ENERGY MELEE, it would make us all happy :)


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Okay guys, this isnt a thread calling out to the developers or anything, but its a thread looking to gain enough support in this matter so that the developers may consider our desperate need for energy melee

I myself would love NOTHING more in the entire game to be able to create a energy melee scrapper, and im sure im not the only one.

The other 3 melee sets are able to get this set, and according to numerous spreadsheets such as Billz it wouldnt even be a set that outperforms any other and would provide much happiness to all of the scrapper community

I would like to thank the developers for everything they are giving to us through issue 16, and going rouge, along with everything they have given us in the past, i would just simply like them to atleast consider through all this awesome powerset proliferating giving energy melee to scrappers and if the developers feel it is not a good decision to at the moment, i believe we would all appreciate just a simple explanation as to why

LONG LIVE COH!


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Okay


 

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Okay guys, this isnt a thread calling out to the developers or anything, but its a thread looking to gain enough support in this matter so that the developers may consider our desperate need for energy melee

I myself would love NOTHING more in the entire game to be able to create a energy melee scrapper, and im sure im not the only one.

The other 3 melee sets are able to get this set, and according to numerous spreadsheets such as Billz it wouldnt even be a set that outperforms any other and would provide much happiness to all of the scrapper community

I would like to thank the developers for everything they are giving to us through issue 16, and going rouge, along with everything they have given us in the past, i would just simply like them to atleast consider through all this awesome powerset proliferating giving energy melee to scrappers and if the developers feel it is not a good decision to at the moment, i believe we would all appreciate just a simple explanation as to why

LONG LIVE COH!

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I do not even care if we ever get energy melee so I am happy now


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I assumed that was the plan after they gutted the set and turned it into en....er.....gy.......me..................le...... ........

But now you can color it, so it has that, lol.


 

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Yes, I would love to get my hands on Energy Melee as well Just because of the pink pom-poms (I don't want to change their color).

That said, new animation choices would be great too. Much like they plan to do with MA & SS.

Eagle's Claw animation for ET would = WIN!


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I assumed that was the plan after they gutted the set and turned it into en....er.....gy.......me..................le...... ........

But now you can color it, so it has that, lol.

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It is far from gutted, why do you think the developers are hesitant about giving Scrappers energy melee?


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Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

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Base damage of almost 223 for total focus is probably one of the reasons. ET could use the stalker crits to eliminate the self damage instead of doing double damage so that is not really an issue.


 

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I assumed that was the plan after they gutted the set and turned it into en....er.....gy.......me..................le...... ........

But now you can color it, so it has that, lol.

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It is far from gutted, why do you think the developers are hesitant about giving Scrappers energy melee?

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I'll respond after ET is done animating...


 

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I assumed that was the plan after they gutted the set and turned it into en....er.....gy.......me..................le...... ........

But now you can color it, so it has that, lol.

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It is far from gutted, why do you think the developers are hesitant about giving Scrappers energy melee?

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I'll respond after ET is done animating...

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lolz


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I'll respond after ET is done animating...

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Cmon it's only .4 seconds slower than KO Blow. And does 190 base dmg @ 50 vs 148 from KO blow (Brute numbers). Also it recharges faster and costs almost half the endurance.


 

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Based on what we've been told about powerset proliferation, you'll get it eventually.

You should not expect it to be a direct port of the existing versions, simply because of the unconditional higher base damage that Scrappers deal.


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Based on what we've been told about powerset proliferation, you'll get it eventually.

You should not expect it to be a direct port of the existing versions, simply because of the unconditional higher base damage that Scrappers deal.

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THIS. . . But . . .
To the OP . . .

Your basic premise is quite flawed.

They have given us many good things.
Are we happy yet? No. Why would you expect this to be any different?
If we are given Pie? We complain because it isn't cake!
If we are given Cake? We complain because it isn't Pie!

Nope. We know from past experience... This will NOT make us happy!


OK. Carry on!

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Based on what we've been told about powerset proliferation, you'll get it eventually.

