ENERGY MELEE, it would make us all happy :)


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I still don't see what people are complaining about, it does the most DPS behind claws on scrappers according to bill's chart.

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Assuming you use the chains he used, with common IOs, no hasten, no set bonuses. This doesn't fit any of my characters post level 27.

With my own numbers (doing it on a build per build basis, considering everything), I can't get EM over 200 DPS no matter how much recharge I cram into it, while losing the equivalent of 200-300% regen because of ET -hp. Meanwhile, there's other primaries with better DPS and no negative effect ; they'll also look better (granted, that's subjective, but BS, ET and TF feel really sluggish to me) and animate faster (less overkill on teams). Sometimes they'll have real AoEs, too.

You'd have to play a second account and follow me 24/7 on a buffbot to get me to even try EM.

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NAILED IT. And playing em on a decent sized team is like sticking needles in your eyes. You might as well take your top two attacks out of your tray for all the good they do you. Pick a target, hit et, wait for animation, teamates kill your target, you take em self damage. They did buff barrage though.


 

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I'll respond after ET is done animating...

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Cmon it's only .4 seconds slower than KO Blow. And does 190 base dmg @ 50 vs 148 from KO blow (Brute numbers). Also it recharges faster and costs almost half the endurance.

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Cmon if you want to compare the sets best two attacks, go on a team and pit ET vs footstomp. And KO blow is still competitive with ET, whirling hands to footstomp, not so much...


 

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I assumed that was the plan after they gutted the set and turned it into en....er.....gy.......me..................le...... ........

But now you can color it, so it has that, lol.

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It's not that bad.

It's more like BAM, BAM, BAM, ...................BAM, ...................BAM


With teammates often killing your target while you're in ET or TF's animation on said target.

EM is a good set against AVs and pylons while you're solo. Otherwise, it's total crap.

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I'd describe it as tink, tink, tink ..............BAM(destroys corpse, hurts yourself)...............BAM

And yeah, its great against av's and pylons, which are 1% of the game, and like you said, crap in most every other situation, which is why I consider it crap.

But that's just my opinion, if people want to disagree that's fine.


 

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I still don't see what people are complaining about, it does the most DPS behind claws on scrappers according to bill's chart.

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Those charts ignore AoE. They ignore mitigation. They're of no use for powerset balancing. They were nothing but a fun little exercise to show myself which set was the best for pylons and AVs.

Nothing more.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Okay guys, this isnt a thread calling out to the developers or anything, but its a thread looking to gain enough support in this matter so that the developers may consider our desperate need for energy melee

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I don't need EM for scrappers, but I DO want Stone Melee.

A lot.

A whole lot.


"I used to make diddly squat, but I've been with the company for 16 years and have had plenty of great raises. Now I just make squat" -- Me

Pediatric brain tumors are the #1 cause of cancer related deaths in children.

 

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I don't need EM for scrappers, but I DO want Stone Melee.

A lot.

A whole lot.

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Everybody wants one thing or another. I want it all!


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Samuel_Tow: Your avatar is... I think I like it

 

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I find the complaints of ET's animation time entertaining when, for years, broadsword had three attacks that animated slower for less damage, which gained it the reputation of bursty.


 

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Logged on my main villain. The EM/FA I started with CoV go live that hit 50 right after they raised the level cap.

This thread reminded me what must be done, so I've got two respecs to use to pull out his IOs and then hit delete.

I finally accept that Castle is not going to change EM or FA to my liking, and quite frankly, he probably shouldn't.

Now I've just got to figure out how to rebuild him.

What are yalls thoughts for Satan?

FM/Dark?
FM/WP? (Probably where I'm going.)

I've already got a FM/SD.

I *could* go DM/SD and change the color of the DM to red/orange when I-16 hits....


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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I'll never touch FA again. It's too damn squishy and I don't like being knocked back by pylons. Apparently they do more KB than 3 of the -4KB IOs can deal with. Pretty much rules out /DA as well.


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I'll never touch FA again. It's too damn squishy and I don't like being knocked back by pylons. Apparently they do more KB than 3 of the -4KB IOs can deal with. Pretty much rules out /DA as well.

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Swarm Missile

Hmm, not very helpful, since I don't know what knockback table Pylons use. I know it has a chance to do greater than MAG 10, since Granite's MAG10 kb protection isn't sufficient w/o Rooted's 10,000% kb res.


 

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DM/WP, both bloody red!


 

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DM/WP, both bloody red!

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That's what I did and plan for.

That's the 2nd level 50 I've deleted, but the first that had all the accolades. gahhh, getting all those again is gonna suck!


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I don't need EM for scrappers, but I DO want Stone Melee.

A lot.

A whole lot.

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Now that would be fun


 

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But. Claws... Shouldn't it be Claws/WP ? (my FM/WP scrapper is very good, my DM/WP Brute is very good, I have to imagine a FM/WP Brute would be superb).

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Claws will get its own brute. New concept. New costume. Louis had to be a puncher of some kind and magic based.

The claws brute will be... something new.


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But. Claws... Shouldn't it be Claws/WP ? (my FM/WP scrapper is very good, my DM/WP Brute is very good, I have to imagine a FM/WP Brute would be superb).

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Claws will get its own brute. New concept. New costume. Louis had to be a puncher of some kind and magic based.

The claws brute will be... something new.

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My guess...BillZ in a skirt...claws/wp. But it's only a guess.


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But. Claws... Shouldn't it be Claws/WP ? (my FM/WP scrapper is very good, my DM/WP Brute is very good, I have to imagine a FM/WP Brute would be superb).

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Claws will get its own brute. New concept. New costume. Louis had to be a puncher of some kind and magic based.

The claws brute will be... something new.

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My guess...BillZ in a skirt...claws/wp. But it's only a guess.

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Her name was Belle Z Bubbette... and she's existed several times.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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But. Claws... Shouldn't it be Claws/WP ? (my FM/WP scrapper is very good, my DM/WP Brute is very good, I have to imagine a FM/WP Brute would be superb).

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Claws will get its own brute. New concept. New costume. Louis had to be a puncher of some kind and magic based.

The claws brute will be... something new.

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My guess...BillZ in a skirt...claws/wp. But it's only a guess.

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Her name was Belle Z Bubbette... and she's existed several times.

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A truly terrifying idea.


Playstation 3 - XBox 360 - Wii - PSP

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Samuel_Tow: Your avatar is... I think I like it

 

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She was hot.


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She was hot.

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Was she Smokin' Hot?

(Actual DM/FA character I have.)

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He tracks of land weren't quite so predominant... but they probably will be.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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I find it fitting for her to be a brute, you can call the fury bar the wrath of a woman scorned bar.


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