Quick question about Fire Melee..


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I noticed just about every set has an attack with an increased chance to crit. I was thinking about doing a FM/SR scrapper but I noticed that FM didn't have one of these attacks.

Is this the case or is it just not added in the tooltip?

I just started playing blue side and I'm debating between fm/sr or claws/sr.

I was favoring FM because everyone says to stay away from lethal for dmg (and I'm just starting blue so I don't have tons of cash).

I know DM is lightly resisted, but it's too ST for my taste. I'm going to be grouped with a fire/ blaster and I want to be able to keep up with some kind of aoe lol.

We intend to do big groups almost always.

Thanks a lot for any help!


 

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fire is good and has some dot effects and great dps even without an extra critical chance attack. Plus there are always procs.


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You'll do great! Don't let the lack of a high crit attack bug you at all. Fire EXCELS at damage output. You won't miss it at all I don't think.


 

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I have both FM and Claws/SR, and both are fun for different reasons. I like FM for the sheer damage output. I like Claws mainly for Focus and Shockwave, my favorite Scrapper attacks.

As a side note, as neither set offers much mitigation, the early levels will be pretty painful, as /SR is a very late-blooming set. Duoing with a Fire Blaster, your best strategy is to kill stuff fast, or you will have a lot of aggro coming your way. So I would probably recommend FM.


 

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Ever since the mid-20's, my Fire/Fire scrapper is a damage GOD!

I plow into +3 mobs while my teammates just cringe.


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Ever since the mid-20's, my Fire/Fire scrapper is a damage GOD!

I plow into +3 mobs while my teammates just cringe.

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Sounds like every scrapper I've ever played/played with. God I love Scrappers.


 

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Fire scrappers rule. I was gonna make a fire/regen or fire/wp but that would have been way too easy. You have 3 attacks that do two types of dmg and if you take fire armor as a 2ndary, you can get two build up powers. Damage, damage, and more damage. That's what scrappers do.


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I'm trying to decide on FM/Inv or FM/WP or .. something. I have FM/SR. Perhaps FM/SD but it's overly difficult to softcap...


 

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I'm trying to decide on FM/Inv or FM/WP or .. something. I have FM/SR. Perhaps FM/SD but it's overly difficult to softcap...

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It's not hard to Softcap really. What's hard is trying to softcap and get the best DPS attack string for soloing AVs imo. Hard could mean just really expensive btw...


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I'm trying to decide on FM/Inv or FM/WP or .. something. I have FM/SR. Perhaps FM/SD but it's overly difficult to softcap...

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FM/SD was not hard coming up with softcapped build now the cost while lets say that is a different story

I have a FM?SD soft capped with out tough weave which was a little trickier and I made a couple small sacrifices one was the amount of global recharge in my build so my attack chain dps by pure recharge is down yet overall it is still good because with AAO + Assault and the + damage I got from IO's I hit over 40% + damage for 1 target so I have soloed Marauder and Chimera with No inspirations so I was able to take out 2 AV's solo with the less global recharge chain.

Tough +weave makes it a little easier to cap than Manuvers and assault


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I'm trying to decide on FM/Inv or FM/WP or .. something. I have FM/SR. Perhaps FM/SD but it's overly difficult to softcap...

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Don't dismiss /FA. The two shields are easily as good as Regen's Integration and you get the biggest and quickest self-heal in the game with Healing Flames. Not to mention easily softcapped Fire Resist, plus an awesome self-rez.


 

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What the heck is "softcapped Fire Resist"?


 

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I'm trying to decide on FM/Inv or FM/WP or .. something. I have FM/SR. Perhaps FM/SD but it's overly difficult to softcap...

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Don't dismiss /FA. The two shields are easily as good as Regen's Integration and you get the biggest and quickest self-heal in the game with Healing Flames. Not to mention easily softcapped Fire Resist, plus an awesome self-rez.

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I have two /FA scrappers, I want a more durable one (ie: a defense-oriented char, or Invuln&WP that have both defense and resists)


 

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What the heck is "softcapped Fire Resist"?

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It's just like capped fire resistance, but kinder and gentler.

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And more cuddly.


 

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Fire melee has the best secondary effect, extra damage.

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Couldn't agree more!


 

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I'm trying to decide on FM/Inv or FM/WP or .. something. I have FM/SR. Perhaps FM/SD but it's overly difficult to softcap...

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Don't dismiss /FA. The two shields are easily as good as Regen's Integration and you get the biggest and quickest self-heal in the game with Healing Flames. Not to mention easily softcapped Fire Resist, plus an awesome self-rez.

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I'm trying to figure out how to rebuild my softcapped fire/sr with FA, cp & energy torrent.. blerg, not enough powers!


 

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Don't dismiss /FA. The two shields are easily as good as Regen's Integration and you get the biggest and quickest self-heal in the game with Healing Flames. Not to mention easily softcapped Fire Resist, plus an awesome self-rez.

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Technically, Dull Pain is a bigger heal. It obviously has a much longer recharge, but considering it raises your total HPs, you could argue it does more, esp combined w/a high regen, than a quicker recharging heal for overall survivability. Of course, Regen gets DP & Reconstruction, which is almost the equal to HF.

Truth is, FA by itself is rather squishy compared to the other scrapper secondaries. While you can get it quite uber with pools and IOs (when I got my Fire/Fire to 32, I slotted him w/a bunch of Kinetic Combats and Reactive Armors, the Steadfast +def, a few other shinies and he kicked some amazing booty, all w/o running out of end), the same level of IO'ing w/other secondary makes them even more uber, defensively. Of course, FA outputs more damage (tho SD can get even better sometimes), so it's a fair tradeoff.

At least until I get Tenebrious Tentacles on my Fire/Fire, then all bets are off, cuz it's Burn, baby, Burn time!


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My fire/fire is my favorite toon ever in all 5+years I've been playing, and yes, he has double build up + tentacles + burn.


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At least until I get Tenebrious Tentacles on my Fire/Fire, then all bets are off, cuz it's Burn, baby, Burn time!

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Every day that goes by, I'm convinced more and more that I made the right decision by getting Dark to add to my Fire/Fire. I wasn't aware how popular Fire/Fire/Dark was when I hit 41, but looking back on it now, it seems a no-brainer.


 

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My fire/fire is my favorite toon ever in all 5+years I've been playing, and yes, he has double build up + tentacles + burn.

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I agree. My Fire/Fire was the one toon I had the most fun playing, every step of the way from 1 to 50. And I went with Dark also.