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Difficulty level has no impact on EBs

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EBs will increase in level when you increase difficulty.


 

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The Cancel Mission Option! Use it, love it!

If you are not willing to get help or load in Inspirations, every two days you can cancel a mission for every of your characters and still get reward and be able to move on to the next task.

This does not sound heroic? It`s only in your head. Just imagine that you have beaten the AV and then hit Cancel Mission. It will be our little secret. Oh, and make sure that you set your mission on Invincible before cancelling, you will even get more reward haha


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The Cancel Mission Option! Use it, love it!

If you are not willing to get help or load in Inspirations, every two days you can cancel a mission for every of your characters and still get reward and be able to move on to the next task.

This does not sound heroic? It`s only in your head. Just imagine that you have beaten the AV and then hit Cancel Mission. It will be our little secret. Oh, and make sure that you set your mission on Invincible before cancelling, you will even get more reward haha

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Yes, because it's so much fun to NOT play the game.


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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The Cancel Mission Option! Use it, love it!

If you are not willing to get help or load in Inspirations, every two days you can cancel a mission for every of your characters and still get reward and be able to move on to the next task.

This does not sound heroic? It`s only in your head. Just imagine that you have beaten the AV and then hit Cancel Mission. It will be our little secret. Oh, and make sure that you set your mission on Invincible before cancelling, you will even get more reward haha

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Yes, because it's so much fun to NOT play the game.

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I feel 0 guilt to once in awhile drop a mission i have no intention to complete because i find it too difficult, annoying or boring. YMMV. Point is, YOU have the choice.


I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire

 

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Yeah, I try to drop missions as little as possible because it feels like just giving up. I'm musch more likely to broadcast for help than to drop a mision. Unless it's a low level mission I've done a dozen times, or it's the like the Defeat the Infected mission where the travel time:reward ratio is high.

I'll definitely try the confuse route. Does confuse affect AVs as readily? I'm guessing no based on my experience with Rommy, but maybe his Nictus buddies clear his mind?


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The Cancel Mission Option! Use it, love it!

If you are not willing to get help or load in Inspirations, every two days you can cancel a mission for every of your characters and still get reward and be able to move on to the next task.

This does not sound heroic? It`s only in your head. Just imagine that you have beaten the AV and then hit Cancel Mission. It will be our little secret. Oh, and make sure that you set your mission on Invincible before cancelling, you will even get more reward haha

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Yes, because it's so much fun to NOT play the game.

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I feel 0 guilt to once in awhile drop a mission i have no intention to complete because i find it too difficult, annoying or boring. YMMV. Point is, YOU have the choice.

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This. And sometimes playing at 3AM I'd rather just move on then try to get a team or get frustrated.

It's a game. It's supposed to be fun. Not annoying. If you want to drop a missh that's giving you trouble there is nothing wrong with that.


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Yeah, I try to drop missions as little as possible because it feels like just giving up. I'm musch more likely to broadcast for help than to drop a mision. Unless it's a low level mission I've done a dozen times, or it's the like the Defeat the Infected mission where the travel time:reward ratio is high.

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Mission teleporter ftw - tp across Mercy to run the mission, call it in from the far side of the island, head to the plaque for Lorekeeper, pick up Next Big Thing while you're over there, and then Pocket D to Port Oakes if you don't want to avoid spawns on the way to the ferry.

Alternative is to mission tp to it, then suicide on a nearby spawn and you're back in Fort Darwin for the second arc (starting with "Mop up the stragglers"). It's not like you get debt.


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Yeah, I try to drop missions as little as possible because it feels like just giving up. I'm musch more likely to broadcast for help than to drop a mision. Unless it's a low level mission I've done a dozen times, or it's the like the Defeat the Infected mission where the travel time:reward ratio is high.


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This mish isn't quite so problematic any more thanks to the permatemp powers. Mission Teleporter to the mission, complete, get HUGE arc completion bonus. Self Destruct back to Fort Darwin, level, get Clear Snakes out of Area mission and move on.


