Enough is enough.... do something about MA/AE pls
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AkuTenshiiZero,
Posted on: 2009-05-27 14:57 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
There's good and bad things about MA/EA. Some of the player created arcs are really fun and creative. However the majority of the people I run into just want to do a Boss farm over and over again. I keep getting told that they've already gone through everything else so they want something knew, but I fail to see how running the same boss farm from 1-50 is any more exciting than going through the zones. I think MA/EA had and has the potential to be great, it's just being used in ways that weren't intended.
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I am so sick of this entire debacle I honestly wish they would remove MA from the game, just take is all out, strip the badges, I don't care..... just make it gone.
I feel that this is the most serious danger the game has ever been in, due to punitive actions of this and that sort, which have been discussed to death... friends are leaving over the nerfs, let's just roll it back to the way it was and let people try to heal.
The whole thing is a giant negativity-sink and.... and I know they're not going to take it out but I really feel that would be the best outcome. This is going from bad to worse, as in floods of people leaving.
I don't want my MMO to die. And it feels like the MA/related issues are killing it. I'm just very sad
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/signed and underlined. I'm sick and tired of hearing about the whole thing.
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There's good and bad things about MA/EA. Some of the player created arcs are really fun and creative. However the majority of the people I run into just want to do a Boss farm over and over again. I keep getting told that they've already gone through everything else so they want something knew, but I fail to see how running the same boss farm from 1-50 is any more exciting than going through the zones. I think MA/EA had and has the potential to be great, it's just being used in ways that weren't intended.
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For the avg player a MA arc filled with painstakingly hand crafted story is going to be exactly the same as running existing dev created content because most people don't read the story anyway. They just zone in and start killing mobs.
So an all-boss map is actually a different experience from the normal pve game and quite frankly one that actually offers some degree of difficulty compared to the normal minion munching fest. Whether that makes it good enough to play over and over again... well that is up to the individual.
there are better ways to craft challening (in some cases, EXTREMELY challenging) mobs with MA than just setting all spawns to be bosses and calling it a day.
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there are better ways to craft challening (in some cases, EXTREMELY challenging) mobs with MA than just setting all spawns to be bosses and calling it a day.
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I agree with that... in a few points...
Sometimes you just want to exercise better control about what you do when crafting a mission...
On one of my arcs, i am using some 13 or 14 customs, ranging from minions to AVs. They are divided on 5 different groups, so i can control exactly WHEN a certain boss (be it boss, eb or AV) appear (specially if i dont want it to appear on mission 1, when my history needs it only to show on mission 3). If I had to place one minion of every category on each group, that wouldnt be possible, and would spoil what I intended to do.
As always, there is no easy answer...
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there are better ways to craft challening (in some cases, EXTREMELY challenging) mobs with MA than just setting all spawns to be bosses and calling it a day.
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Yes, like all EB 
nah I hear what you are saying and agree. But setting everything to be a boss is very easy to do. For people looking for an experience that is harder than vanila pve, but don't want to spend very much time playing around with MA settings going all-boss is a great choice.
That doesn't mean they can't also run other missions, or won't play around with various settings later.
Of course in the sea of crap that is MA, once you find something you really like it might not be worth searching further for some people.
Like for instance, I love the spicy peanut noodle dish at this one restaurant. I'm sure their other dishes are good too and have been told as much, but I haven't strayed yet. And that is with the assurance that I'd very likely enjoy the other stuff, it only gets worse when you will likely have to wade through heaps of things you don't like to find another enjoyable experience.
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i really would like a serious explanation: why the perma 46 if the devs dont like farms?
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That's not half the farm that the MA was. You can't use perma-46 to get from 1 to 50 in six hours, so it's not that big a "problem".
Don't worry, it will all be fixed when the devs nerf MA rewards, and force mission authors to use cookie cutter spawns so they can't make "exploitative" missions.
I see the problem pretty bad in Freedom. I play other servers and go through things ok, but when I went to Freedom for the 1st time since MA dropped, I was shocked. Not saying there weren't legitimate non farming teams in Atlas and Cap, just saying that's where the big party was at.
Maybe it's because MA is the new thing, maybe not. But the problem, if it is one to folks, seems less so on other servers
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See heres my point! WHY ARE PVPERS EVIL? Pvp is the funnest part of this game! Fighting Frostfire isn't! Destroying ai isnt a challenge. So if a person wants to fight another person in pvp zones, they are evil?
To the OP, I feel you on people not teaming to do anything else. Everyone is doing boss farms or some other cheesy mission and no one wants to run actual story arcs in ae. Thats not cool. But if thats what people want to do ........ ohh well.
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You know I always wondered what would happen if the Devs made the NPC's in the PVP zones worth a lot more XP than the normal NPC and lower there mez attacks. This would obviously have some people try to farm them. Only difference is your in a PVP zone where you will prolly get killed. Thats how you earn your XP 
You know now that I think about it, PVP/Farming at the sametime could be fun!
