Mr_Cuddles

I just respecced mr cuddles to take all the war mace aoes and shatter and crowd control now have much bigger cones (crowd control is 180 degrees!)

They also do knockdown instead of knockback... so war mace just became good again.

Ice is fine- sometimes you can survive the most unlikely fights and other times your luck runs out and you die in half a second.

It's basically based on luck which sometimes runs out as you will know. So ice is not nerfed, it's still pretty good, just a bit more random in results.

I currently have a psi proc in chilling embrace so when the patch goes live will it just stop working? Or will you just no longer be able to ADD a proc to taunt auras?

Shannon - I was just bored at work and was wondering about sets so thought I'd see what people thought on forums.

and PRAF - I have no problems holding aggro between chilling embrace, combustion and energy absorption and taunt. Also, I prefer a recharge and range in taunt..... and even if I did exemp, I still won't be doing much single target attacking so don't need or want any more single target attacks

Those IO set enchancements are pretty achieveable on my limited budget so thanks for that.

If you feel like it, feel free to make a dream build. I doubt I will ever be able to afford purple sets but it would be cool to see what you could achieve with your ideal slotting, regardless of whether or not individual powers end up being a bit less effective.

so why was it hardcore hide and seek then?

I am very happy with my build - currently level 40 and teaming regularly with a spines/regen scrapper and a trick arrow defender which as far as I am concerned is perfect for herding/aoe goodness.

Apart from the global defense buff from steadfast unique, I am not sure how to slot IO sets. Everything I try on the hero planner ends up making my powers less effective, and any defense buffs I can get from sets seem to be positional defense instead of typed defense which is what Ice uses so can't see a good way to boost my defense through sets, especially because when using sets, the power often ends up LESS effective than it was when using purely IO's

This is a pve, aoe heavy build. Any advice on sets gratefully received.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.30
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Meltor: Level 50 Mutation Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Armor -- DefBuff-I:40(A), DefBuff-I:40(3), DefBuff-I:40(3)
Level 1: Scorch -- Acc-I:40(A)
Level 2: Chilling Embrace -- EndRdx-I:40(A), Taunt-I:40(5), Taunt-I:40(15), Zinger-Dam%:39(40)
Level 4: Combustion -- Acc-I:40(A), Acc-I:40(5), Dmg-I:40(7), Dmg-I:40(7), Dmg-I:40(9), RechRdx-I:40(9)
Level 6: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I:40(A)
Level 8: Hoarfrost -- Heal-I:40(A), Heal-I:40(11), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:40(11), RechRdx-I:40(17), RechRdx-I:40(36), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(36)
Level 10: Swift -- Flight-I:40(A)
Level 12: Taunt -- RechRdx-I:40(A), Taunt-I:40(13), Taunt-I:40(13), Range-I:40(15)
Level 14: Health -- Heal-I:40(A)
Level 16: Air Superiority -- Acc-I:40(A), Acc-I:40(17), RechRdx-I:40(43)
Level 18: Glacial Armor -- DefBuff-I:40(A), DefBuff-I:40(19), DefBuff-I:40(19)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:40(A), EndMod-I:40(21), EndMod-I:40(21)
Level 22: Build Up -- RechRdx-I:40(A), RechRdx-I:40(23), RechRdx-I:40(23)
Level 24: Icicles -- Acc-I:40(A), Acc-I:40(25), Dmg-I:40(25), Dmg-I:40(37), Dmg-I:40(37), EndRdx-I:40(37)
Level 26: Energy Absorption -- RechRdx-I:40(A), RechRdx-I:40(27), RechRdx-I:40(27), DefBuff-I:40(34), DefBuff-I:40(36), EndMod-I:40(40)
Level 28: Fire Sword Circle -- Acc-I:40(A), Acc-I:40(29), Dmg-I:40(29), Dmg-I:40(31), Dmg-I:40(31), RechRdx-I:40(31)
Level 30: Fly -- EndRdx-I:40(A), Flight-I:40(33), Flight-I:40(34), Flight-I:40(34)
Level 32: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I:40(A), RechRdx-I:40(33), RechRdx-I:40(33), Heal-I:40(40)
Level 35: Aid Other -- Heal-I:40(A)
Level 38: Aid Self -- Heal-I:40(A), Heal-I:40(39), IntRdx-I:40(39), IntRdx-I:40(39), RechRdx-I:40(42), RechRdx-I:40(42)
Level 41: Char -- Acc-I:40(A), Acc-I:40(42), Hold-I:40(43), Hold-I:40(43), RechRdx-I:40(45), RechRdx-I:40(45)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Acc-I:40(A), Acc-I:40(45), Dmg-I:40(46), Dmg-I:40(46), Dmg-I:40(46), EndRdx-I:40(50)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Acc-I:40(A), Acc-I:40(48), Dmg-I:40(48), Dmg-I:40(48), RechRdx-I:40(50), RechRdx-I:40(50)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I:40(A)