New story arcs coming soon (ARC IDs will be aded when I finish the arc):
So, you want to join the Hellions? (level 1-14 Villainous arc)
Sparks & Steel (level 5-20 Heroic arc)
and
So you want to join the Skulls? (level 1-14 Villainous arc)

 

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I'll definitely try the confuse route. Does confuse affect AVs as readily? I'm guessing no based on my experience with Rommy, but maybe his Nictus buddies clear his mind?

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Like everything else with AVs, the purple triangles screw up all forms of Mezz. The only way you'll lock down AVs is with multiple Doms all running domination and focusing on hitting them hard. That said, I have been able to confuse some AVs myself with multiple applications when the purple triangles were down, but it didn't last long (mere seconds). Team up with a plant Dom and you may be able to lock em down, not sure.

Rommie is harder than most AVs and isn't a good model, really.


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Yeah, I try to drop missions as little as possible because it feels like just giving up. I'm musch more likely to broadcast for help than to drop a mision. Unless it's a low level mission I've done a dozen times, or it's the like the Defeat the Infected mission where the travel time:reward ratio is high.

I'll definitely try the confuse route. Does confuse affect AVs as readily? I'm guessing no based on my experience with Rommy, but maybe his Nictus buddies clear his mind?

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You may get Confuse to affect an AV, but due to the PToD it won't happen easily and when it does, it'll last about 5 seconds. Unless you are on a team, whenever you as a Dom see the PToD on an EB/AV and you DONT have Shivans or nukes... you're hosed.

My experiences leveling a Mind Dom are the reason I have the one level 50 Dom, and no more. I have one level 15 Plant Dom who is around because she has a cool costume; she's about 1.5 years old yet still level 15. I like looking at her and she has a cool name.

The PToD mean that I lack incentive to level her.

Doms are really great, except when they're not. Add to this the disinclination of others to make room on [for instance] LRSF runs for the Dominator AT and.... yeah, no incentive.


 

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The Cancel Mission Option! Use it, love it!

If you are not willing to get help or load in Inspirations, every two days you can cancel a mission for every of your characters and still get reward and be able to move on to the next task.

This does not sound heroic? It`s only in your head. Just imagine that you have beaten the AV and then hit Cancel Mission. It will be our little secret. Oh, and make sure that you set your mission on Invincible before cancelling, you will even get more reward haha

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Yes, because it's so much fun to NOT play the game.

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I feel 0 guilt to once in awhile drop a mission i have no intention to complete because i find it too difficult, annoying or boring. YMMV. Point is, YOU have the choice.

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This. And sometimes playing at 3AM I'd rather just move on then try to get a team or get frustrated.

It's a game. It's supposed to be fun. Not annoying. If you want to drop a missh that's giving you trouble there is nothing wrong with that.

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Using it once in a while to get rid of something annoying seems a far cry from "use it, love it" offered as a solution to the OP's original question. I myself use drop mission to get rid of stuff I've outleveled, or missions I absolutely hate (any on the outdoor PTS map... I hate that map with the fury of a thousand suns).

But when someone comes to the forums looking for advice on how to beat EBs with their dom, saying "just drop the mission!" seems unhelpful and even a bit snarky.


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Well some may be a royal PITA while soloing even as EBs. Nosferatu for one, Madame of Mystery is another.

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Currently in my Crab Spider's queue:

Find Johnny (Sonata's) Soul
Defeat Malaise
Defeat Positron

Yeah, fun all around


 

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Yeah, I try to drop missions as little as possible because it feels like just giving up. I'm musch more likely to broadcast for help than to drop a mision. Unless it's a low level mission I've done a dozen times, or it's the like the Defeat the Infected mission where the travel time:reward ratio is high.

I'll definitely try the confuse route. Does confuse affect AVs as readily? I'm guessing no based on my experience with Rommy, but maybe his Nictus buddies clear his mind?

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You may get Confuse to affect an AV, but due to the PToD it won't happen easily and when it does, it'll last about 5 seconds. Unless you are on a team, whenever you as a Dom see the PToD on an EB/AV and you DONT have Shivans or nukes... you're hosed.

My experiences leveling a Mind Dom are the reason I have the one level 50 Dom, and no more. I have one level 15 Plant Dom who is around because she has a cool costume; she's about 1.5 years old yet still level 15. I like looking at her and she has a cool name.

