AoE Brute - Elec/?


Bookkeeper_Jay

 

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I have a great single target DM/WP brute, but sometimes you want to get on a team and farm something or just generally walk into a pile of foes and have them die.

It looks clear that Elec is the best primary for these purposes, but I'm trying to settle on the secondary....

/Fire /Elec and /Dark are out because I'm coming to prefer def to res
/EA looks good but seems to lack an AoE taunt

/SD seems obvious

But I was wondering whether /Inv might work too. does anyone have an Elec/Inv build? Would be interested to see what can be done with it.

Any thoughts?


 

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With high recharge SS with MU patron does better than Elec.


 

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With high recharge SS with MU patron does better than Elec.

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This. Plus Elec sucks terribly at ST damage, I've got a 50 elec/stoner.


 

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A) Footstomp is that good?

B) So you'd be thinking SS/SD?

I assume perma-Rage is the target (don't know a lot about SS) - that's an expensive build....


 

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A yes
B not sure, have not made one of those. 3 recharge and a little global and rage is perma

Edit to add, it is not just footstomp but rage that is the kicker. Since it also adds constant bonus damage to your patron AOE attacks it ends up being better total damage. Add shield in there as well and you have some pretty impressive damage potential. Im just not the one to ask how to build a /shield brute.


 

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I vote SS/SD or SS/Fire for AoE carnage.


 

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Elec/Stone

But of course, that's the flavor of the month (and every month) brute farm build, other than ss/wp.


 

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Elec/Stone

But of course, that's the flavor of the month (and every month) brute farm build, other than ss/wp.

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I almost only see SS brutes farming (WP, Fire and Stone). It's way better than elec when you get some recharge.


 

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A yes
B not sure, have not made one of those. 3 recharge and a little global and rage is perma

Edit to add, it is not just footstomp but rage that is the kicker. Since it also adds constant bonus damage to your patron AOE attacks it ends up being better total damage. Add shield in there as well and you have some pretty impressive damage potential. Im just not the one to ask how to build a /shield brute.

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now im intrigued by this and would love to try it. my only two brutes are an lvl50 elec/elec and a lvl50 SS/Inv....

what kind of set bonuses would i have to get to make SS into a AoE machine? right now the elec/ guy is my AoE guy and i use the SS/ guy as a ST smashing machine with only an occasional footstomp

anybody have an idea of what kind of IOs i should get and around what it would cost?/


 

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Elec/Stone

But of course, that's the flavor of the month (and every month) brute farm build, other than ss/wp.

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Who voted Elec/Stone as the FoTM, and why haven't I seen more than one since I've started playing the game?

The FoTM last month was Elec/Shield

This month everyone is busy paying for what they did last month.


 

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Elec/Stone

But of course, that's the flavor of the month (and every month) brute farm build, other than ss/wp.

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/Stone will never be FoTM.


 

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Elec/Stone

But of course, that's the flavor of the month (and every month) brute farm build, other than ss/wp.

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I lol'ed. Hard.


Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

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With high recharge SS with MU patron does better than Elec.

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QFT

I have a 50 Elec/SD/Mu and my buddy has a 50 SS/SD/Mu. Both are IOd out and when we timed ourselves a few times, he always comes up 1-2 mobs ahead of me. Even if they nerf the radius of FS, SS should still be a bit faster.


 

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Check out the brute guides forum. ThugsRus posted a guide to Elec/SD then later posted another guide to SS/SD. His preference has clearly swung to SS.


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Best farm or AOE brute for boss spawns would be SS/SA. IO'd out, they are unstoppable!

Best farm or AOE brute for LT's is either SS/SD or SS/FA. I've never seen a good SS/FA but I have a fully IO'd out SS/SD and he absolutely murders LT's!


 

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As you can see though, while SS/SD/MU may be a tad bit better than ELEC/SD/MU, I find SS to be incredibly boring and hate the rage crash - that is just me. So don't forget to add into the equation which combo you will actually enjoy playing and it will be all good.

