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I'd say it's a fairly recent event, i.e. after his rescue from Praetoria. Statesman himself doesn't seem to express any kind of surprise about the appearance, only Desdemona does. I would assume that she's only just turned up after defecting from the Rogue Isles and States is briefing her on Tyrant and his world. Could be the situation is caused by Maelstrom leaving the blues and joining Tyrant's group, providing them with the info they need to start a large scale attack.
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Hmm, that does indeed make sense. If that's the situation the storyline they're creating certainly could work.
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I did have the thought just then that the Praetorian Nemesis could be ... Emperor Cole.
1) He usurped Tyrant in a secret coup and has been controlling the world ever since.
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Lame!
Besides, it's completely out of character for Nemesis: he never actually *succeeds* at anything. He just says "I meant to do that!" and makes yet another hopelessly convoluted plot that's doomed to single-detail cascade-failure due to its own complexity.
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Umm, have you played the several missions that take place in alternate dimensions where Nemesis has won? He considers himself his own best opponent.
...I forgot what experience means.
is there any other game where devs design / scenarise themselves as semi-gods(rockstars)? this is the only mmo i ever played, im from rps. Just asking.
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is there any other game where devs design / scenarise themselves as semi-gods(rockstars)? this is the only mmo i ever played, im from rps. Just asking.
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Two words: Richard Garriot.
Indeed Richard Garriot.
Many of his games you play a shameless author insertion of Richard Garriot, being told to go on a quest by another author insertion of Richard Garriot and eventually end up with a party full of author insertions of Richard Garriot...
This joke is shameless stolen...
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After the buzz wore off from watching the Going Rogue trailer and now being mired in anticipatory glee, something occurred to me. Statesman and Desdemona are looking at the view screen which is displaying another city full of heroes and villains that "looks like paradise". And that other city happens to be ruled by an evil Statesman. Coincidence or a little jab at the competition?
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Jeez the people here really stretch when lookin to diss good ole' Jack don't ya? Just kill off Statesman and get this whole..."we should PWN Jack thing" over once and for all.
Move one people. Just enjoy playin CoX.
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is there any other game where devs design / scenarise themselves as semi-gods(rockstars)? this is the only mmo i ever played, im from rps. Just asking.
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To be fair, it's the other way around.
The signature characters were initially developed for promotional/gameplay reasons and THEN adopted by the devs.
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The trains run on time.
The slums are covered by holograms to look like luxury housing.
Happiness is mandatory.
If you do not like what the government has planned for you, please check in at one of the many convenient Personnel Reassignment Centers. Look for the smokestacks.
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Wow, unexpected. Nice comparison.
Hail Emperor Cole!
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I did have the thought just then that the Praetorian Nemesis could be ... Emperor Cole.
1) He usurped Tyrant in a secret coup and has been controlling the world ever since.
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Lame!
Besides, it's completely out of character for Nemesis: he never actually *succeeds* at anything. He just says "I meant to do that!" and makes yet another hopelessly convoluted plot that's doomed to single-detail cascade-failure due to its own complexity.
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Umm, have you played the several missions that take place in alternate dimensions where Nemesis has won? He considers himself his own best opponent.
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There's an alternate dimension where everyone on earth is a furry warwolf 
, your point?
An obsession with detail and precission may help in designing automata, but it does not make one a strategic genius. Neither does two hundred years of serial failures waved away with the megalomaniacal claim "I *always* have another plan" or "I wanted to be beaten for a reason!"
Seriously, threatening a nation with poison and declaring yourself Emperor when most of those on your side are piston-instrumentalities? There's no way one can rule without a support base. Nor can you spin such a colossal screw-up and coming onto the radar of all who could stop you as "a clever ruse".
Siphoning money from a criminal underworld and using it to build an army of steam-robots to "take over a city"? Was he just going to put a wall around Paragon and pretend the rest of the world didn't exist and no one would leave?
Starting a war that almost results in genocide and *does* result in formation of an extremely powerful organization that ends up being the very thing that stops his delusions of apotheosis?
One *can* claim that each of those was in some omniscient way deliberate...but you're handwaving.
Everything Nemesis has done suggests a mentality that is intimately comfortable with the precision of fine machinery, but absolutely can't get its thinking around the idea that the rest of the world doesn't function like clock-work. The more involved machinations in an open system get, the less predictable their outcomes become. Nor does recursively adding extra compensators to a plan bring it back to an exact result like a steam-governor; it just adds more complexity and more places for something to go wrong. The very structure of Nemesis' plots dooms them to failure.
The ever-present steam-tech is a metaphor for his inability to overcome his weaknesses. He just can't adapt. He keeps doing the same sort of thing over and over, getting increasingly more refined yet progressively more anachronistic.
Even his name is an irony of self-defeat. "Nemesis" is the greek concept of divine retribution against the sin of "hubris". Hubris is the arrogant belief that one is the equal or superior to the gods and nature. When nemesis occurs, something the arrogant mortal believed was beneath them and under their control goes wrong and brings all plans to ruin. The Prussian Prince is hubristic to a fault, and is his own "nemesis".
Nemesis has been written as a 'golden-age villain' over-the-top clown since the beginning.
The OP: Hilarious!
My take on Praetoria: rather than the various fascist powers of WWII, I'm seeing an analogy to the Roman Empire (not that the two aren't intertwined, in RL history and even more in CoX - the very fasces being a Roman symbol, the 5th Column's actions in Cimemora, what relation that might have to the Coming Storm...)
