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I remember a certain dark defenderr player sending me a tell about reporting me for copyright violation because I made a toon named HALO.

My toon didn't have anything to do with the halo game. My toon's name was Halo, her secret ID was Angela Winger. She was an angelic-themed character. I've never even played the Halo game. I couldn't tell ya the first thing about it...other than I am pretty sure it was a FPS.

So I deleted the toon, but I've NEVER, EVER forgotten that player did that to me, nor have I forgiven them. Forever, in my book, they are jerks. That character was originally a champions character I made back in 1989, way before the Halo game came out.

I might re-make the toon some day...but, heck, it wasn't all that great a champions character to begin with.

But as a rule, I NEVER, EVER report ANYONE for potential copyright infringement. Why? Because it doesn't give me xp or insp or IOs or influence. I have better things to do in-game than inspecting other players toons. I'm not a rat, I don't rat out people.

So, if you have had a toon generiched...believe me...it was NOT me that turned you in...I'm not a rat!

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Why did you delete it? you weren;t breaking rules.


 

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So, you've resorted to trolling someone?


 

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GMs CAN'T find name violations.
GMs are NEVER in game.
It is impossible for GMs to perform this game saving service.

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He never said or even IMPLIED any of those things. That's an impressive pile of straw men you're making there.


 

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Players are dreaming if you think that your petitions are "saving" us from a lawsuit that will shut down the game.

NCSoft has to demonstrate that NCSoft is taking the correct action. Nothing more, nothing less. YOU are not NCSoft, your petitions are not helping anything other than making you feel "part of the team".

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And too many violations left unchecked will undermine that "proof" severely. Their choices are to hire more people than they can reasonably afford to actively and constantly police for names or ask us to help them out.

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How many is "too many"?
Who is currently looking for this "proof"?

How big of a staff do you even imagine this would take?
One person could cruise the traffic zones of the servers and catch a very high percentage of violations if that is all they were actively doing.
I'm fascinated that you imagine your policing is integral to propping up this proof.

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Yeah, right. One person could patrol all of the zones for two sides (Heroes and Villains) and all 11 servers (24 hours a day) and expect to see every single player online standing in plain sight in those zones. Yeah, they would need a lot more people to police names like that, buddy.

You just keep going on like you have. You warn the player of their fault and leave them to continue playing their copyright infringing character. Someone else will come along and report them to the GMs, as we were asked to nicely by the devs.

We can't expect them to have GMs patrolling the game constantly. No other MMO does that. Not one.


 

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Somehow I doubt anyone read my post and thought to themselves, "Now there's a new rule, I wonder how it got buried pages deep in a player's discussion?"

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No, but we have been laughing at you.

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I live to entertain.


 

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GMs CAN'T find name violations.
GMs are NEVER in game.
It is impossible for GMs to perform this game saving service.

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He never said or even IMPLIED any of those things. That's an impressive pile of straw men you're making there.

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And how will a GM notice the offender unless players petition them?

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It's not like GMs just roam around the game all day and all night, on every server, looking for violations.

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Their choices are to hire more people than they can reasonably afford to actively and constantly police for names or ask us to help them out.

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I remember a certain dark defenderr player sending me a tell about reporting me for copyright violation because I made a toon named HALO.

My toon didn't have anything to do with the halo game. My toon's name was Halo, her secret ID was Angela Winger. She was an angelic-themed character. I've never even played the Halo game. I couldn't tell ya the first thing about it...other than I am pretty sure it was a FPS.

So I deleted the toon, but I've NEVER, EVER forgotten that player did that to me, nor have I forgiven them. Forever, in my book, they are jerks. That character was originally a champions character I made back in 1989, way before the Halo game came out.

I might re-make the toon some day...but, heck, it wasn't all that great a champions character to begin with.

But as a rule, I NEVER, EVER report ANYONE for potential copyright infringement. Why? Because it doesn't give me xp or insp or IOs or influence. I have better things to do in-game than inspecting other players toons. I'm not a rat, I don't rat out people.

So, if you have had a toon generiched...believe me...it was NOT me that turned you in...I'm not a rat!

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Why did you delete it? you weren;t breaking rules.

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Seriously. Poor guy got scared into deleting his character.


Issue 23: All your base are belong to us?

 

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Yeah, right. One person could patrol all of the zones for two sides (Heroes and Villains) and all 11 servers and expect to see every single player online standing in plain sight in those zones. Yeah, they would need a lot more people to police names like that, buddy.