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i used to get grumpy if im wasnt allowed to herd but these days i just do my best to keep em all taunted and hope for the best

it was a while ago.

i guess everyone is pretty much cookie cutter by now... another reason to hate pvp

mostly flying through the air or trying to get up again

oh i have air superiority too by the way for added knockdown

the builder is buggy some of those encs got messed up.

i hardly use taunt but when i do i want it to stick.... can keep aggro tight if the team gives me a few seconds.

I use fly a lot in combat cos it feels cool

and i want group fly for a laugh (doubt ill get to that high a level anyway) - dont feel i need hasten when the entire mobs will be dead after build up and two aoes (plus damage from others)

i hate pvp with a passion yet in the brief hour or so I have spent in warburg with mr cuddles I managed to kill several villains, and a few heroes by chaining knockup, knockback, and clobber.

i think it actually does have a bit of an edge in terms of single target damage and soft control, not as good as energy melee but certainly can hold it's own on a single target.

I dont know why you are so bitter about it really... mr cuddles is still my favorite character

ice/fire is great fun and theres 3 possible builds post in a thread just below this one

icicles is well worth 6 slotting it produces great damage over time

i slot mine 2 acc / 3 dam / 1 end red

why are you getting so angry about this hammerfall?

I've got a lvl 50 mace tank and it's not the best but the disorients really help and the best thing is, it's pretty rare.

i dont have any real problems with it... the disorients/knockups, etcs help in survival.. not as much as em or ice sure but it still holds its own

it't not always about having the most effective min/maxed build...

war mace is fairly decent in my opinion, unless all you care about is being a cookie cutter MAXIMUM UBER build in which case, why the hell did you level a mace tank to 50

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Jumping with def enhances is very slight, however, i think that that it is more worth it than slotting Super Jump with another jump, as the 1% or whatever it is from each SO might just one time save me from dying

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i agree totally

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does slotting Hibernate with heal SOs increase the heal rate by a decent amount?

