I am in complete awe!
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I was doing some IO'ing out of my fire/fire blaster and trying to buy some Posi's Blast pieces for my AoE attacks. I thought to myself, I don't really want to waste the extra time buying salvage, buying recipes and crafting so I'll just buy the enhancement at a moderately higher cost than the parts it takes to make it.
Imagine my surprise when I saw a Posi Blast Acc/Dmg enhancement (forgot the level, somewhere between 30-41) was selling for 10 million influence. 10 MILLION! I priced all the parts to make it, + crafting costs and it only costs in the neighborhood of 4 million to make myself.
My question is this: Are people that lazy or uninformed to actually pay that price? JEEZ...
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Or rich. Don't underestimate having so much it isn't worth their time to do it themselves.
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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
The third option is "They're that rich." There exist people who spend 600 million on a single IO. I don't think there are very MANY but they exist. If you have crafted IO's for sale and you'd have to wait on the recipes, that's a convenience cost. Even if the recipe is available, getting the stuff and going to a base and building it is apparently a convenience cost as well.
Personally, I craft...
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I think it's mostly the laziness of people with so much money they just don't care, and a smaller group of people who don't know.
PS - You just blew someone's niche. =)
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Imagine my surprise when I saw a Posi Blast Acc/Dmg enhancement (forgot the level, somewhere between 30-41) was selling for 10 million influence. 10 MILLION! I priced all the parts to make it, + crafting costs and it only costs in the neighborhood of 4 million to make myself.
My question is this: Are people that lazy or uninformed to actually pay that price? JEEZ...
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A little of both, I think, plus the rich thing that was mentioned. I have, when making such things, put them up for 5 million and had them keep selling at 10 million for 20 or so purchases. A lot of people just see the last sell price and consider that the BUY IT NOW price.
It's pretty much the one seekrit you need to know to market. Patience = money.
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Ah, that's barely a niche. Making twice your money is, like, normal heroside. (I don't know why either.) FOUR times your money, that's a niche.
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I asked this very same question a month ago. Now I'm well on my way to becoming ebil. Welcome to the club. Someone get this guy's membership processed, asap!
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My question is this: Are people that lazy or uninformed to actually pay that price? JEEZ...
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I'd happily pay 10 million to avoid the irritation of 'rolling my own' so to speak.
A lot of us value convenience and playtime over fake money.
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Oh, actually I've been in the ebil club for quite a while. I actually quit the game for a 6 month break and have recently returned. When I quit I gave away 1 billion influence to the first two toons I saw in WW and canceled my account.
The only reason I am noticing the prices now is because my cash toon is only sitting on 800 million or so and I have about 5 toons to IO out to the max minus purples.
The main reason this is all so surprising to me now is because when I IO'ed toons last year, the enhancements would sell for 125% of the recipe/salvage cost...that number seems to be 250%'ish now, at least with this small sample size.
You should have seen them during the height of the "meow" phase. Common IOs were selling at 10x (is that 1000%?).
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Ah, that's barely a niche. Making twice your money is, like, normal heroside. (I don't know why either.) FOUR times your money, that's a niche.
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Oh yeah. My favorite right now is %1500.
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Another thing to remember is alot of people are just holding out till 50 to IO out a character and crafting IOs to fully slot out a lvl 50 can be really time consuming. When I hovered around the bill mark, I fully crafted/IO'd out a lvl 50 and it was nooo fun.
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Another thing to remember is alot of people are just holding out till 50 to IO out a character and crafting IOs to fully slot out a lvl 50 can be really time consuming. When I hovered around the bill mark, I fully crafted/IO'd out a lvl 50 and it was nooo fun.
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You COULD pay extra so it's not so time consuming...
...or maybe you could plan ahead.
You also have to keep in mind the inf vs. time/effort ratio is constantly decreasing as the constant influx of inf is making inf more and more worthless by the second. I don't think the 4 mil inf difference now is actually larger (in real, inflation-adjusted terms) than say 1 mil inf difference a year ago. Inflation is staggering. While not official, I've noticed a steady drop in RMT prices for inf. That is at least a trackable indicator of inflation over time. In 3 months alone, I've seen RMT drop by prices by more than 40%.