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One person could patrol them, sure. I don't know why you expect or want to see every single player online standing in plain sight in those zones. We don't even vaguely expect that kind of coverage in the real world with real property that can be damaged and real lives that can be lost.


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You just keep going on like you have. You warn the player of their fault and leave them to continue playing their copyright infringing character.

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Thanks buddy, that was my plan, glad you're ok with that.


 

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I remember a certain dark defenderr player sending me a tell about reporting me for copyright violation because I made a toon named HALO.

My toon didn't have anything to do with the halo game. My toon's name was Halo, her secret ID was Angela Winger. She was an angelic-themed character. I've never even played the Halo game. I couldn't tell ya the first thing about it...other than I am pretty sure it was a FPS.

So I deleted the toon, but I've NEVER, EVER forgotten that player did that to me, nor have I forgiven them. Forever, in my book, they are jerks. That character was originally a champions character I made back in 1989, way before the Halo game came out.

I might re-make the toon some day...but, heck, it wasn't all that great a champions character to begin with.

But as a rule, I NEVER, EVER report ANYONE for potential copyright infringement. Why? Because it doesn't give me xp or insp or IOs or influence. I have better things to do in-game than inspecting other players toons. I'm not a rat, I don't rat out people.

So, if you have had a toon generiched...believe me...it was NOT me that turned you in...I'm not a rat!

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Why did you delete it? you weren;t breaking rules.

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Seriously. Poor guy got scared into deleting his character.

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That Defender though, he was protecting the game, even defending it.
He should get a badge.


 

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Yeah, right. One person could patrol all of the zones for two sides (Heroes and Villains) and all 11 servers and expect to see every single player online standing in plain sight in those zones. Yeah, they would need a lot more people to police names like that, buddy.


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One person could patrol them, sure. I don't know why you expect or want to see every single player online standing in plain sight in those zones. We don't even vaguely expect that kind of coverage in the real world with real property that can be damaged and real lives that can be lost.

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How can you possibly think that is even in the realm of possibility? Did you not read carefully enough?

You're saying that a single person can be online on every single server on both sides of the game patrolling every single zone constantly 24 hours a day? Sorry, but I don't think you belong in Personnel Management. You would work that one person to death in a week.

And GMs don't play the game, pal. They don't go into missions with players and hang out with them. In order to see name violations they would need every single player character out in the open for them to see. They can't see you if you're in a mission or off in a cave entrance somewhere hidden out of sight in Nerva or Dark Astoria.


 

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You just keep going on like you have. You warn the player of their fault and leave them to continue playing their copyright infringing character.

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Only a federal court has the authority to determine whether a character is a copyright infringement under federal law.

The standard in this game, since GMs and players aren't lawyers and don't know jack about intellectual property law (but think they do), is copyright no-nos. Is a name too similar to something whose publisher might sue? Is a costume too similar to something whose publisher might sue? Then it's a copyright no-no.

For more information on the difference between copyright infringement and copyright no-nos, see Marvel vs NCSoft, where NCSoft's pleadings outline several meritorious defenses to the charges of copyright infringement, even when a few of the exhibits show definite copyright no-nos (fairly accurate Wolverines, Hulks, etc.)


 

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Yeah, right. One person could patrol all of the zones for two sides (Heroes and Villains) and all 11 servers and expect to see every single player online standing in plain sight in those zones. Yeah, they would need a lot more people to police names like that, buddy.


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One person could patrol them, sure. I don't know why you expect or want to see every single player online standing in plain sight in those zones. We don't even vaguely expect that kind of coverage in the real world with real property that can be damaged and real lives that can be lost.

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How can you possibly think that is even in the realm of possibility? Did you not read carefully enough?

You're saying that a single person can be online on every single server on both sides of the game patrolling every single zone constantly 24 hours a day? Sorry, but I don't think you belong in Personnel Management. You would work that one person to death in a week.

And GMs don't play the game, pal. They don't go into missions with players and hang out with them. In order to see name violations they would need every single player character out in the open for them to see. They can't see you if you're in a mission or off in a cave entrance somewhere hidden out of sight in Nerva or Dark Astoria.


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Hey pal, I read carefuly enough, but you don't seem to be thinking clearly enough.
Why do you want someone on every single server in every zone 24 hours a day?
That is not patrolling, that is complete monitoring.

By the way pal, since players can't hide in caves in Astoria for their entire career, GMs woouldn't need to go into those caves looking for them, just PATROL the traffic zones.