PvP after Rouge Predictions?

Mysticraven · 05-14-2009 09:09 PM

So with COH going Rouge announced how do you predict the effect it will have on the PvP community? I for one will take intrest in seeing how many heros and villians roll classes and certain builds, convert them, and pvp with them.

Please respond to any concerns, predictions, how you plan to play. I really want to see how this expanison affects the face of pvp.

Black_Mute · 05-15-2009 12:10 AM

The stalker I just got done talking to in RV said that they will be able to see hero stalkers because they are at the +perception cap. I argued that if the hero stalker has hide, invis, and the stealth IO, then he will be looking a lllooonng time for a hero stalker. Will be interesting to see how that plays out in the expansion.

PaiOeShi · 05-15-2009 12:25 AM

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So with COH going Rouge announced ...

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Spiritchaser · 05-15-2009 05:59 AM

Post rouge, only powersets involving the colors red or pink will be any good in PvP.

Energy Melee/Manipulation/Assault will be getting a buff, all pom pom powers will do quadruple current base stun duration in PvP zones.

Fortitude will now radically increase resistance to debuffs.

Additional changes will be made to Some Psi attacks, proccing random target debuffs

Many other powers will see minor changes, such as a chance to proc random bonus costume slots or granting new face costume options, potentially teleporting a foe to the east of Scarborough, producing generous helpings of creole cooking, some may even have a 1% chance to proc a debuff on a foe's SG base location until it's in Cambodia, sometime in the mid '70s.

The cake is a lie! The cake is a lie!

Bookkeeper_Jay · 05-15-2009 06:32 AM

Prepare to be mindfreaked

No, but, seriously...things are about to get WEIRD. MMs with Tanks, Stalkers with Blasters, Blaster with Brutes, Brutes with Defenders, Controllers with Dominators, Dominators with Tanks, etc.

Spiritchaser · 05-15-2009 07:06 AM

It's going to be MUCH easier to make balanced mini-games.

Capture the flag, for example, might turn out to heavily favor a team with one or two tanks, king of the hill might be good for MMs (or whatever)

If both factions can have them, it's way easier to avoid problems.

The cake is a lie! The cake is a lie!

Rulker · 05-15-2009 07:08 AM

Rogue, not Rouge but I digress

PvP will still suck.

Hallway_Kid_RAGE · 05-15-2009 07:23 AM

CoH: Going Rouge, Sweet Lady Marmalade.

Aliona · 05-15-2009 07:29 AM

My SG is leveling some heroes now getting ready to bring them villain side! Some scrappers, emps and blasters lol
Wait! I need to make an ice/em tank i always liked those!

JImmay · 05-15-2009 07:59 AM

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Prepare to be mindfreaked

No, but, seriously...things are about to get WEIRD. MMs with Tanks, Stalkers with Blasters, Blaster with Brutes, Brutes with Defenders, Controllers with Dominators, Dominators with Tanks, etc.

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you realize you can do that now in the arena right?

Ready_For_War · 05-15-2009 09:11 AM

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Prepare to be mindfreaked

No, but, seriously...things are about to get WEIRD. MMs with Tanks, Stalkers with Blasters, Blaster with Brutes, Brutes with Defenders, Controllers with Dominators, Dominators with Tanks, etc.

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you realize you can do that now in the arena right?

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I was thinking the same thing but I didin't say it.... lol

macskull · 05-15-2009 09:16 AM

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The stalker I just got done talking to in RV said that they will be able to see hero stalkers because they are at the +perception cap. I argued that if the hero stalker has hide, invis, and the stealth IO, then he will be looking a lllooonng time for a hero stalker. Will be interesting to see how that plays out in the expansion.

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Two stealth-capped and percep-capped Stalkers will probably never find each other. A team of Emp + VEAT could wreak havoc on a zone full of Stalkers, though (VEAT perception cap >>>>>> Stalker stealth cap).

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DeviousMe · 05-15-2009 09:17 AM

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Prepare to be mindfreaked

No, but, seriously...things are about to get WEIRD. MMs with Tanks, Stalkers with Blasters, Blaster with Brutes, Brutes with Defenders, Controllers with Dominators, Dominators with Tanks, etc.

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you realize you can do that now in the arena right?

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I was thinking the same thing but I didin't say it.... lol

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Indeed. I found myself quite confused looking at this thread, thinking "so another arena mechanic comes to zone pvp...big deal?"

I guess the primary effect will be more pvpers teaming with ATs from the other side, but that's about it I think.

