from the pool and Q Flight, dunno about temps but I think they're the same).


 

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Stage, would it be possible to summon the PA's then use the Warburg temp phase power to get them in position?

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AFAIK Hamidon hits trough any kind of Phaseshift power (tried Neb Form, Phase shift from the pool and Q Flight, dunno about temps but I think they're the same).

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He doesn't hit through it, but as soon as the phase drops he'll kill you, PA or no PA.


 

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Yeah, but it's a case of seeing if the Phase gives us time to get the PA's in place. It will be tight but if it's manageable, the tank team can get in place with the heal blanket.

The PA's are there purely for deployment If the phase allows the PA's to hold aggro long enough for the taunt team and healing blanket to get in, we're away.


 

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Can't an illusion bubbler with personal force field get PA's in place or is pff not good enough?


 

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well im one of the only few illusion bubblers out there.. and I can say, no way in hell is PFF enough . Hami got silly high accuracy (near auto-hit) and will cut right through PFF. Plus you wont get 8 ill/FF trollers to drop PA in PFF


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

 

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Sounds like a plan. BUT!... one thing concerns me... "Taunting Team" something needs to be done there.


 

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well im one of the only few illusion bubblers out there.. and I can say, no way in hell is PFF enough . Hami got silly high accuracy (near auto-hit) and will cut right through PFF. Plus you wont get 8 ill/FF trollers to drop PA in PFF

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Hamidon damage is untyped. No defence powers that I know of have defence against untyped. Yes his accuracy is good, but thats not the reason for him hitting you. hes just cheating!

H4X!


 

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Hmmmm...if he's a Biological Entity though, won't the Bio-Nukes from Warburg be useful against him or the Mito's?


 

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He doesn't hit through it, but as soon as the phase drops he'll kill you, PA or no PA.

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But that's no good since, even if you manage to run out of the bubble before the Phaseshift wears off, the Mitos will remember you and as soon as you're back in their range they'll pwn you hard


 

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well im one of the only few illusion bubblers out there.. and I can say, no way in hell is PFF enough . Hami got silly high accuracy (near auto-hit) and will cut right through PFF. Plus you wont get 8 ill/FF trollers to drop PA in PFF

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Hamidon damage is untyped. No defence powers that I know of have defence against untyped. Yes his accuracy is good, but thats not the reason for him hitting you. hes just cheating!

H4X!

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well yeah and that, but I was tired when posting


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

 

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Hmmmm...if he's a Biological Entity though, won't the Bio-Nukes from Warburg be useful against him or the Mito's?

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Yeah, and they're also damn useful for crashing everybodies PCs. Warburg nukes do more harm than good at a raid.


 

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Ah well, always good to know these things to prevent it happening


 

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Okay, as I have the *Cryo Freeze Ray*, (and the Crey pistol, but let's forget that) am I eligible for the Blaster-but-I-happen-to-have-Holding team?

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And if by some miracle I make it with my 3 holds that I'll have by then, where will I go?


 

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Okay, I'm *almost* convinced enough to wear a Tech Helmet rather than have my Duster Hat on, but would it have an actual (even if only small) effect on the lag to have the Suit costume on?

If that's a yes, then I'll swallow my pride and somehow put Max into *shudder*...spandex...


 

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Hey, last time we only really planted in a major fashion trying to GET to Hami, due to an astonishing amount of falling out of group fly. Thank heavens for Recall friend, says I.


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Okay, I'm *almost* convinced enough to wear a Tech Helmet rather than have my Duster Hat on, but would it have an actual (even if only small) effect on the lag to have the Suit costume on?

If that's a yes, then I'll swallow my pride and somehow put Max into *shudder*...spandex...

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The less detail, the better, a Suit is fine just as some kind of tights as long as they're not armoured with chains, any kind of possible freakin detail, shoulder pads as detailed as they came, fully WHITE colored and with the most graphical intensive aura on...


 

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also for the taunt team, would regen scrappers with a taunt power be useful, i know they dont have as much HP but being regen means they are best for surviving hami attacks, and all scrapper sets do have a single target taunt in them.
just a suggestion

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From my experience as a healer to the hami taunter regen scrappers are ten times better than a tank and yes ive been in the hami tank team a few times.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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fully WHITE colored and with the most graphical intensive aura on...

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Zomg!! You still remember that


 

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also for the taunt team, would regen scrappers with a taunt power be useful, i know they dont have as much HP but being regen means they are best for surviving hami attacks, and all scrapper sets do have a single target taunt in them.
just a suggestion

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From my experience as a healer to the hami taunter regen scrappers are ten times better than a tank and yes ive been in the hami tank team a few times.

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Actually the only reason Scrappers used to be picked over tanks was the misconception that an AoE taunt would be a bad idea. A Stone tank running rooted + 3 slotted health and a fast cycling earths embrace (prolly 2 or more adren boosts on him) has greated damage absorption. Whats more, it doesnt require a respec, since tanks generally take taunt, but your regen scrappers generally dont.


 

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also for the taunt team, would regen scrappers with a taunt power be useful, i know they dont have as much HP but being regen means they are best for surviving hami attacks, and all scrapper sets do have a single target taunt in them.
just a suggestion

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From my experience as a healer to the hami taunter regen scrappers are ten times better than a tank and yes ive been in the hami tank team a few times.

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Can a regen scrapper get 3000+ HP when entering the bubble? No. Tanks are better. All you need for a hami-tank is a lot of HP nowadays, and tanks have way more than a scrapper. Regenners used to be used when IH was a toggle, since it was possible to perma dull pain and then tank hamidon with no support whatsoever. Since IH and DP can no longer do that, real tankers are way better.


 

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Zomg!! You still remember that

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also for the taunt team, would regen scrappers with a taunt power be useful, i know they dont have as much HP but being regen means they are best for surviving hami attacks, and all scrapper sets do have a single target taunt in them.
just a suggestion

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From my experience as a healer to the hami taunter regen scrappers are ten times better than a tank and yes ive been in the hami tank team a few times.

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Can a regen scrapper get 3000+ HP when entering the bubble? No. Tanks are better. All you need for a hami-tank is a lot of HP nowadays, and tanks have way more than a scrapper. Regenners used to be used when IH was a toggle, since it was possible to perma dull pain and then tank hamidon with no support whatsoever. Since IH and DP can no longer do that, real tankers are way better.

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From my experience as a hami tank healer I agree fully with Shannon: regens scrappers are better than tankers thanks to the regen. Yes, having loads of HP helps, but only so much. However, I wasn't on Jiaozy's raid and I don't know how taunting was done on his version so my experiences are solely from the 'typical' raids.