...where was I? Oh, yes, Praetoria. The name itself is Roman, as is 'Tyrant', and so seems much of his rule - peace and prosperity achieved by dissolving competing interests into the will of the dictator. An alternative to both Paragon's regulated-but-imperfect democracy and Arachnos's social-Darwinian power struggles; ergo, potentially appealing to the dissatisfied among both heroes and villains. If it's much like Rome, then anyone willing to work for the imperial good might well be given the opportunity - thus, defectors like Maelstrom. And the emperor would certainly be able to indulge in his own... peccadilloes... such as Dominatrix. (blegh)
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is there any other game where devs design / scenarise themselves as semi-gods(rockstars)? this is the only mmo i ever played, im from rps. Just asking.
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To be fair, it's the other way around.
The signature characters were initially developed for promotional/gameplay reasons and THEN adopted by the devs.
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Most, yes, but Statesman? No.
Statesman is Emmert's old champions character.
Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
www.repeat-offenders.net
Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
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is there any other game where devs design / scenarise themselves as semi-gods(rockstars)? this is the only mmo i ever played, im from rps. Just asking.
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There is a difference between people and the characters they create. They aren't the same entities.
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
Warning: This poster likes to play Devil's Advocate.
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After the buzz wore off from watching the Going Rogue trailer and now being mired in anticipatory glee, something occurred to me. Statesman and Desdemona are looking at the view screen which is displaying another city full of heroes and villains that "looks like paradise". And that other city happens to be ruled by an evil Statesman. Coincidence or a little jab at the competition?
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Jeez the people here really stretch when lookin to diss good ole' Jack don't ya? Just kill off Statesman and get this whole..."we should PWN Jack thing" over once and for all.
Move one people. Just enjoy playin CoX.
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I have never been, nor am I now, anti-Jack Emmert. In no way do I feel that not hating Jack is some slight against City of Heroes. And heh, I have to agree, it is a funny observation. 
We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
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is there any other game where devs design / scenarise themselves as semi-gods(rockstars)? this is the only mmo i ever played, im from rps. Just asking.
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To be fair, it's the other way around.
The signature characters were initially developed for promotional/gameplay reasons and THEN adopted by the devs.
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Most, yes, but Statesman? No.
Statesman is Emmert's old champions character.
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It must burn him up that he can't put him in CO.
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So, is this the Coming Storm?
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Doesn't look like it... surely they'd be hyping that up like mad.
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Surely they wouldn't be callous enough to ramp up expectations for the ongoing plot then finish it in a paid expansion.
Frankly, I like the idea of having a nice, separate plot. Not everything has to be about the Coming Storm.
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I'd like the Coming Storm to actually arrive.
There's a chance that Maelstrom is tied into the Coming Storm- the name has a certain link to it. Perhaps the Coming Storm is a City of Dual Pistol Blasters. Or a Battalion of Dual Pistol Blasters. :-)
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If Ouroboros is to be believed, the Coming Storm is an invasion of some sort. And though we don't have all the details, it seems that it may have to do with Shivans.
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"This threat... in the near future, I call it the 'coming storm.' Earth will be attacked by it, and will be unable to defend herself due to extenuating circumstances. I plan on changing that. The first step in eliminating this storm is to remove its scouts from a point in your near future. If you would be so kind as to go forward in time and help Mender Lazarus. Once they are defeated, Ouroboros will begin charting the causality wake to determine the outcome upon your time stream."
The "scouts" are Shivans who arrive in a meteor that crashes into Atlas Park.
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Doesn't look like it... surely they'd be hyping that up like mad.
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Surely they wouldn't be callous enough to ramp up expectations for the ongoing plot then finish it in a paid expansion.
Frankly, I like the idea of having a nice, separate plot. Not everything has to be about the Coming Storm.
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I'd like the Coming Storm to actually arrive.
There's a chance that Maelstrom is tied into the Coming Storm- the name has a certain link to it. Perhaps the Coming Storm is a City of Dual Pistol Blasters. Or a Battalion of Dual Pistol Blasters. :-)
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If Ouroboros is to be believed, the Coming Storm is an invasion of some sort. And though we don't have all the details, it seems that it may have to do with Shivans.
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"This threat... in the near future, I call it the 'coming storm.' Earth will be attacked by it, and will be unable to defend herself due to extenuating circumstances. I plan on changing that. The first step in eliminating this storm is to remove its scouts from a point in your near future. If you would be so kind as to go forward in time and help Mender Lazarus. Once they are defeated, Ouroboros will begin charting the causality wake to determine the outcome upon your time stream."
The "scouts" are Shivans who arrive in a meteor that crashes into Atlas Park.
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Extenuating circumstances? ... What, like server outages?
Pilgrim: "Help Mender Lazarus Prevent Server Downtime! Quickly, @Primana! Fly to California and prevent the Network Ops Center from taking the servers down!"
Me: *blink*
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I did have the thought just then that the Praetorian Nemesis could be ... Emperor Cole.
1) He usurped Tyrant in a secret coup and has been controlling the world ever since.
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Lame!
Besides, it's completely out of character for Nemesis: he never actually *succeeds* at anything. He just says "I meant to do that!" and makes yet another hopelessly convoluted plot that's doomed to single-detail cascade-failure due to its own complexity.