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EnD_Reitanna · 05-15-2009 10:01 PM

will be same as SHW WB that is all..heh

Absolute Malice · 05-16-2009 07:58 AM

I'm predicting that, for purposes of balance, they might just create 1 new PvP zone where the rogue rules apply. Otherwise, when you walk into any of the 'normal' zones, you'll temporarily be sided with your faction.

It doesn't make much thematic sense, but I can't see the devs letting Blaster/Stalker/Brute chaos happen, with the current condition of PvP.

Necromatic · 05-16-2009 10:32 AM

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I'm predicting that, for purposes of balance, they might just create 1 new PvP zone where the rogue rules apply. Otherwise, when you walk into any of the 'normal' zones, you'll temporarily be sided with your faction.

It doesn't make much thematic sense, but I can't see the devs letting Blaster/Stalker/Brute chaos happen, with the current condition of PvP.

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Pretty much this. Say goodbye to corruptors, defenders, controllers, doms and MMs. Say hello to Tank, blaster, and stalker pvp only.

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Nny_the_mad · 05-16-2009 11:45 AM

bah pvp is already like that no?

OneAboveAll · 05-16-2009 01:26 PM

we'll have to see what exactly the rewards are for staying hero/villain.

EnD_Reitanna · 05-16-2009 02:35 PM

heroes get better stuff-...as always

Necromatic · 05-16-2009 05:51 PM

Well, I'll take my corr into RV now, but I'll be damned if I do if stalker/blaster teams are a reality.

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Galactor · 05-16-2009 06:17 PM

I'm going to roll a stalker and move him heroside for RV. I'm going to go stalker hunting.

I'm also going to roll some doms and move them heroside...I love doms.

I'm going to move my rad/rad defender to the villainside but I won't PvP with him...not on freedom...I'll never pvp redside on freedom. I can't stand the players on that side, on that server.

I'm going to make a MM and move him heroside and play him in RV. And a brute. But no Corrs, I'd rather play a defender.

Virtual_Fighter · 05-16-2009 06:52 PM

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I'm going to move my rad/rad defender to the villainside but I won't PvP with him...not on freedom...I'll never pvp redside on freedom. I can't stand the players on that side, on that server.

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I hear you brother, just think if they ever allowed side-switching...

Oh wait...

macskull · 05-16-2009 08:41 PM

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I'm going to roll a stalker and move him heroside for RV. I'm going to go stalker hunting.

I'm also going to roll some doms and move them heroside...I love doms.

I'm going to move my rad/rad defender to the villainside but I won't PvP with him...not on freedom...I'll never pvp redside on freedom. I can't stand the players on that side, on that server.

I'm going to make a MM and move him heroside and play him in RV. And a brute. But no Corrs, I'd rather play a defender.

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That's too bad, some of the best PvPers I know are Freedom redside. You could really learn a lot by playing with them. It seems you don't care to learn though, based on your attitude toward PvP in general in this forum.

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Ciera · 05-18-2009 07:54 AM

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I'm predicting that, for purposes of balance, they might just create 1 new PvP zone where the rogue rules apply. Otherwise, when you walk into any of the 'normal' zones, you'll temporarily be sided with your faction.

It doesn't make much thematic sense, but I can't see the devs letting Blaster/Stalker/Brute chaos happen, with the current condition of PvP.

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LOL, doubtful as that's more work, creating a whole new zone.

I for one think the rogue factor is going to finally balance PvP gameplay if it's a true cross-over of powers. A Hero Stalker will be unseen by most villians who haven't needed perception up to this point, and they'll pay the price.

Personally I think the Heroside is getting the better deal especially for zones like Sirens Call where they will finally have the ability to deal with the Stalkers/Brutes which have continued to stymie all but teams and Purpled out heroes. Two Fire/SS Brutes going at it! Hero Stalkers wiping out villians in 2-3 hits. Yeah, I believe there is some justice coming down the pipe..

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spasmolytic · 05-18-2009 08:06 AM

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I'm going to roll a stalker and move him heroside for RV. I'm going to go stalker hunting.

I'm also going to roll some doms and move them heroside...I love doms.

I'm going to move my rad/rad defender to the villainside but I won't PvP with him...not on freedom...I'll never pvp redside on freedom. I can't stand the players on that side, on that server.

I'm going to make a MM and move him heroside and play him in RV. And a brute. But no Corrs, I'd rather play a defender.

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HEY YOU'RE THAT RAD I WAS DESTROYING ON MY FIRE/COLD IN RV A FEW WEEKS BACK.