Stalkers are more overpowered than anything else!!


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Also tanking-wise, fire tanks have always been the worst, theyre mainly offensive rather than defensive like the other 3 sets.

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hehe someone "needs" to do their homework.


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fire tankers were good at taking and holding aggro, but shieldswise they were lowest afaik, but must admit i dont know the i6 numbers of fire tanks

it even says so when you pick it in the power description


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If u gear up a Stalker PROPERLY u can take down ANYONE in one hit , i stacked 5x Gift of powers and 1shot a Stone tanker ... no joke 2.9k damage , he dropped like a fly. Then i hit a mob for 1300 with golden dragonfly lol.
The still shouldnt be nerfed , they have no where near as much survivability as a scrapper, they go down in 2-3 hits. Unless you gear them properly and know how to play one :P


 

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Unless you gear them properly and know how to play one

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And there-in lies the issue, for Cryptic wish to nerf skill. If you play well, you must be brought down to the level of those who can't. So sayeth the L... Statesman.


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And there-in lies the issue, for Cryptic wish to nerf skill. If you play well, you must be brought down to the level of those who can't. So sayeth the L... Statesman.

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That is the problem with all PvP MMO's.


 

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I fought the first villans ever today in Siren's, but I died before I could even target them. One snook up on me and assassin stroke me then used another attack to finish me off.

Did any dev consider this fair? If so, I wanna know what AT than can beat a Stalkers which will 75% of your life before the duell even starts.

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Well, my Storm/Dark defender manages to take on Stalkers solo pretty easily... Especially with the IR Goggles temp power purchased by the hospital. Storm has good slows, AoE to uncover them, knockbacks to stop em running, good defence, and dark has great accuracy debuffs. Hurricane stops all AStrikes, as they can't touch you. Just today I solo'd a Stalker, and a Corruptor.

The Stalker was Katana/*(not sure, ninjitsu or SR), and the corruptor was Ice/Ice. The corruptor's Ice attacks weren't really damaging much, as Steamy mist has Temp. protection which I have slotted, and I had plenty of breakfrees. I put a snowstorm on the Stalker, and then lay down Freezing Rain. I managed to immob the corruptor (no such luck with the stalker) and take him out with ease. The stalker couldn't get near me, as I had hurricane on. When he did manage to get close, his accuracy was too bad, and he kept getting knocked backk. I put in a tornado, for extra knockbacks, defence debuffs and disorient, I managed to get in two snipes, and then a few attacks later, he was out. However, I did end up with about 10% health....Which is what Tp is for!


 

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I don't have a problem with Ice Tanks as a Stalker, but that may be down to being able to Crane Kick them off their Ice Patch.


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Ice tanks do indeed seem to be the bane of stalkers at the moment

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I don't have a problem with Ice Tanks as a Stalker, but that may be down to being able to Crane Kick them off their Ice Patch.

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If you know what u doing then anything is beatable, I need someone to get them off ice patch for me to do anything, fortunately my wingman has TP foe


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If you know what u doing then anything is beatable, I need someone to get them off ice patch for me to do anything, fortunately my wingman has TP foe

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I think he was refering to a 1-to-1 situation. In this case the Ice tanker would be unnaccessible and therefore unbeatable?

2 ppl will more often than not beat a single opponent - assuming he hangs around for long enough.


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If you know what u doing then anything is beatable, I need someone to get them off ice patch for me to do anything, fortunately my wingman has TP foe

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I think he was refering to a 1-to-1 situation. In this case the Ice tanker would be unnaccessible and therefore unbeatable?

2 ppl will more often than not beat a single opponent - assuming he hangs around for long enough.

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We were arranging duels a few days back between stalkers and one scrapper, both regen. It was agreed that AS wouldnt be used but placate would, which seems fair enough. If anyone's interested the fights went either way with no one really hammering the other, and, as both were regens, they lasted ages.


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If you know what u doing then anything is beatable, I need someone to get them off ice patch for me to do anything, fortunately my wingman has TP foe

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I think he was refering to a 1-to-1 situation. In this case the Ice tanker would be unnaccessible and therefore unbeatable?

2 ppl will more often than not beat a single opponent - assuming he hangs around for long enough.

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every single AT has an opponent they cannot beat barring player mistakes. I cant beat an ice tank solo, my build doesnt allow it but Im happy with that, its not remotely hard to avoid them and besides 1v1 rarely happen in the pvp zones


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We were arranging duels a few days back between stalkers and one scrapper, both regen. It was agreed that AS wouldnt be used but placate would, which seems fair enough. If anyone's interested the fights went either way with no one really hammering the other, and, as both were regens, they lasted ages.

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Not trying to be too critical of the scrapper but even WITH A/S a stalker should struggle to bring down a competent regen scrapper, without it I don't see how he could be beaten.


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[/ QUOTE ] Ice tanks do indeed seem to be the bane of stalkers at the moment

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I don't have a problem with Ice Tanks as a Stalker, but that may be down to being able to Crane Kick them off their Ice Patch.

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if you of course can hit him at once and even still I can imagine CE being a royal pain in the butt. I normally get to the stalkers before they launch the attack.


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Nah a stalker and a scrapper can be surprisingly evenly matched even without as provided the stalkers build is geared in that way. A regen stalker and a regen scrapper can have a nice long fight in those situations, it comes down to burst versus constant damage which often falls on the side of the scrapper but the timing of the use of build up and placate can swing the balance. I've won some, I've lost some but at the end of the day the real problem with regens is they dont and wont die quickly which is the real issue for stalkers. In open play attacking a regen is suicide mostly due to the length of time you will be exposed, attempt it in a fight with other heroes around and you will die fairly quickly.Thats regens through and through though many a Hero has made the mistake of attacking me and thinking I'm a bit squishy only for me to use dull pain and reconstruction at the appropriate times forcing them to flee. But a regen with his skills on cooldown will drop very very quickly,


 

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Regens are open to big hits stalkers give big hits an average regen is meat to a stalker. But a good regen vs a good stalker it could go either way there but there no ice tanks they go down 1 Vs 1 it just takes timing and skill.


 

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That avatar is too hypnotic :/


 

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That avatar is too hypnotic :/

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That avatar is too hypnotic :/

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Listen only to the sound of my voice....you are 5 years old again

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I don't think it was the eyes he was hypnotised by


 

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mustve been the lower eyes


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Does this thread ever end? !


 

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No its like some sort of thing that refusses to die.


 

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So.. it's still alive, even though the original posters are long gone and we're more or less of topic now?


 

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As I remember it from the beta forums it was Hide + Stealth + multiple applications of Grant Invisibility to put you beyond the perception threshold. I also seem to remember that this was being looked into along with the whole 1-shot business.

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Your recollection differs to mine and others. Yes, its more than likely being looked into, but until it gets altered (Which may not be for some time AFAIK) Stalkers have a huge advantage in PvP.

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Well, his recollection is the same as mine, and my recollection is damn good. For the record, I run Hide + Stealth, and while it is more difficult, there are many Heroes who can see me/ detect me in some manner. I find they're generally the more interesting people to PvP against.

FYI, SS + Stealth makes you completely invisible as well, by your definition.


 

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No its like some sort of thing that refusses to die.

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Death defying and gravity defying? Nerf em!