Stalkers are more overpowered than anything else!!
I dont really find AS unfair, more a stalkers ability to go invis so easily. I've had stalkers targetted and followed after they AS someone on my team and watch them go invis even though they arent very far away and i attacked them fairly recently. Even if they make it harder to go invis, i cant see a way around any stalkers who teleport out of trouble.
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^ If a Stalker is attacked it resets our ability to hide.
It didnt seen to take very long to regenerate then. Certainly not long enough to get sufficient attacks in.
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Snipe can 1 shot ATs utilizing defiance (i.e. flying to the top of the screen cloaked, falling and losing most of their life and maxing out the defiance bar then flying up and sniping someone *cough Daedra cough*) I have seen it in action and its very effective .
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i like AS please not nerf it i mean stalkers most of time in organised times are cannon fodder if not well prepared....there are many ways that you can use to counter them and so many powers that are stalker hunterish (force bubbles,hurricane, quicksand and more.And they so much fun when they try kill ya and then you watch them run and vanish....
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It didnt seen to take very long to regenerate then. Certainly not long enough to get sufficient attacks in.
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each attack will reset that timer, so as long as you keep pounding on him he cant hide
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DoTs also count, so if you have one it's the best thing to put on a stalker to stop us hiding (I can't believe I'm giving people tips on killing me...)
Sorry but i dont know what a DoT is (ahem). Slightly OT but is there an accronym list someplace on the site cos its not the 1st time i've been scratching my head.
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DoT is Damage over Time. Damage that ticks by after the intial effect (or in some cases an area effect that ticks over damage while a player is in the area, e.g. caltrops). It is useful in this situation as it stops the stalker from assassin striking and I believe hiding again.
There is/was a guide to acronyms in the player guides somewhere.
Just because all your characters are pants. Don't try and bring our stalkers down to your level.
This game has had enough nerfs so stop moaning.
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Thanks wreck, I'll have another look for that accronym list. Going to try a few things today which means standing around like a donkey waiting to be attacked :P
Problem is its easy to forget exactly what happened in the heat of battle. (did I have full HP? what was the wind down for AS? when was the last time i hit that guy? did my attack hit?)
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Hello the English speakers, i bring you some help from the French Rodeurs (stalkers) ^^
In my humble opinion, stalkers are not overrated.
I see one problem with stalkers; they are frustrating for the heroes because we can choose where, what and when we want to strike. The initiative belongs to us, so we will rather choose the best moments to hit you in the back. And this is frustrating for the heroes because we don't die much, we will rather kill you or fail to kill you but we will almost always be able to escape. Stalkers are kind of coward vultures. But you know this is not easy to kill someone, sometimes you have to wait a lot, I am sometimes following a target for about 15 minutes before killing him (her) because if I am not waiting for an opportunity he will wipe the floor with me. Now, if you really want to feel like a stalker, just take invisibility, and super speed the game is giving you the right tools to be like us.
Oh and if like some players you are entering PvP zones to play like in PvE zones, get ready to face stalkers as you are our favourite targets, remember, we are coward, but only one thing matter, your death.
Finally stalkers can be devastating in 1 Vs 1 or against surprised or and unorganised players, but they are close to worthless against a good pvp group, even a group of stalkers.
But again the stalkers will rather wait for an opportunity.
The one hp left nerf will kill this class; you know the stalkers are not the deadliest class in pvp, the most frustrating but not the deadliest and by far.
If they Nerf Stalkers they should nerf regen scrappers as well as there more of a pian in the bum than stalkers are if you ask me.
After the 3rd attempt in sirens i finally found some people to play with. I dont think AS can be used if you have repel on, could interupt it cos i stood around waiting to be attacked and only got critical hits on me. I'm still sitting on the fence and my PC seemed pretty laggy today to make a judgement on how i recieved hits despite being a good few feet away. Oh well, off to lvl my own stalker :P
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my opinion, read at your own risk. stalkers are not overpowered, icarried out a test with my bro in PVP the other day, we both headed to sirens call and had a duel, it started with me in the water waiting for the tell tale spalshes , saw him used lotus drops but missed and suffered a huge blow, one reconstruction and i was bak, from then we fought like scrappers would. it took a long time, two regens with low damage moves, go figure. in the end i won but this is due to the fact that i am lvl 50 and have mroe slots. stalekrs seem to be balanced as it is, possibly make it so that when a stalekr uses AS the target is always ledft with at least 5%, whether this apllies to them being hit frm full hp or not i dnt know thts for the devs to decide.
well u were warned, just dotn nerf anyone, either buff us or leave us
My only problem with stalkers is that they have made tactics necessary for pretty much anyone who wants to PvP. This I think is bad becasue it means you have to take another power from the leadership pool to have it. I know they can be seen with X,Y,Z... I quite like them as my blaster, tactics and Targetting drone, but I think it is nuts that other builds "need" tactics to stay alive in the zones.
As for a question posed earlier about squishies hiding in the air... fly and hover? avoid being in the water and you avoid being seen.
Finally on the 1 hit kill thing. I have a level 6 stalker and he is dull... I built him for concept and to see what the AT is like, however, with claws I can fire of attacks at a stupid speed, especailly when I get hasten so big attacks should be unleashed pretty fast without, sure the damage isn;t great but after assasins strike it really doesn't need to be.