Plus, the build also depends on the mobs you are fighting.... For example, I have been farming as a Fire/Psi/Soul dom with a friend that is a SS/Fire/Mu Brute. We run his AE mishes which have mobs that are all fire based. Since he is uber resistant to fire we clear that fast and without probs with max spawns. I just have to make sure he has most agrro or the fire will tear up my Dom (I have mostly lethal and smashing resistance - not fire). So you can see a SS/SD/Mu on this farm would suck in comparison to the SS/Fire/Mu cause of the different fire resistances.

Thus, IMO, build your brute taking into account what mobs you will fight, what build you will enjoy playing, and the IOs that you can use to adjust the second build for different situations.


 

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Best farm or AOE brute for boss spawns would be SS/SA. IO'd out, they are unstoppable!

Best farm or AOE brute for LT's is either SS/SD or SS/FA. I've never seen a good SS/FA but I have a fully IO'd out SS/SD and he absolutely murders LT's!

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You could take your Fire Armor Brute against Fire Blast bosses. Then you'd be equally unstoppable, have more damage tools and not have the penalties of Granite.


 

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Best farm or AOE brute for boss spawns would be SS/SA. IO'd out, they are unstoppable!

Best farm or AOE brute for LT's is either SS/SD or SS/FA. I've never seen a good SS/FA but I have a fully IO'd out SS/SD and he absolutely murders LT's!

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You could take your Fire Armor Brute against Fire Blast bosses. Then you'd be equally unstoppable, have more damage tools and not have the penalties of Granite.

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Smurph knows a thing or two about building optimized characters. I'd have to agree that an IO'd-out SS/Fire on a map of fire-based enemies would be the ultimate farming brute.


Freedom: Blazing Larb, Fiery Fulcrum, Sardan Reborn, Arctic-Frenzy, Wasabi Sam, Mr Smashtastic.

 

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Best farm or AOE brute for boss spawns would be SS/SA. IO'd out, they are unstoppable!

Best farm or AOE brute for LT's is either SS/SD or SS/FA. I've never seen a good SS/FA but I have a fully IO'd out SS/SD and he absolutely murders LT's!

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You could take your Fire Armor Brute against Fire Blast bosses. Then you'd be equally unstoppable, have more damage tools and not have the penalties of Granite.

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True, however AE centric it may be. For a more diverse and unstopable boss killer, I vote stone armor. Granites penalties are easily nullified with some nice IO's.


 

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I vote for SS/FA.


 

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Huntsman....

OOPs wrong forum.


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Have you looked at Fire/Fire/Mako yet? 3 ST attacks, 3 Cones, 2 PBAoE (with Burn), and cone Immobile. Stack Fiery Embrace on top of that: 100% dmg for 30 seconds. That is alot of damage before you even get to the mobs. Cone immobilize them, fire off FE to Breath of Fire-Artic Spray-Bile Spray, then move in to finish them off with Blazing aura and ST attacks.
In case you die, pick up Rise of the Phoniex to keep on laying down the Fiery Doom Got mine to 30 so far...and the orange numbers is like watching an MMs pets go to work...Muha ha ha


 

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I've also looked at the possible of 2 ST(DoT) attacks, 3 Cones, 3PBAoEs (with Burn), and a Cone Immobile. A basic collection of DoT attacks. The only thing I have to worry about is getting ahold of 3 Steadfast -KB IOs and I'm set.


 

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Best farm or AOE brute for boss spawns would be SS/SA. IO'd out, they are unstoppable!

Best farm or AOE brute for LT's is either SS/SD or SS/FA. I've never seen a good SS/FA but I have a fully IO'd out SS/SD and he absolutely murders LT's!

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You could take your Fire Armor Brute against Fire Blast bosses. Then you'd be equally unstoppable, have more damage tools and not have the penalties of Granite.

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Or ElA and electrical based custom enemies ?

ElM/invul and fight freaks (weak to energy, mainly S/L damage) is also plausible.


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well
Elec/SD is amazing fun, teleporting around for 2 superior damage attacks is untold amounts of fun.

But I don't play brutes for any reason other than that