You should not expect it to be a direct port of the existing versions, simply because of the unconditional higher base damage that Scrappers deal.

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THIS. . . But . . .
To the OP . . .

Your basic premise is quite flawed.

They have given us many good things.
Are we happy yet? No. Why would you expect this to be any different?
If we are given Pie? We complain because it isn't cake!
If we are given Cake? We complain because it isn't Pie!

Nope. We know from past experience... This will NOT make us happy!


OK. Carry on!

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EM = Cheesecake = pie and cake = everyone is happy!

But really. From a DPS point of view...doesn't that require ALOT of +RCH to obtain such a sustainable output?

I would think alot of defense would have to be sacrificed for such a high DPS chain.

EP -> ET -> EP -> TF -> Repeat /OR/ BS -> ET -> BS -> TF -> Repeat, isn't to much of a difference in DPS (with EP -> ect getting a bit more DPS).

But the recharge needed to get that chain repeatable...:/


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I assumed that was the plan after they gutted the set and turned it into en....er.....gy.......me..................le...... ........

But now you can color it, so it has that, lol.

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It's not that bad.

It's more like BAM, BAM, BAM, ...................BAM, ...................BAM


With teammates often killing your target while you're in ET or TF's animation on said target.

EM is a good set against AVs and pylons while you're solo. Otherwise, it's total crap.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Hold on, gotta finish using Total Focus before I get to Energy Transfer!


 

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They have given us many good things.
Are we happy yet? No. Why would you expect this to be any different?

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Actually, I'm quite happy with the game at the moment and don't really have any specific demands for what sets should be proliferated (and, in fact, have a number of requests for powersets that shouldn't be proliferated). I'd personally prefer them to put a little more emphasis on new content than powersets with interesting playstyle variants, but that's me.


 

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I'd rather use FM over EM


 

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ENERGY MELEE IS FINE

*hugs his Em/Nin Stalker*


 

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I want War Mace, Battle Axe, Energy Melee, Super Strength, Ice Melee, and Stone Melee. I want it all for my Scrapper!


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I'd personally prefer them to put a little more emphasis on new content than powersets with interesting playstyle variants, but that's me.

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I16 has TONS of new content. Suddenly mere MISSIONS are worth running!

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I'd rather use FM over EM

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Yeah. I haven't played Energy Melee, but I did poke at the numbers on a DPS tank thread. (i.e., I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.) It looked like Fiery Melee + stuns + constantly kicking yourself in the nuts. I'm not sure that all those stuns are worth kicking myself in the nuts, but maybe they are.


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I assumed that was the plan after they gutted the set and turned it into en....er.....gy.......me..................le...... ........

But now you can color it, so it has that, lol.

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Yep, asking for it now is: "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."

Would be kinda cool if instead of ET critting for extra dam or no -hp, it should just have a chance to do old animation.


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I still don't see what people are complaining about, it does the most DPS behind claws on scrappers according to bill's chart.


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Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

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They gave me fire melee . . . . . and im still happy and using it

Now elec melee? Oh im just giddy with joy!!! Can keep your pom poms while im buring the bad guys


 

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I still don't see what people are complaining about, it does the most DPS behind claws on scrappers according to bill's chart.

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Assuming you use the chains he used, with common IOs, no hasten, no set bonuses. This doesn't fit any of my characters post level 27.

With my own numbers (doing it on a build per build basis, considering everything), I can't get EM over 200 DPS no matter how much recharge I cram into it, while losing the equivalent of 200-300% regen because of ET -hp. Meanwhile, there's other primaries with better DPS and no negative effect ; they'll also look better (granted, that's subjective, but BS, ET and TF feel really sluggish to me) and animate faster (less overkill on teams). Sometimes they'll have real AoEs, too.

You'd have to play a second account and follow me 24/7 on a buffbot to get me to even try EM.


 

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I still don't see what people are complaining about, it does the most DPS behind claws on scrappers according to bill's chart.

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What EM can do, other sets can do it way better.