Interesting points there Chaplain (good to see you back by the way!). I see where you're coming from, but I don't really agree with them only being Tanks.
Although they were mainly melee, I don't think they have to have CoH melee powers - as I've said before my memory is very hazy, but I'm sure the bolt pistols they used counted as melee attacks in the game, but as there's no (current) substitute, I think the AR works fine, though I would stay clear of snipe and range enhancements to keep it fairly short range.
Thinking about it, IMO a AR blaster would work well as a Chaplain so long as he had 4 of:
Leadership (the most important I think)
Tough/Weave (so they are tougher to kill than a Brother)
Stamina (he should fight at least as long as a brother, longer really)
Teleport (as a high rank, he would get access to the cool toys before anyone, plus he should be able to get places quick smart)
First aid (not so much for the heal (though this could be seen as invigorating his comrades with wise words... if you squint 
), but the Clear Mind equivilent, banishing fear etc from the minds of his comrades, as well as resuscitate which I think is fairly in-character for a Chaplain)
Presence (scare the pants off the enemy, though challenging a boss works for me as well)
Attacks should mainly be slotted for accuracy, he should barely miss a shot.
I also think he has to have no fear, so in the CoH world that would be no fear of debt - if everyone's panicking to get out of the door, he should be the last.
In character binds are a must
Oh, and Electron Kid, I'd be interested in having a gander at that document when you're don 
I'm playing my assault marine as a mini tank. I'm taking presence and will be mainly on the front line although I drop back and try to get the aggro off the blasters as well (which doesnt work very well without punchvoke but im getting provoke soon)
FINALLY caught up. I have many many thoughts to share.
1. I love the idea alot and can't wait to roll my dude.
2. To give Libraians an edge in close combat, how about the odd melee orientated one with sonic/en as the build. En giving the feel of power weapons, sonic of the psychic powers?
3. As for chaplains, I personally see them as a mace/invul tank (not nessacarily in terminator armour) as they're meant to be tough as nails anyway. I feel they should be power pool heavy, with leadership and presence being good representations, particuly the fear powers. Like everything else here, it's just a thought.
4. Apothcary colours, like those of any other marine depended on the chapter, but always had white somewhere. As for their powersets, I'd personally like to see AR/en with the medcine pool. I converted mine (in the old days) to have a power fist as well as his redcuter (gene seed sucker) as I thought it would help him fight his way to his men. In that resepct, could he have a robotic tech arm and a few of the en mellee attakcs.
5. Standard bearer... hmmm the only way I can think of doing this is with really showy toggles. More of like a mascot, but has been blessed by the emperor to inspire us. Some sort of tank would be cool for this I feel.
6. Tech marines in CoH... They has servo arms (which were optionl) and usually power axes. Axe tankers again, but slim build. Maybe with a scranker style build?
7. We need more standard marines don't we...
8. I WANT a devastator. I think with a fancy robo arm and a cool looking blaster set, they could be awesome as the Chapters heavy weapon marines. Energy secondary so they stay at the back and buff themselves to shoot. That would be damn cool.
9. Loved the shoulder pads that Tristar posted. I'd back them in coming in!
10. I did have something else but I've forgotten it. I can't wait to get in the fray and lend my support to the brothers. I'm so going to RP with this guy. We should all invade GG one night... that could be hilarious!
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We used to do it with the fruit bowl...they weren't impressed.
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Ah but we'ed be RPing. They'ed have to let us in
hmm mr cuddles is inv/mace with the presence power pool and medicine.
Not a very marine name though
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It could be ironic ......
I think you'd make a good chaplain.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
More thoughts which appeared whilst walking dog:
1. Veterans had white helmets. Terminators were veteran marines. WHat do you reckon?
2. Devastors could have the steampunk robo arm. You have to max out the top half of an athletic fram as you don't get armour but it looked good. I'll post some examples in a bit. Fire/en makes a good multi melter type thing I think. SLot blazing bolt and boost range for recharges and It could be very characterful. COuld have rain fo fire as a sort of special shot.
3. Assault rifles remind me of combi weapons. WOuld that open up any options
And that's about it. Going to try out some toons now and post you some examples.
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I'm so up for this. It would be fantastic.
FOR THE EMPEROR!!
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More thoughts which appeared whilst walking dog:
1. Veterans had white helmets. Terminators were veteran marines. WHat do you reckon?
2. Devastors could have the steampunk robo arm. You have to max out the top half of an athletic fram as you don't get armour but it looked good. I'll post some examples in a bit. Fire/en makes a good multi melter type thing I think. SLot blazing bolt and boost range for recharges and It could be very characterful. COuld have rain fo fire as a sort of special shot.
3. Assault rifles remind me of combi weapons. WOuld that open up any options
And that's about it. Going to try out some toons now and post you some examples.
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tbh I think trying to fit in even more powersets is taking it a bit too far unless they are unique characters, in which case we'd have only 1. If we end up having a mixture of power sets and ATs available to anyone it'll end up just being like another CoH SG and team expect we'd look similar
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I think we should steer clear of using powers and pretending they're weapons, I think there's enough options with the AR really - want to be a flamer? then max out flame thrower
Just for info, and to try and give my previous idea more merit, the saving throw on a Terminator (currently tank) is 2+, that of an Interrigator Chaplain (going on the Dark Angels codex) is +3, so they are squishier in combat, however they have a higher damage output - so I still say a blaster fits the bill, or perhaps a scrapper.