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yea it does

heres mine... currently level 29

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: meltor
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Fiery Melee
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01) --&gt; Frozen Armor==&gt; DefBuf(1) EndRdx(3) DefBuf(3)Slow(7)
01) --&gt; Scorch==&gt; Acc(1)
02) --&gt; Chilling Embrace==&gt; EndRdx(2) Taunt(5) Taunt(5) Taunt(7)Slow(9)
04) --&gt; Hoarfrost==&gt; Rechg(4) Rechg(9) Rechg(11) Heal(11) Heal(13) Heal(13)
06) --&gt; Wet Ice==&gt; EndRdx(6)
08) --&gt; Air Superiority==&gt; Acc(8) Acc(15) Rechg(50)
10) --&gt; Combustion==&gt; Acc(10) Acc(15) Dmg(17) Dmg(17) Dmg(19) EndRdx(19)
12) --&gt; Swift==&gt; Run(12)
14) --&gt; Fly==&gt; EndRdx(14) EndRdx(21) Fly(21) Fly(23)
16) --&gt; Health==&gt; Heal(16)
18) --&gt; Glacial Armor==&gt; DefBuf(18) DefBuf(23) DefBuf(25)
20) --&gt; Stamina==&gt; EndMod(20) EndMod(25) EndMod(27)
22) --&gt; Icicles==&gt; Acc(22) Acc(27) Dmg(29) Dmg(29) Dmg(31) DefBuf(31)
24) --&gt; Taunt==&gt; Taunt(24) Taunt(50) Taunt(50)
26) --&gt; Energy Absorbtion==&gt; Rechg(26) Rechg(31) Rechg(33) DefBuf(33) DefBuf(33) EndMod(43)
28) --&gt; Fire Sword Circle==&gt; Acc(28) Acc(34) Dmg(34) Dmg(34) Dmg(36) EndRdx(36)
30) --&gt; Build Up==&gt; Rechg(30) Rechg(36) Rechg(37)
32) --&gt; Hibernate==&gt; Rechg(32) Rechg(37) Rechg(37) Heal(39)
35) --&gt; Incinerate==&gt; Acc(35) Acc(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(40) Dmg(40) EndRdx(40)
38) --&gt; Greater Fire Sword==&gt; Acc(38) Acc(42) Dmg(42)Dmg(42) Dmg(48) EndRdx(43)
41) --&gt; Chilblain==&gt; Acc(41) Acc(43) Immob(46) Immob(46) Immob(48)
44) --&gt; Block of Ice==&gt; Acc(44) Acc(45) Hold(45) Hold(45) Hold(46) EndRdx(48)
47) --&gt; Combat Jumping==&gt; DefBuf(47)
49) --&gt; Group Fly==&gt; EndRdx(49)

easy to solo with, easy to team with as long as theres enough damage available to take them down before they take me down

icicles and the fire aoes mean aggro holding is not a problem and taunt is there for the times you mess up a herd

air superiority is for bosses

chilblain will be for avs so can taunt and hide out of line of sight

i love ice/fire tanks

mace has an ok disorient element which makes it better than it would be otherwise.

you can also chain knockup and knockback indefinitely on a single target which is great on bosses and in pvp.

make up your own mind by giving it a try... im sure you'll like jawbreaker for the animation which is especially fun if you catch a crey tank halfway through total focus.

is it just me who finds maximillion an insufferable, opinionated [censored]?

thanks for that luminos, ill probably take it for sure after reading that

and OVWyx... im not using any of the melee attacks in energy manipulation except power thrust, and that's only when i need to knock a stray baddie back to the tank, or just away from me.

not intersted in blapping at all with this character.

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Repulsion Bubble = Costs alot to keep running, drains about a 1/5 of your bar per 'hit' on an enemy, regardless of knockback or not - definatly more of a 'power if you want to have some fun' over 'power i need for using seriously'. On most builds i would advise against getting it, drains full end within seconds regardless of slotted.


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maybe one to use only when conserve power is ready then?

thanks for the advice everyone.

not a blapper at all - i am a purely long range blaster

FoN's power description says it has mez protection... has this changed in a patch or something?

so pff is definitely a toggle.... i thought it was nerfed because of pvp abuse into 30 seconds of use only

does the personal force field have that "feature" of shutting off after 30 seconds? is it a decent panic button power?

has anyone had any use out of repulsion field or is it a bit of a novelty power?

Is force of nature as much fun as it sounds? is it also useful as a panic button?

so they stay in one place when they fall over? Just like on an ice slick or something?

thats ace, definitely gonna respec

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AoE KU

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psionic tornado does KNOCKUP? seriously? I thought it was the same as tornado from storm summoning which does KNOCKBACK

if that's true then call me mister respec.

Thanks for the replies, although smoke flash looks like a potentially great power which just screams NINJA!, I will probably skip it. Blinding powder however seems like a winner.

I suppose you get the critical hits off the sleeping enemies too?

Thanks again for the replies.