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the constant influx of inf is making inf more and more worthless by the second
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Hm. Is the constant influx of items making items more and more worthless by the second? If not what's the difference between that and inf?
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They were scared down in their holes
The forest that once was green
Was colored black by those killing machines
In many cases, the constant influx of inf far outstrips the influx of "stuff." This is especially noticeable with the highly sought items like purple and pvp sets and certain HOs.
It's just how it is. Players (real & RMT) are generating much more inf than the good "stuff" over any given period of time and without significant inf sinks, the inf will just continue to buildup over time, which is partially manifested when you see the RMTs constantly having to drop their prices.
Ironically, IMO I believe that the major inf "sink" in the game is people just hoarding inf for the fun of it or some kind of competition perhaps. That effectively takes inf out of circulation.
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In many cases, the constant influx of inf far outstrips the influx of "stuff." This is especially noticeable with the highly sought items like purple and pvp sets and certain HOs.
It's just how it is. Players (real & RMT) are generating much more inf than the good "stuff" over any given period of time and without significant inf sinks, the inf will just continue to buildup over time, which is partially manifested when you see the RMTs constantly having to drop their prices.
Ironically, IMO I believe that the major inf "sink" in the game is people just hoarding inf for the fun of it or some kind of competition perhaps. That effectively takes inf out of circulation.
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I've noticed there are way more billionaires in game now. I remember when purples first came out, I put a staggering 80million on one and that was near unheard of. Now I just sold that same IO for 300 million last week. Toons have way more inf to burn thru, and purples don't drop in AE. Those farmers we hated in-game no longer supply purples to the masses.
Its just a matter of scale.
I remember reaching the point where I'd pay 2000 for any piece of cheapo salvage which I might pick up for 100, just to save time.
These days I happily pay multiples of 250,000 for generic IOs after levelling up if I dont have any sets in mind.
One day I'll be happily shelling out 10 million for convenience, I'm sure.
I don't know if it's perception catching up, or if there's really more inf out there, or what. The "wouldn't bend over to pick it up on the street" level is now about 100K, for a lot of people- I list generics under 200K and they go for 300K VERY frequently.
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I don't know if it's perception catching up, or if there's really more inf out there, or what. The "wouldn't bend over to pick it up on the street" level is now about 100K, for a lot of people- I list generics under 200K and they go for 300K VERY frequently.
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The following is just my theory:
It's MA.
They get to high levels then pop out to get their enhancements and they have plenty of influence and use the tickets to get something, possibly rare salvage, which they quick sell for 500k-700k each then buy it now on the common IOs they want and just don't care to take the time to wait and price.
That's my theory and I am sticking to it. (Unless a more believeable one is posted or facts showing I am wrong. I am NOT impervious to logic.)
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
All those IO's that sell for less than 10k on the market, I used to delete or vendor, now I check how much they are going for crafted. Sometimes the same IO's recipies going for almost nothing can net millions crafted! I am poor enough that I am not above spending a few minutes to craft and sell an IO
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Grav/Kin lvl 50 Cont, Fire/Enegry lvl 50 Blast
Warshade lvl 50, PB lvl 39, nightwidow lvl 50, crab lvl 42
plant/thorns lvl 50 dom, ice/fire lvl 40 dom, grav/nrg lvl 41 dom
You can never be rich enough to be above making more money.
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When none of your characters can hold any more infamy/influence, place massive bids on items that can never be purchased.
When all of your market slots are taken due to the above, you are too rich to be thinking of making more.
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The screams from the haters, it's got a nice ring to it.
I guess every super hero needs his theme music .."
At that point, you have too few characters
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Then he takes the influ he saves by crafting and destroys it! mua ha ha!
I was doing some IO'ing out of my fire/fire blaster and trying to buy some Posi's Blast pieces for my AoE attacks. I thought to myself, I don't really want to waste the extra time buying salvage, buying recipes and crafting so I'll just buy the enhancement at a moderately higher cost than the parts it takes to make it.
Imagine my surprise when I saw a Posi Blast Acc/Dmg enhancement (forgot the level, somewhere between 30-41) was selling for 10 million influence. 10 MILLION! I priced all the parts to make it, + crafting costs and it only costs in the neighborhood of 4 million to make myself.
My question is this: Are people that lazy or uninformed to actually pay that price? JEEZ...