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What the hell is with this verifying all files BS?

Aggelakis

By Aggelakis,
Posted on: 2009-06-14 20:53 in Player Questions

 

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My client crashes and then I get to sit through 20 minutes of verifying files crap

Seriously what the hell

 

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Shouldn't take 20 minutes. But, there's a decent chance that a crash could cause one or more game files to become corrupted, which means the game won't function properly. The scan is to check for this and repair if needed. It's actually not uncommon for MMOs.



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Or maybe the game crashed because of a file that was corrupted before you started playing. Either way, it's just the game's way of trying to help you get back up and running. If you really hate it that badly, look in the guides thread for the post about how to run the game without running the updater, but be aware that you'll need to run it with the updater whenever there's a patch.

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"C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project "coh"

 

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Or maybe the game crashed because of a file that was corrupted before you started playing. Either way, it's just the game's way of trying to help you get back up and running. If you really hate it that badly, look in the guides thread for the post about how to run the game without running the updater, but be aware that you'll need to run it with the updater whenever there's a patch.

[/ QUOTE ] To save him the trouble... here is an example of a modified shortcut to bypass the updater...

"C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project coh

Notice the shortcut points to CityOfHeroes.exe

The [u]-project coh[u] flag will NOT work on the default CohUpdater.exe shortcut.

Keep in mind you'll still have to verify files the next time the updater runs, and you'll obviously have to run the updater next time there is a patch.

Also keep in mind that like they have been pointing out.. it may be a good idea to let that Verify every so often anyway to prevent corrupted files.

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My client crashes and then I get to sit through 20 minutes of verifying files crap

Seriously what the hell

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On the rare occasion that I have to verify files it takes maybe 60 seconds, so I really doubt you have to wait 20 minutes. Even if it somehow takes 20 minutes(or even 10 minutes) then there is something seriously wrong with your computer.

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depending on the speed and the maintenance condition of your computer and memory, verfying can easily take 8-13 minutes or longer... granted it could be less as well...

what the OP might be talking about though is that the initial timer that pops up might say 20 min... but since it recalcuates on the fly, his actual time might be much less... in any event...

my issue with it is, that its usually nothing and if I want to cancel the damn verify then I should be able to... just cancel and log back in... and if cox is truly broken then I know what to do... shut down and do the verify... forced verify is bs...

 

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My client crashes and then I get to sit through 20 minutes of verifying files crap

Seriously what the hell

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On the rare occasion that I have to verify files it takes maybe 60 seconds, so I really doubt you have to wait 20 minutes. Even if it somehow takes 20 minutes(or even 10 minutes) then there is something seriously wrong with your computer.

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If this is the case then a drive check and defrag is normally all thats needed. Unless theres bad sectors or physical disk damage then that normally fixes these sorts of problems.

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Time for verfiy is very dependent on the PC.

My nearly 5 year old laptop, takes 5 mins or so, as long as I don't try to do anything else.

The desktop takes under 60 seconds.

If the OP really is taking 20 mins, that suggests some system maintenance (maybe even an upgrade) is long overdue.


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About five minutes for me.

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Desktop is maybe 2 minutes. Laptop is around 6.

Of course my laptop has the dreaded Vista Display Driver crash problem (I hate Vista) which usually doesn't require a verification.

If it's been a while since I had a client crash I will usually verify files before I log in. It seems to have cut down my number of crashes lately. I have no idea if the two are related.

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Its a bunch of BS that should be optional when you crash. If they could make it optional as a choice when you start up the updated I wouldnt have it set to always bypass the update. 99.999999999% you never need to verify files after a crash.

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Its a bunch of BS that should be optional when you crash. If they could make it optional as a choice when you start up the updated I wouldnt have it set to always bypass the update. 99.999999999% you never need to verify files after a crash.

[/ QUOTE ] Then we can all replace our shortcuts with the one that I provided above and only use the updater when there is an update. There is your choice.

It seems like this thread is turning into a plea to make the interface simpler...
Suggestion forum is -----> that way.

 

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Its a bunch of BS that should be optional when you crash. If they could make it optional as a choice when you start up the updated I wouldnt have it set to always bypass the update. 99.999999999% you never need to verify files after a crash.

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Ryu - it's a step that can fix some issues, and fixes them automatically when it does (usually :P).

This helps cut down on CS issues.

There is a reason why the direct-skips-the-updater shortcuts are not considered supported by the game. If they offered some easy way to obviously skip it, you WOULD have people suffering repeat crashes, skipping verification, then when support replies to their ticked "Did you let the updater verify the files?" would answer "No".

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"C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project "coh"

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Question: Can I use two -commands at the same time?

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"C:\Documents and Settings\Dustin\Desktop\CohUpdater.exe" -maxinactivefps 5 -project coh

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Is my request possible? It doesn't seem to work right now. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. I'd like to keep "-maxinactivefps 5" and add "-project coh" also. I often crash one of the CoVs that is running when dual boxing on the same computer and have to verify files each time.

 

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Project CoH is a flag applied to the Coh program, not the updater.

So making a shortcut for :


"C:\Documents and Settings\Dustin\Desktop\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project coh -maxinactivefps 5

should work just fine.

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Don't you need quotes around coh to make the -project flag work?

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Don't you need quotes around coh to make the -project flag work?

[/ QUOTE ] No, and I can't think of any reason why it was ever advertised that way, other than it might be good programming practice to quote non-numerical modifiers. It would only really need the quotes if there was a space in the term being used, which is not the case here.

If the modifier was looking for "skip the updater", the quotes would certainly need to be used to prevent it from only reading "skip" (and then possibly give you error messages about "the" and "updater" not being a valid terms). lol

Even multi-argument modifiers like -screen 800 600 don't need quotes, but that's because 800 and 600 are actually separate terms.

 

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Don't you need quotes around coh to make the -project flag work?

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No. If quotes are around anything else then it won't work.

One of mine for example:

"E:\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project coh -maxinactivefps 5 -maxfps 25

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"C:\CoH\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project "coh"

works on my machine. So it DOES work.

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Don't you need quotes around coh to make the -project flag work?

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No. If quotes are around anything else then it won't work.

One of mine for example:

"E:\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project coh -maxinactivefps 5 -maxfps 25

[/ QUOTE ]Please note that

"C:\CoH\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project "coh"

works on my machine. So it DOES work.

[/ QUOTE ] Maybe he meant that none of the OTHER modifiers work if you use the quotes? I have not tried it, so I don't know if that's true or not either.

As a stand-alone modifier, the quoted version certainly does work.
Point is, in this case, quotes are not necessary.

 

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Quotes just... quote things. They override the command shell's normal way of breaking up a line into separate tokens (words). Adding quotes that don't change the tokens, doesn't change the command. If, however, BayBlast meant, "If the original set of quotes are extended around anything else then it won't work", that would be correct. For example:

"E:\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe -project" coh -maxinactivefps 5 -maxfps 25

would try to run a file called "CityOfHeroes.exe -project", which is nonsense. However,

"E:\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" "-project" "coh" "-maxinactivefps" "5" "-maxfps" "25"

should work just fine. There are lots of extra quotes, but they are all useless (unless I am forgetting something about Windows interpreting dash-prefixed options automatically, but I believe that is up to the application).

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