My own stalker seems to have a huge wind down for every move. Anywho, maybe we need something like spidermans spidersense "spidersense tingling!!!".
It could alert you when "something" happens, like when theres a stalker near you or a team mate, or if you become the new bounty target. Maybe I should put this in a seperate thread.
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If they Nerf Stalkers they should nerf regen scrappers as well as there more of a pian in the bum than stalkers are if you ask me.
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plz dont nerf regen scrappers, they were nerfed enough, The best power in the regen power set now has a [censored] ridiculous recharge on it.
Ninjitsu gives us Danger Sense. Same as Focussed Fighting but a neat blue colour which fits my colour scheme
I find the Ninja Blade/Ninjitsu attacks and defences to be REALLY well put together - not only are they a good concept but in practice they give a good sense of 'realism' - that is I can;t keep going around hiding and ASing and placating without a substantial drop in my END and a lag time between attacks.
At first glance (no pun etc) Stalkers appear to have the upper hand in PvP - but have you tried to attack a gun turret or Rikti drone when hidden? Impossible!
Stalkers soloing in PvP are far more vulnerable than when in a group - beware the Stalker with a Mastermind - we get so much buffing it's ridiculous (esp Dark Miasma).
I have PvP'd as a stalker and I like it - not because it's an easy time but because I can roleplay some, have fun, shake cyber-hands after and all that. Build up some new and interesting backstories etc.
I don;t go in there to insult people, be insulted or play in God Mode either.
And it's up to the individual to choose their power pools. Leadership is useful and it might just mean playing through the game at a slower rate by taking it but, hey, kill all missions for me when soloing take HOURS! So i have 3-slotted Rest with SO Recharges! My attacks aren;t that strong but I can last a fight a bit better and that's how I win.
Anyway, ramble and rant over. Stalkers are not overpowered. Some 'builds' may appear better at certain levels but when that lvl 50 endgame stuff comes in I guarantee we'll all be singin' a different tune.
And, imho, Stalkers are more akin to Blasters. We wait a lot, we alpha, we wait!
Can't believe this thread is still going, but...
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If they Nerf Stalkers they should nerf regen scrappers as well as there more of a pian in the bum than stalkers are if you ask me.
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Out of interest, why are they?
To my knowledge, if a /regen scrapper is able to one-shot someone it's (a) a miracle, (b) well deserved, (c) nothing to do with being a /regen scrapper.
So what makes them such a pain? Keep losing to them?
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No not really get pw3nd by every thing when Im on as Sharp Shot but when Im on as my stalker I genrally do the pw3ning of regeners. The thing that bugs my is that people are complianing about stalkers running away to rehide but no one seems to have a go about regeners running off and 30 secs later coming back at you with full health.
This entire thread is going over the same old stuff just like the PvP is imblanced thread its uter rubbish. It seems to me that people are moaning about being not very good at PvP in this game. This has had enought nerfs to it already and we dont need another one. Yes it not nice being one shotted but it takes a lot to be able to do it and most of the time time my stalker is going after people that have been hit already or people that are in fights. Its what stalkers do like I said no one complians about regeners running off and fully healing them selves so that they can come back at you so why are this many people complaining about stalkers doing what there designed to do. Any way I have had enought of this theard and after this I dont think there is any thing new that I can add to it as its all probarly been siad before by some one else.
My stalker is just level 3 at present. But it seems to me they are rather heavily PvP orientated. Or its just coincidence.
I got into a few scrapes tonight in sirens call with other stalkers and only the lag killed me. In most cases I survied and got away. That said Lodestar is regen and I made use of IH where I could. And retreat tactics are a must.
Doubt I have added anything useful just my experiance so far.
I saw alot of stalker types but on ninjitsu stalkers. How are they in PvE and PvP?
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The thing that bugs my is that people are complianing about stalkers running away to rehide but no one seems to have a go about regeners running off and 30 secs later coming back at you with full health.
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I play both, and don't complain about either. I also don't complain that those rotten Invuls reduce the damage I do to them, or the SRs keep dodging attacks, swines.
I'd have to agree with you about the thread. Like I said, I can't believe it's still going.
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I play both, and don't complain about either. I also don't complain that those rotten Invuls reduce the damage I do to them, or the SRs keep dodging attacks, swines.
I'd have to agree with you about the thread. Like I said, I can't believe it's still going.
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Sorry if you thought I said you where complianing didnt mean it to come across like that but nice to see you got my point.
I'm pretty sure some snipes could almost one shot? I might be wrong but I know they can sometimes in PvE.
And Innego you are being unresonable but your not alone(this isnt generally at you), to nerf AS in the way some wish is to take away a stalkers reason for being and you think they are really gonna kill off an AT they have just created because some cant handle them in PvP - me thinks not. A nerf will come some day its enevitable round here but me doubts AS will be going anywhere.
Folks just gotta THINK how to fight them - just because you gotta rethink your playing style as your out of your comfort zone is no reason for the was some are demonising this AT - I'm not a stalker and it bug the decaying bejesus outta me