Then again I can be psychotic! /Sarcasm off
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I don't know Chrome_Family, the idea of raising NPC xp in PvP to attract the farmers sound pretty cool to me, and I occasionally farm and PvP. So if it keeps people from being annoyed in their PvE zones (though I farm only with pals) I'm cool with the idea.
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I don't Chrome_Family, the idea of raising NPC xp in PvP to attract the farmers sound pretty cool to me, and I occasionally farm and PvP. So if it keeps people from being annoyed in their PvE zones (though I farm only with pals) I'm cool with the idea.
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Hey thanks even though I can see this as being ebil lol
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Y'know, I've tried PVP in this game, and I actually find it fun... but the attitude of PVPers have given it a black name. Maybe the exodus of the most outspoken PVPers was a good thing, now the only people left are the ones who actually want to try to have fun in the new environment.
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Y'know, I've tried PVP in this game, and I actually find it fun... but the attitude of PVPers have given it a black name. Maybe the exodus of the most outspoken PVPers was a good thing, now the only people left are the ones who actually want to try to have fun in the new environment.
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The one time I actually tried out a PvP zone those in there at the time were more than happy to rub my nose in that 'black mark' both verbally as well as... well, you know - they beat me up. ;_; So I'll go with the above comment. But I bet it's going to draw some flames too.
Since I don't have any sort of regular team or friends to pllay with, no PvP for me these days, attitudes or not, and I don't feel like I'm missing anything.
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To be honest i was pretty surprised they put a MA building in every zone.
Im not geting into the farm debate but i do at times get eye aches at the spam lol
I wonder why they dont just remove the building from Atlas it solves many of the complaints listed in countless threads.
Leave one in Galaxy so any level can get there.
Seems an easy fix for the spam issue in Atlas.
Then the spam moves to Galaxy (and I rather like Galaxy for it's quietness, tyvm). What next? Remove it from Galaxy? Then it moves to KR.
It's a basic wash-rinse-repeat cycle, where the cure suggested only moves the problem, or at best makes it less visible.
The people in Galaxy at any given moment can be counted on one hand sometimes you must sacrifuce a finger for an arm but one persons quiet time isn't the issue
The tyvm u added just shows me the pettiness of peoples wants here. I wonder if you might have a more beneficial quiet time in bed under your blanky
Plz dont reply to any more of my post tyvm
Attitudes on forums = real life quiet people
So you're saying that the problem going to Galaxy is a solution?
Your attempt at controlling the posting habits of others shows that you're insecure about your own stances and beliefs.
Your personal attacks on other people's character is also worthy of note, as it shows further insecurity about yourself.
Isn't arm chair psychology fun?
Your time has been... appreciated.
No one got the memo? i15 is going to have an MA channel. This would solve most of the farm spam in broadcast.
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No one got the memo? i15 is going to have an MA channel. This would solve most of the farm spam in broadcast.
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I figured that should have been implemented from day one. Not because it solves farming spam, but because an MA channel only makes sense to me. That, and an MA LFT flag. This way one could set that they are looking for an MA team while continuing to do other things (like run MA missions).
No im saying your attitude and sarcasm means your incapable of even having a debate with u attack from the side and then await a response to justify a str8 forward attack
It seems my reply got a response, did you enjoy it?
You play on words with generalities your just a forum troller who's critisizes 90% of everything you read because you can without fear of reprisal here.
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Back to the topic
Since i have to be more detailed. From my personal experience most people building missions go to any other zone other than Atlas.
To work and not be disturbed, Atlas became the focal point from day one, we are creatures of habit after all. So Atlas remains "the" spot to go.
We dont need a MA building in every zone. I understand the reasons for doing it, that is to spread the population out a little but it hasnt worked.
Time to adjust instead of 2 Atlas zones by deleting half the MA buidling they can direct that traffic to the less populated zones.
The RPers and new people can go to Atlas and do what they've always done.
Id remove the buildings from Atlas, Steel and PI
All this does is redirect the AE people from the Mish people no different than having pvp zones and pve zones.. if you want this .. go there.
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No one got the memo? i15 is going to have an MA channel. This would solve most of the farm spam in broadcast.
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LOL 15 seconds after it goes live the MA loons will be whining there is too much spam on the MA channel
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No im saying your attitude and sarcasm means your incapable of even having a debate with u attack from the side and then await a response to justify a str8 forward attack
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Noooo, I made a comment about your suggested idea (removing the AE building from Atlas, thus making farm spam go to Galaxy). That doesn't solve the problem of farm spam, or exploitive farming in the AE. All it does is hide the problem.
Really, I didn't "attack from the side", especially since you find "tyvm" to be an attack. I actually find that amusing. I didn't care for your response in any case, because you spent more time armchair analyzing me then actually discussing your thoughts on the idea.
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"Perma 46" is an exploit of the "no xp" feature in the game.
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