Who says I'm taking this too seriously?! 
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yes. yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. when shall we meet?
I am the Blaster, I have filled the role of Tank, Controller and Defender
Sometimes all at once.
Union EU player! Pip pip, tally ho, top hats and tea etc etc
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Sorry to be a killjoy... not sure whether this would be a good idea. People did get rather annoyed with the fruit bowl with the whole boombox thing, and I'm not sure how they would react to a load of space marines turning up... anyway, if you are going to do it, do it properly. I'll find some rules of conduct that've been laid down there if you like.
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I think we should steer clear of using powers and pretending they're weapons, I think there's enough options with the AR really - want to be a flamer? then max out flame thrower
Just for info, and to try and give my previous idea more merit, the saving throw on a Terminator (currently tank) is 2+, that of an Interrigator Chaplain (going on the Dark Angels codex) is +3, so they are squishier in combat, however they have a higher damage output - so I still say a blaster fits the bill, or perhaps a scrapper.
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Ok, fair. I just wanted to be a devastor! I'm happy to have a gun and get creative with that and make it into a heavy weapon somehow if I may. That is if my librarian is cast aside!
The thing is though, I only suggested it as a means of not sticking TOO closely to it so that we can be unique, as it were. All chapters had their quirks after all. AIf ours are due to our medium then so be it. But it was just a suggestion and I totally accpet Tufty's point to. I was just trying to be creative!
A Chaplian in arteficia armour (check out my geekyness) which was presented to the most prized warriors and offered a 2+ saving throw would be my look on that
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Sorry to be a killjoy... not sure whether this would be a good idea. People did get rather annoyed with the fruit bowl with the whole boombox thing, and I'm not sure how they would react to a load of space marines turning up... anyway, if you are going to do it, do it properly. I'll find some rules of conduct that've been laid down there if you like.
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But we'ed be RPing. We would do it properly. It would just be interesting. We'ed as them first of course. Unless that takes the fun out of it
Oh and here are some pics of the devastor dude anyway just in case
For the Emperor!
Standing still baby...
Bah, I've been outgeeked. However, that was an upgrade, it didn't come as standard, correct?
And Accel, top post mate.
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Correct, but I fail to see how that matters. The armour would become the chaplains own equipment and all that he would wear. If he was transported wearing it then there is no reason for him not to have it 
Any chance of us having a dreadnaught 
And I agree Accel; we can all be a bit loutish (in this case it was me) and stuff sometimes so I'm glad you found the courage to say that. Good on you matey!
Any Rifles on patrol tonite?
Yup, our glorious leader wants us all about for the base meet, and TF (Caverns of Transcendence) so get online!
Screwing with GG seems boorish to me. Someone could easily screw up their entire meet then say "But I'm RPing an [censored]-hole!".
I'm not saying we'd do that, but the response "But we'd be roleplaying!" can cover a multitude of sins.
See you online...
FOR THE EMPEROR!
�How do I like my MMOs? I like them the way Paragon Studios used to make them.� - a fitting tribute from kiasa.org
EU, Union mostly.
I'd leave GG alone.
Well, we have had to adapt to different dimesional physics.
Tonight there is a chance for one of you to win the right to the be ONLY stor,/elec defender this SG will EVER permit...
There will be a Champion award granted to ONE member at a later date, who will fulfil the Invul/Mace category of a chaplain, and this will be the SECOND unique build available, the others will remain empath chaplains (due to the distortion of the dimensional crossing) The Champion will be given a rank of Commander STRAIGHT AWAY from level 1 when it is decided who will have this roll.
I have been playing the EXCELLENT dawn of war this afternoon so am all Space Marined up, if anyone else wants to get it (15-20 quid) then I propose a little league for us on the net if people are interested... I have coloured and made my Imperial Rifles group on there but you can play eldar/chaos/marines/orks on it....
And lots of colour things, libs are blue and gold in it, commanders have a LOT of gold on them (not sure myself) and APOCRATHYS ARE WHITE IN IT BUT THEY HAVE HELMETS(Harps smile) (White with black helmet?) Scouts have HEAVY armour on the to, tucked in trousers and chunky combat boots, their role should be filled very much in AR/Dev with emphasis on burst, slug, snipe and full auto, they should also have tactics to represent their improved perception.
As to the single tone helmet, what do you guys think, try it out this evening and say what you prefer.
I too like the more bulky shoulder pads so lets have a play around with that, they are more space marinet than the tech one.
Right I'm loggin on now... cya in the base!
Logging in in 2 tics. Any low level Marines looking for teams?
I'm currently working on a text document tying as much of the WH40K law, CoH powersets, and Imperial Rifles rationale together as much as possible. This is more of a newbie/starter document detailing requirements for the different types of marine.
I'll send it on to Doulos for approval as soon as possible, but I think we need to start casting in stone some of the ideas here!
One quick question... I loved playing in the team last night, but why do the standard Battle Brothers have two tone helmets? wouldn't a single colour helmet work better, and use the two tone to differentiate rank?
Formerly @Crimson Archer, now @CA
The Militia - Protecting Paragon City through roleplaying since June 2006!