The PToD mean that I lack incentive to level her.

Doms are really great, except when they're not. Add to this the disinclination of others to make room on [for instance] LRSF runs for the Dominator AT and.... yeah, no incentive.

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I personally love doms. They're one of my favorite ATs. Our biggest problem is our lack of DPS but that's going to be fixed in I-15 (squeee!), and yeah we have some trouble with AVs and PToD, but on a team that becomes less of an issue (especially once we have dps going). Two or three doms on a team can help alot with bosses, even AVs, and soft controls usually still work when hard controls won't.

I have heard that multiple doms working together can lock down AVs and keep them locked down (with permadom) and I believe someone had a video of doing just that with some plant dominators posted somewhere about a year back.

I generally run solo or part of a duo, so most of my experience is there, and I think Doms shine in that role. So far I haven't run into anything I can't beat on Ruthless either solo or duo, except Lord Recluse, whom we needed a third friend to join in and make a shivan run first. By far the hardest fight I've ever had.


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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The Cancel Mission Option! Use it, love it!

If you are not willing to get help or load in Inspirations, every two days you can cancel a mission for every of your characters and still get reward and be able to move on to the next task.

This does not sound heroic? It`s only in your head. Just imagine that you have beaten the AV and then hit Cancel Mission. It will be our little secret. Oh, and make sure that you set your mission on Invincible before cancelling, you will even get more reward haha

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Yes, because it's so much fun to NOT play the game.

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I feel 0 guilt to once in awhile drop a mission i have no intention to complete because i find it too difficult, annoying or boring. YMMV. Point is, YOU have the choice.

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This. And sometimes playing at 3AM I'd rather just move on then try to get a team or get frustrated.

It's a game. It's supposed to be fun. Not annoying. If you want to drop a missh that's giving you trouble there is nothing wrong with that.

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Using it once in a while to get rid of something annoying seems a far cry from "use it, love it" offered as a solution to the OP's original question. I myself use drop mission to get rid of stuff I've outleveled, or missions I absolutely hate (any on the outdoor PTS map... I hate that map with the fury of a thousand suns).

But when someone comes to the forums looking for advice on how to beat EBs with their dom, saying "just drop the mission!" seems unhelpful and even a bit snarky.

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Sorry, i did not want to be snarky at all. You really want to solo EBs with a Dom? Use INSPIRATIONS and Temp Powers. It really is that simple. Damage is the key to take out EBs so do damage! If you can't do enough damage to take them out then reread my previous post.


I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire

 

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Finally got back around to that mission, and I beat it without dropping or outlevelling it.

Know what the key to it was? Not temp powers - didn't use any; not accolade powers - didn't even bother toggling them on; not even inspirations, I used four or five blues to build end between domination instances and an occasional yellow, but no purples or oranges. The key was that wonderful little power, Confuse.

Thank you to Groota, and anyone else who clued me in to the fact that EBs don't have high resistance to Confuse. I suffered one defeat right at the start when I tried keeping confuse on Polyphemus without popping domination. The next time, I popped dom, laid a couple layers of confuse on him and then alternated between that and damage to chip away his HP. It got really dicey when I was ambushed by another EB (or maybe boss, I didn't look closely) in the middle of fighting Polyphemus. Fortunately I was able to confuse that guy and somehow keep Poly confused too. Poly took the other guy out and the other guy chipped away at Poly enough that I was able to defeat him without dom, and without him getting in a single hit.

The rest of the mission and the other bosses/EBs in it went much more smoothly using this strategy, so thanks again for the suggestions!


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Confuse tends to be the Achilles' heel of otherwise highly mez resistant enemies. Very handy against certain Arachnos bosses and lieutenants in particular.


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Confuse tends to be the Achilles' heel of otherwise highly mez resistant enemies. Very handy against certain Arachnos bosses and lieutenants in particular.

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QFT.

While playing my first ever dominator - mind/fire - I almost lost all confidence in the AT when I saw how useless my controls were against a Fortunata. I hadn't really used Confuse, up until then