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Cryptic And Paragon Studios

Catwhoorg

By Catwhoorg,
Posted on: 2009-07-15 06:56 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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Hey ,i'm new to this game so i dont know muce about it ,i know that cryptic made this great game and then sold it to Ncsoft ,then the entire team that made CoH and CoV has moved to Ncsoft and now called Paragon Studios ,is that true?

btw is there info about going rough expansion? ,couldnt find info on the site .

its not realy important to me ,but i like to know everything about something that i love ,if i make you mad so hear this song .

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If you want to know as much as possible about the game you've come to the right place, just don't feed the trolls.

There's an amazing wealth of guides and basic information here on the forums, it's really a shame so few players will ever see any of it.

 

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Hey ,i'm new to this game so i dont know muce about it ,i know that cryptic made this great game and then sold it to Ncsoft ,then the entire team that made CoH and CoV has moved to Ncsoft and now called Paragon Studios ,is that true?

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This is correct.

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btw is there info about going rough expansion? ,couldnt find info on the site .

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The Verve - Lucky Man


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That made your post awesome.

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thanks all ,i didnt know about the wiki site ,it have so muce info about the game .

 

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Rough, that's a new one. Most just go with Rouge.

 

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Going Rough is going to be interesting. I wonder if there will be chaps involved.

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QR

I guess since its rated T they can't have luberication so it would be rough ..

 

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Going Rough is going to be interesting. I wonder if there will be chaps involved.

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*insert joke about how my <significant other of choice> will really like this expansion*


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QR: I was thinking of cowboys. :/

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QR: I thought of "rough," which made me think of dusty prairies and cowboys riding horses. Cowboys with chaps, hats, spurs, etc. In my world, sex is not the first thing I think of all the time. I'm not ashamed of that. And even if it was, I still wouldn't be ashamed.

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OH. Okay, I get it now.

Okay.

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Actually, I was trying to make a brokeback mountain joke at your expense

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Hey ,i'm new to this game so i dont know muce about it ,i know that cryptic made this great game and then sold it to Ncsoft ,then the entire team that made CoH and CoV has moved to Ncsoft and now called Paragon Studios ,is that true?

btw is there info about going rough expansion? ,couldnt find info on the site .

its not realy important to me ,but i like to know everything about something that i love ,if i make you mad so hear this song .

The Verve - Lucky Man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qujfdzLJPyU

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Okay. You got that partly right.

Cryptic and NC Soft made this game jointly. During the time this game was in production, lots of people worked on it, many left the project during production or after Launch of City of Heroes. The game went through a couple Lead Designers, before Jack Emmert, AKA Statesman. (If I remember correctly, there was at least one before him.)

Some time After City of Villains launched, (I want to say 8 months after but I am fuzzy on that.) Cryptic cut the team that worked on CoH\CoV down to about 15 people, not all of whom had been working on the game at launch.

About a year after that cut was made NC Soft bought out Cryptics share of the game. Everyone that was with the City of * games at the time, except Jack Emmert, decided to stay with the game and work with NCSoft, left Cryptic etc.

Shortly after they bought out the game, NC Soft moved the developers from Texas ( Austin I believe, but who knows Im going completely off of memory.) To mountain view, which is in the Bay area, California. The City of * team got their own office in mountain view and started staffing up to get more people and were known for a while as NCNC (NC Nor-Cal) And recently changed their name to Paragon Studios, a sub division of NC Soft, then proceeded to make the game more and more awesome and slowly but surely give the players everything they ever asked for, dreamed of and didn't know they wanted. (More or less.)

And some where in that sordid history were lots of beta tests, lots of Doom crying, a number of new issues and updates and a couple Hero Cons.

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Some minor corrections:

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Cryptic and NC Soft made this game jointly.

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Cryptic made the game, NCSoft was the publisher. NCSoft also provided bandwidth, likely servers, GMs and the forums.

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During the time this game was in production, lots of people worked on it, many left the project during production or after Launch of City of Heroes. The game went through a couple Lead Designers, before Jack Emmert, AKA Statesman. (If I remember correctly, there was at least one before him.)

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The game had just one prior Lead Designer: Rick Dakan, the man that came up with the idea for City of Heroes in the first place, and the one who wrote the bulk of the game's lore. He was lead Designer from 2000 until late 2002, at which time he and Jack switched roles (Lead Designer and Designer), and a month later he was fired and rehired as a contract writer (but called "Lead Writer" by Statesman on the website blog post made about the change). Rick remained a contract writer through Issue 2, and also wrote the original Blue King CoH comic-- the one with Apex and War Witch.


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Shortly after they bought out the game, NC Soft moved the developers from Texas ( Austin I believe, but who knows Im going completely off of memory.) To mountain view, which is in the Bay area, California.


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The developers were moved from Los Gatos CA, to Mountain View CA. Both are in the Bay area.

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And some where in that sordid history were lots of beta tests, lots of Doom crying, a number of new issues and updates and a couple Hero Cons.

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One (very memorable) HeroCon, though there was a previous meet-up that might be considered the first HeroCon in spirit.

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Okay. You got that partly right.

Cryptic and NC Soft made this game jointly. During the time this game was in production, lots of people worked on it, many left the project during production or after Launch of City of Heroes. The game went through a couple Lead Designers, before Jack Emmert, AKA Statesman. (If I remember correctly, there was at least one before him.)

Some time After City of Villains launched, (I want to say 8 months after but I am fuzzy on that.) Cryptic cut the team that worked on CoH\CoV down to about 15 people, not all of whom had been working on the game at launch.

About a year after that cut was made NC Soft bought out Cryptics share of the game. Everyone that was with the City of * games at the time, except Jack Emmert, decided to stay with the game and work with NCSoft, left Cryptic etc.

Shortly after they bought out the game, NC Soft moved the developers from Texas ( Austin I believe, but who knows Im going completely off of memory.) To mountain view, which is in the Bay area, California. The City of * team got their own office in mountain view and started staffing up to get more people and were known for a while as NCNC (NC Nor-Cal) And recently changed their name to Paragon Studios, a sub division of NC Soft, then proceeded to make the game more and more awesome and slowly but surely give the players everything they ever asked for, dreamed of and didn't know they wanted. (More or less.)

And some where in that sordid history were lots of beta tests, lots of Doom crying, a number of new issues and updates and a couple Hero Cons.

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this is an amazing story[and even touching]

cryptic sounds like an unbalanced company ,but from some reason they did an awesome game ,ncsoft was realy great about all this ,and to belive i never liked them befoe...well now i do!

i'll try to convince my friends to not to try champions online.

 

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cryptic sounds like an unbalanced company

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Unbalanced is one way of putting it.

Another way would be, "over-extended."

With the success of City of Heroes (their first MMO [and possibly game at all, don't remember]), Cryptic took on a number of really big projects, the biggest of which was the Marvel Universe Online MMO (MUO) which was going to be made along side Microsoft in the same way CoH was with NCsoft.

A lot of Cryptic's crew was thought (and likely did) get pulled off of CoH and put into working on MUO. This was a favored explanation for why the CoH staff was cut back so much. (Un)Fortunately, Microsoft pulled the plug on MUO after realizing that it would not be the WoW-killer they had expected.

Cryptic was also said to be working on a number of side-projects almost constantly. So between that and the other big ones, it's no surprise that they were stretched pretty thin.

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