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I find the complaints of ET's animation time entertaining when, for years, broadsword had three attacks that animated slower for less damage, which gained it the reputation of bursty.
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Yep, yep, and none of them AoE or anything and all of them the last power in the set and otherwise totally f'n identical, yep! 
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I'll respond after ET is done animating...
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Cmon it's only .4 seconds slower than KO Blow. And does 190 base dmg @ 50 vs 148 from KO blow (Brute numbers). Also it recharges faster and costs almost half the endurance.
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Yeah! ...and pair it with total focus for another 3+ seconds of do nothing animation and kill steal time just like the... other... attacks in SS.... hey wait.... At least whirling hands sucks uber balls vs. footstomp... hey... 
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Yes. EM is slow, but on a solo scrapper, IOed out for max performance. EP -> ET -> EP -> TF -> Repeat should be 200+ DPS.
So for the AV soloer's out there, it might not be to bad. But then, it's an expensive build.
I made a build in MiDS using EM/SR Brutes, so it's doable, if not expensive.
At 100 Fury (I just upped it to 100, not knowing quite where Brute Fury needs to be to equal Scrapper DPS...figured it was between 90 and 100)...that was a 211 or 214 DPS (others may be able to squeak out a little more).
Some of us just want the pink pom-pom glowie fists animations for our characters 
I'll likely settle for ELM/ (made pink) untill I get it.
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I don't have the numbers in front of me, but isn't 90 Fury equivalent to crit damage? Someone with better numbers/memory than me is needed...
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I don't have the numbers in front of me, but isn't 90 Fury equivalent to crit damage? Someone with better numbers/memory than me is needed...
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Going purely off AT mod and no enhancements:
Brute: 41.708
Scrap: 62.562
Brute needs 25% fury or 50% damage buff.
To reach scrapper crit: 200% fury or 400% buff. (Impossible.)
But crits only happen 10% of the time. (What we decided should be used in the calcs I did.)
62.562 + (.1*62.562) = 68.8182
65% fury or 130% dam buff
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Yea baseline is about 2/3 fury will get you to scrapper damage with crits. Assuming normal slotting and no procs or external buffs. That makes the math a bit more difficult.
Hmmm...I should of just taken mids, seen how much FURY was needed to match Scrapper DPS in using the same Dark Melee chain.
Well, let's see at 65% Fury, instead of 100. I would still think that would be pretty nice DPS with Energy Melee.
The problem still being however, that EM takes alot of Recharge to get that attack chain.
You'd likely be better off with a different set.
Still, I'd love to have Pink Pom-Poms of glowiness.
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I myself would love NOTHING more in the entire game to be able to create a energy melee scrapper, and im sure im not the only one.
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You got me there. I'd love to get an EM/ Scrapper too =)
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I'll never touch FA again. It's too damn squishy and I don't like being knocked back by pylons. Apparently they do more KB than 3 of the -4KB IOs can deal with. Pretty much rules out /DA as well.
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I have other problems with the set, but I'm with Bill. One trip with Energy Melee and Fiery Aura is enough for me. 
As for the topic, instead of wanting EM, I'm holding off on Super Strength until I can Footstomp with Scrapper mods!
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I wouldn't be too surprised if stomp gets the reverse treatment of what whirling hands got on the Energy Assault Dom rework... and the Brute power might get another look at that point too.
I'd also be unsurprised if both SS and MA got a little bit of a tweak when they get their extra animations... like Rage being cut down in power a tad...
Random musing: If Rage were 2/3-1/2 as potent as it now is, but were crashless, and if Focus Chi were the same, would that make for a viable modification to both sets?
The cake is a lie! The cake is a lie!
It wouldn't make me that happy...
I dont like my EM/WP brute that much since the nerfs. She really sucks at AoE, and there are better options for single target now, that dont damage yourself.
SS and SM would be very strong for scrappers on the other hand.
But scrappers as a whole are pretty balanced as they are now, much more than Brutes are. I'd rather see new sets being introduced, than porting over slightly overpowered sets that would have to be nerfed on the way
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I would sign right now... for Focus Chi
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I'll respond after ET is done animating...
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Cmon it's only .4 seconds slower than KO Blow. And does 190 base dmg @ 50 vs 148 from KO blow (Brute numbers). Also it recharges faster and costs almost half the endurance.
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Yeah! ...and pair it with total focus for another 3+ seconds of do nothing animation and kill steal time just like the... other... attacks in SS.... hey wait.... At least whirling hands sucks uber balls vs. footstomp... hey...